An American F1 team?

[mu22stang]

Now it does, but it's no excuse. Read before posting.

 

[VNAF Ace]

I say we rename USGPE to Team America and blast "America, #### Yeah!" at the 1st race of next season to stick it to Bernie Eccelstone.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Regarding USGPE, I already posted that with a link right above your post.

That's funny, 'cause when I posted it, your post had nothing to do with USF1 being renamed USGPE. I find it interesting that the timestamp of your edit says it was dited after I posted ...

 

[Zuel]

Mario or Michael Andetti even Bobby Rahall may be team principal. Who will own the team and which American drivers will be asked to drive? Panoz may be asked to build the car since they have a compound at Mid-Ohio or is it at the track in Ga.?

 

[Ardius]

Mario or Michael Andetti even Bobby Rahall may be team principal. Who will own the team and which American drivers will be asked to drive? Panoz may be asked to build the car since they have a compound at Mid-Ohio or is it at the track in Ga.?

Why wouldn't Ken Anderson or Peter Windsor be team principal?

The chassis will be no doubt custom built to keep costs down, seeing as the whole point of this team is that they have this supposed "amazing" idea for keeping costs down that apparently some people in F1 have already congragulated them for.

I highly doubt we will see both drivers being American, and even then I'm still not sure even 1 will be, if they want the team to stand half a chance, they need to build the team up with experienced personnel while giving a rookie driver some go's in testing and maybe as a second driver.
Although Jacques Villenueve was probably joking, I'm intrigued by the idea of him making an F1 return, seems plausible. There's also the test drivers from each team who are currently doing nothing, and people like Takuma Sato wandering around looking for drives.

Engine will likely be Cosworth, I'm fairly sure of that.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

As posted in the other thread, the first United States Grand Prix Engineerng drawings are complete.

 

[PeterJB]

I'd love to see Danica Patrick in F1 next year.

 

[Ardius]

I'd love to see Danica Patrick in F1 next year.

I'm sure which ever team gets her, their sponsors would love to see it too.

Doubtful and I have to question whether there is really a good reason other than the media coverage to hire her.
Of course, only a full season in F1 is a true test, as we have seen with Buemi, so I would certainly be interested to see if she could, but I doubt it happening.

 

[Zuel]

Why wouldn't Ken Anderson or Peter Windsor be team principal?👍

Engine will likely be Cosworth, I'm fairly sure of that.

They didn't even dross my mind, I think Ken would be a better chose. On the drivers if I remeber they said there would only be us drivers for the first two seasons. I can't remember the name of the us driver that was in F-1 a few years back. That's bad real bad, Marco maybe a good chose to drive the number 2 car, but which us vet would drive number 1?

 

[Zuel]

I'd love to see Danica Patrick in F1 next year.

I'm sure which ever team gets her, their sponsors would love to see it too.

Doubtful and I have to question whether there is really a good reason other than the media coverage to hire her.
Of course, only a full season in F1 is a true test, as we have seen with Buemi, so I would certainly be interested to see if she could, but I doubt it happening.

She already did an F-1 test and she failed badly...

 

[Ardius]

They didn't even dross my mind, I think Ken would be a better chose. On the drivers if I remeber they said there would only be us drivers for the first two seasons. I can't remember the name of the us driver that was in F-1 a few years back. That's bad real bad, Marco maybe a good chose to drive the number 2 car, but which us vet would drive number 1?

None, there is no "US vet" to drive the number 1 car, they will have to get a current driver if they want to make any development progress. Anyone from:
Pedro de la Rosa
Christian Klien
Gary Paffett
Alexander Wurz
Anthony Davidson
Vitantonio Liuzzi
Nicolas Hülkenberg
Takuma Sato

would be a good start. Particularly Hülkenberg, as he's highly rated.

 

[blinky77]

Paffett and Hülkenberg aren't veteran drivers though, and Wurz looks content to stay a test driver.

My ideal choice for a "veteran driver" would be Pedro de la Rosa, even if he would be 38/39 once USGPE hits the grid in 2010. Most experience as a race and test driver out of all those drivers you mentioned, and he's pretty competent in a race situation.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I'm sure which ever team gets her, their sponsors would love to see it too.

So she should just be prostituted out to whichever sponsor wants to see their name in the sport? Never mind the results, let's use her name and her breasts to get as much money as we possibly can while the going's good.

 

[corporatesteve]

I dont know if you noobs are aware of this but there are 2 american teams for 2010... no details on this 2nd one...was announced and confirmed at spanish gp by FIA.

 

[Metar]

We (at least, I) are aware, but seeing as it's nothing but an FIA statement so far, it's not worth discussing. Notice that a few posts here mention there's a second American team in the pipes.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

And who are you calling noobs? More to the point, why? Most of us post here regularly - for some like me, this is the only sub-forum we use - so I'm a little bemused as to who you're calling a noob.

Like Metar said, it was only a statement that a second team may materialise. And just because they file an entry doesn't mean it will be granted. It's currently looking like there will be four open entries for next year: the three teams to take the grid up to twenty-six, plus whoever buys Toro Rosso (I haven't counted the likes of Ferrari withdrawing, as I'm pretty sure the FIA and FOM don't want to see them leave). We know USGPE are pretty serious, as are Prodrive/Aston Martin. Lola and GP2 teams iSport and ART have also expressed interest, and Hyundai set a 2010 entry date as many as four years ago. So those final slots are going to be pretty hard-fought affairs; a second US-based entry is by no means guaranteed a position just because an FIA statement said there was an expression of interest. The governing body has already said the available positions will be awarded to whoever has the best proposal for entering.

Who's the noob now?

 

[Metar]

On the other hand, we'll have to consider that Brawn, Williams and Force India are the only teams not to have joined the boycott on the 2010 rules. If the FIA doesn't change them, we'll have a whole new grid next year.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I'm pretty sure the Concorde Agreement says that there has to be a minimum number of cars on te gridI think the number is twenty. With that in mind, the FIA can't let too many of the current teams get away because they might not be able to fill in all the slots. We don't want the grid populated by Simteks and Pacifics again. I'd say the FIA and FOM would be loathe to see Ferrari go, even if they think the sport could survive without them. That, combined with Toyota and Red Bull suggesting they will withdraw, and there's already trouble brewing. Bernie wants twenty-six cars on the grid, and I agree with the idea of having as many cars out there as possible. But with three teams suggesting they'll go, the three new teams would only be replacing them, and we're still stuck on twenty cars. The FIA don't want Ferrari to go, the FOM don't want Ferrari to go, and I doubt the fans and Ferrari themselves to see the team gone. I think a lot of what their threat has to do with - and I apologise if I'm reciting what someone hear has already said; I get my forums mixed up a little - is the fact that we've only had broad terms to describe how the regulations will differ between the teams. There's no specifics yet, and I don't think anyone wants to see another champonship where the results of the first races are under threat for a month because of a difference in design.

 

[Metar]

No, their problem is the difference between the systems. The regulations for each are already available from the FIA site.

And it's not Concorde - that's between the FIA and the teams - but Bernie's TV and track contracts that require 20 or more cars.

 

[corporatesteve]

And who are you calling noobs? More to the point, why? Most of us post here regularly - for some like me, this is the only sub-forum we use - so I'm a little bemused as to who you're calling a noob.

Just becuase you post here often doesnt automatically not declare you a noob, and becuase you have no idea what it means or what it refers to exactly, nor do you know who I'm calling it to, your pretty much a noob now no matter what... you sound like your 40 years old, I hope not... I dont have the time to educate older men on modern lingo. I brought some new info regarding an American team, and since this forum is not aware of it nor are you guys discussing it... I thought maybe i would drop in and say hello...dont get all anal on me just yet.

Like Metar said, it was only a statement that a second team may materialise. And just because they file an entry doesn't mean it will be granted. It's currently looking like there will be four open entries for next year: the three teams to take the grid up to twenty-six, plus whoever buys Toro Rosso (I haven't counted the likes of Ferrari withdrawing, as I'm pretty sure the FIA and FOM don't want to see them leave). We know USGPE are pretty serious, as are Prodrive/Aston Martin. Lola and GP2 teams iSport and ART have also expressed interest, and Hyundai set a 2010 entry date as many as four years ago. So those final slots are going to be pretty hard-fought affairs; a second US-based entry is by no means guaranteed a position just because an FIA statement said there was an expression of interest. The governing body has already said the available positions will be awarded to whoever has the best proposal for entering.

Blah blah blah blah blabby blsdakd... yes thanks for writing a whole long paragraph explaining everything we already know about

Who's the noob now?

Hmmm I'm still trying to figure out why you went on some crazy conversation about my post... I dont know if your noob'n out or what... I give you the heads up on a new information regarding American teams and you freak out like its a disco party at the clubs.

 

[Famine]

The question is why you're calling anyone "noob". There's certainly precious few people in this thread who would meet any known definition of "noob"...

I dont know if you noobs are aware of this but

And who are you calling noobs? More to the point, why? Most of us post here regularly - for some like me, this is the only sub-forum we use - so I'm a little bemused as to who you're calling a noob.

You sound like you're 40 years old, I hope not... I don't have the time to educate older men on modern lingo.

How does one go about sounding like they are a specific age? I mean aside from "Ga ga goo goo." or *hoarse* "Get off my lawn you good-for-nothing whippersnappers!", it's kind of difficult.

Especially in text form, which has no audible qualities.

Also, as you might see from the highlighted sections of the above quote, I have plenty of time to educate anyone on lingo, modern or otherwise.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Just becuase you post here often doesnt automatically not declare you a noob, and becuase you have no idea what it means or what it refers to exactly, nor do you know who I'm calling it to, your pretty much a noob now no matter what... you sound like your 40 years old, I hope not... I dont have the time to educate older men on modern lingo. I brought some new info regarding an American team, and since this forum is not aware of it nor are you guys discussing it... I thought maybe i would drop in and say hello...dont get all anal on me just yet.

Actually, I'm twenty-two, and as has been pointed out, your "information" was hardly new. I use the inverted commas because is hardly qualifies as being worthy of discussion when you deliver it in such a condescending manner. You don't work for FOX, do you?

See, here's where the issue for me lies: as taken from Urban Dictionary, noobs "know little and have no will to learn any more. They expect people to do the work for them and then expect to get praised about it, and make up a unique species of their own". I cannot think of a single regular poster in this forum who fits that definition. Most of us are pretty intelligent and appraoch the discussion with somethig resembling maturity; if we make mistakes or get our facts mixed up, we usually learn from them. I say "most of us" because we were doing really well ... until you showed up. That definition seems to fit you like a glove, what with the walking in here and assuming that between Metar, Blake, Famine, Aridus and all the other Usual Suspects of the subforum, we knew nothing of an annoucement that was made nearly a week ago.

Blah blah blah blah blabby blsdakd... yes thanks for writing a whole long paragraph explaining everything we already know about.

Given that it was obvious you hadn't read anything in the thread, I didn't know what you did know or didn't know. And given that your references to all of us as noobs didn't endear you to me in the slightest, I had very little problem with wasting your time.

Hmmm I'm still trying to figure out why you went on some crazy conversation about my post... I dont know if your noob'n out or what... I give you the heads up on a new information regarding American teams and you freak out like its a disco party at the clubs.

As was previously established, it was nothing new to begin with, but that's not the point here ... "freak out like it's a disco party at the clubs"? Who's the forty-year-old now?

 

[corporatesteve]

lol... so if I'm wrong then all of you members have personal experience in the F1 industry? oh wait thats a big NO. Anyways your noob definition is wrong by the way. Thats a different bandwagon public term that is slightly off to what it really means. And yes the information is actually new. Yes it was announced 3 days ago, but I was going to discuss something that relates to it. But thats ok becuase you guys know everything esp by keeping up on the online articles. Oh yeah thanks for the spell check!

BTW- I'm not 40, but thanks for assuming

 

[Famine]

lol... so if I'm wrong then all of you members have personal experience in the F1 industry? oh wait thats a big NO. Anyways your noob definition is wrong by the way. Thats a different bandwagon public term that is slightly off to what it really means.

Could you at any point be slightly less vague? Nothing you've said so far has any substance to it. Just a vague off-the-cuff remark buried in a sea of tripe.

And yes the information is actually new. Yes it was announced 3 days ago, but I was going to discuss something that relates to it.

It's actually new, but 3 days old?

Oh yeah thanks for the spell check!

Don't mention it.

BTW- I'm not 40, but thanks for assuming

Err... no-one said you were 40. And you said that someone else "sounds like" they are (and haven't answered how this is possible). So really you're denigrating someone else for doing something you actually did (and, importantly, that they didn't).


Do you actually have anything to add, or are you just here to flail around for attention?

 

[[FPV]Rusty]

nobody over the age of 14 uses the word noob anymore.

Just shut up.

 

[PeterJB]

Hmmm I'm still trying to figure out why you went on some crazy conversation about my post...

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that you called everybody a noob.

 

[Ardius]

Paffett and Hülkenberg aren't veteran drivers though, and Wurz looks content to stay a test driver.

My ideal choice for a "veteran driver" would be Pedro de la Rosa, even if he would be 38/39 once USGPE hits the grid in 2010. Most experience as a race and test driver out of all those drivers you mentioned, and he's pretty competent in a race situation.

No, but they are experienced in F1 as test drivers and would probably be quite willing to jump for a race seat.
Last I heard, Wurz didn't even know if he drove for Brawn anymore, lol. It seems to me that Davidson is their official third driver not that means anything at all now because test drivers are useless to the teams.

I agree, De La Rosa would probably be the best choice, but Sato and Davidson have some good experience and are just as (if not more) highly rated.

So she should just be prostituted out to whichever sponsor wants to see their name in the sport? Never mind the results, let's use her name and her breasts to get as much money as we possibly can while the going's good.

I didn't say that, but are you denying its the ultimate sponsorship opportunity? I couldn't think of a better one that would make a million headlines in F1.
I'm not stating what I think of her as a driver, just simply noting she has an advantage with sponsorship.

I dont know if you noobs are aware of this but there are 2 american teams for 2010... no details on this 2nd one...was announced and confirmed at spanish gp by FIA.

You're right, you don't know - so don't call people offensive words, numpty.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3391191&postcount=168

Hmm, and that was 4 days ago...

 

[PeterJB]

You're right, you don't know - so don't call people offensive words, numpty.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=3391191&postcount=168

Hmm, and that was 4 days ago...

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I didn't say that, but are you denying its the ultimate sponsorship opportunity? I couldn't think of a better one that would make a million headlines in F1.
I'm not stating what I think of her as a driver, just simply noting she has an advantage with sponsorship.

Well, I suppose that all we need now is to find a way to make a car that is powered by sponsorship dollars.

 

[Roo]

*bumpy bump bump*

Ignoring the last page of tripe...

YouTube co-founder backs Team US F1

By Jonathan Noble and Dieter Rencken Wednesday, August 19th 2009, 21:00 GMT

The new Team US F1 has pulled off a major coup by securing the services of YouTube co-founder and CEO Chad Hurley for its 2010 assault on grand prix racing, as AUTOSPORT predicted.

Following weeks of speculation linking Hurley with the operation, the Charlotte-based F1 team confirmed on Wednesday night that the millionaire will be the outfit's primary investor.

Speaking about the announcement, Hurley said: "I am thrilled to be a part of America's first Formula 1 team in more than 40 years.

"Getting in on the ground floor of a project of this size and scope is a tremendous opportunity, and I look forward to helping shape the US F1 vision and corporate strategy for years to come."

Hurley was one of the original founders of the video-sharing website YouTube, and has helped take it from its original concept to the huge global brand it is today. The business was sold to Google for $1.65 billion (USD) in 2006, although Hurley stayed on board to guide it.

As well as his financial input, US F1 has said that Hurley will bring his outside experience to the team to help with its corporate strategy and media planning going forward.

US F1 team principal Ken Anderson said: "Chad's addition to the team is a victory for USF1. Bringing in a businessman with his level of credentials, and experience in developing and fostering a vision for start-up companies, is an honour, and we look forward to taking on the Formula 1 challenge together in 2010 and beyond."

Sporting director Peter Windsor added: "This is a great day for USF1. Chad's commitment to this team is vital and his visionary expertise and leadership will help steer us into the future as we look to attract best-in-class sponsors, drivers, employees and fans in our quest to compete at the highest level of motorsports."

US F1's announcement about Hurley means that it is the first of the three new teams to confirm it has major investment on board, although AUTOSPORT understands that Manor Grand Prix has signed a deal with Virgin for a title sponsorship deal that will be announced in mid-November.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77778

Who needs Danica when you can have YouTube instead?