American Le Mans Series Season 2 (COMPLETED)

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When do we qualify?

  • Night of, right before the race

    Votes: 21 51.2%
  • A different night before the race

    Votes: 20 48.8%

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Cars for GT1 and GT2 will strictly be cars that have/are competing in ALMS THIS year.

No more McLaren grinds my gears.....

Seriously tho I dunno, looks like we've just gone in a circle to be honest if it's LMP/GT1/GT2.
 
MitchZ06
No more McLaren grinds my gears.....

Seriously tho I dunno, looks like we've just gone in a circle to be honest if it's LMP/GT1/GT2.

Just like the good 'ole days!
 
When the grid started to dwindle mid season and we scrapped GT1? Yup, good ole days....
 
MitchZ06
When the grid started to dwindle mid season and we scrapped GT1? Yup, good ole days....

Well, I'm giving you guys the choice.
 
Ugh...more spammers....


IMO I say just leave it as is, if it works don't fix it right?

I sent this to gogatrs as a PM but I'll stick it here, it's from a week or two ago.

"Normal Cars
GM Corvette ZR1 - 1221kg - 0/20
Ferrari F458 - 1232kg - 10/40
Ford GT - 1203kg - 0/40
Dodge Viper ACR - 1257kg - 10/40
Lotus Esprit V8 - 1144kg - 0/20
Audi R8 4.2 - 1264kg - 10/40
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4 - 1169kg - 0/20


High Downforce Cars
McLaren F1 - 970kg - 20/65
Nissan R390 - 1180kg - 35/80
Jaguar XJ220 - 1362kg - 20/65


Alright, there's a list of potential cars with their minimum weights and downforce outlined. Now before you go off asking where's this and that let me explain....

I've ditched all the cars over 1300kg (cept the Jag, it's got downforce on its side) as they're just too slow and need too much power to even be halfway competitive. That cut the list a bit down as the M3, Aston and XKR got the flick along with maybe one or two others. I've also nulled the Ruf, why? No downforce and it's going to be the GTC car right? No point having it compete against cars with not only an aero advantage but also a handling and torque advantage, they can have their own class.

I've also added cars not competing in the ALMS but have or currently are competing in other forms of GT racing. Reason? Who makes up the field? The drivers! And being that this is a virtual racing series with road cars standing in for race cars there's no point to stick steadfast to those cars, not to mention the drivers themselves don't want to stick with just those 5 odd cars.....

The high downforce cars are in their own separate list, I know there's more available but I haven't bought them so I don't know about them....I propose these either become the GT1 class otherwise they'll just be balanced against the others.

Now, horsepower should be above the 500hp mark for EVERYTHING. This will allow for faster racing, cars can be brought closer together performance wise and it should result in beginners being able to compete from the get go. Weight also needs to be as low as possible, this will prolong tyre life and also add in the element where some cars will have an advantage over others on certain tracks (minimized where possible) but also make the racing closer as it should avoid those understeering M3's, XKR's and DB9's from being backmarkers.

Let me know what you think, actually think it through first...the aim is to provide for the drivers here not a goal you're trying to set and follow (don't be draconian :p ). This series has proved to be hugely enjoyable from it being relaxed, don't go ruining a good thing by making it so strict. "


Yes the car list is different to the 'Global GT' one (in my interest check thread and a few pages back here) so disregard that bit.
 
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Seen this at my grandmas house last weekend!
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THAT_GUY_2
Seen this at my grandmas house last weekend!

You must have one bad ass grandma.
 
@ Gatrs

One post away to 4000 :D And you already reached it, lol.

@ Mitch

I like it. But there's some things missing, I just can't put it..
 
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@Gators you see who's in front right?
 
THAT_GUY_2
@Gators you see who's in front right?

I assume that's Grandpa?
I'd like to meet your family...
:lol:
 
@ Elite, don't read into the car list, just the theory.
 
I can't see the pics on my iPod :/
 
@ Elite, don't read into the car list, just the theory.

but the theory seems to largely be based of one constant. that constant being that the "general quickness"( if thats what we should call it(ex. compare a ford GT to the Jag)) is the same for each car...

theyre not. I dont think downforce is the correct way to look at it. because i only use dowforce to balance the car at speed or something like that.if it understeers i take aero off the rear.....or put more on the front compared to the rear.

anyway if that even makes sense my point being that in the end your going to have to tweak the cars with a little more Balancing anyways so you migh as welll just use gatrs formula because no matter the formula it requires balancing....

considering that the ford is fast i dont know why it has so little weight....the downforce has little to do wit hthe speed of the ford...i run it on 40 and it jsut made the car understeer....i like it better when its on 20. and thats the least itll do i believe. soo you see the predicament....max aero isnt a good indicator to base everything else off of. because i can urun none on the ford and go faster.....

and putting the ford at the same hp of all the other cars is just suicide....same can be said of the 458
 
Cowboys965
I can't see the pics on my iPod :/

This
Anyways, I'm doing the 4 hrs tomorrow but I don't know what to take, here are my options:
  • Dodge Ram; 543 PP
  • Camaro Z28 RM; 549 PP
  • SLS AMG; 552 PP
  • Mine's BNR34 Skyline; 573 PP
  • Corvette Z06 Pepto Bismo Edition; 569 PP
 
something/one is creeping on this thread lol.

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It's a Mitch!
 
Theres this thing called the AUP blaze, try and stick to it. As far as downforce is concerned it's a case of more is better...sure more power is handy but grip is essential.
 
Now I'm creeping :dopey:
 
Theres this thing called the AUP blaze, try and stick to it. As far as downforce is concerned it's a case of more is better...sure more power is handy but grip is essential.

what did i do thats against the AUP?

also more downforce does not mean better. with these road cars downforce isnt the determing factor. its mechanical grip. ford has the most.regardless of the aero you run on it it is fast as ever. i find it fastest with rear aero on 20 not 40.
 
You obviously haven't read it either Rocko...on the subject of the Ford GT I've gotten my best lap times out of it with max DF.
 
MitchZ06
You obviously haven't read it either Rocko...

I just read it again and I honestly can't find anything Blaze or I am doing wrong.
 
Never said you were doing anything wrong Rocko...it's Blazes lack of proper grammar and punctuation thats against the AUP.
 
Anyways, I'm doing the 4 hrs tomorrow but I don't know what to take, here are my options:

  • Dodge Ram; 543 PP
  • Camaro Z28 RM; 549 PP
  • SLS AMG; 552 PP
  • Mine's BNR34 Skyline; 573 PP
  • Corvette Z06 Pepto Bismo Edition; 569 PP
 
You obviously haven't read it either Rocko...on the subject of the Ford GT I've gotten my best lap times out of it with max DF.

ok that may be true for you.

but the ford understeers so logically cramming all the aero onto the rear will only make it worse...i found that removing the rear downforce is even faster.


Never said you were doing anything wrong Rocko...it's Blazes lack of proper grammar and punctuation thats against the AUP.
Creeping is a word in America.http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creeping and I haven't punctuated anything wrongly.
 
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