Another Fanatec wheel arrives!

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Looks like Australians are paying high prices again :( but hey, what can you do?
Prices
Pagnianimports.com.au
Pure Edition: $449.95 Clubsport Edition: $799.95 (no carbon fibre paddles)

Simparts.co.nz (Free shipping to AUS like pagnianimports)
Pure Edition: $499.95, no Clubsport edition YET
 
greekbull
You can tighten it more? My are pretty firm.
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It's not the aluminum shifter, it's the plastic one. It just feels loose.

EDIT: Just did a little DIY fix. Turns out the little piece of rubber covering the button came off and was pressed up against the paddle. 10 minutes later, everything is fixed!
 
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Are there any differences, aside from the wheel material and paint job, between the PWTS and the GT2? I've been reading posts from people saying that the GT2 is far better than the PWTS because of a few issues (loose wheel, doesn't feel heavy enough, centering issues, etc.). I'm wondering if maybe these issues were with the earlier versions of the PWTS because I don't remember having any of those issues with my PWTS.

Also, does Fanatec ever have sales? I wanted to pick up some new pedals but would rather get them when there's a sale (of any kind).
 
fishfash
Interestingly there is no mention whether the GT2 Wheel will allow connectivity with the Official Microsoft Wireless Wheel pedals.
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Received my GT2 wheel today and can confirm the adapter supplied is for the G25/G27 only and not for the MS Wheel, it looks like an updated part as it is now a cable rather than a box type.

Initial impressions are that I find the rumble and perhaps even the FF is not as strong as the Turbo S wheel. Not to mention that it feels like I am holding a cat when driving :lol:

Great job though Fanatec, it's a 👍 from me.
 
Update....Update....
I received a Message yesterday from Thomas and he is very keen to investigate and resolve the issue, I thank him for his willingness to help.

Happy holiday
 
PWTS with standard pedals.
Bought around april 2010.

At first it was just the brakes sticking randomly (both GT5 and forza 3).
Then the clutch now kicks in randomly (both GT5 and forza 3).
Also throttle pedal doesn't register 100%.

Have tried numerous things, unplug-replug ps2 connector, restart wheel, update firmware, etc etc

Seems like the standard pedals are not working well.
Sent an email to fanatec support Dec 17 and sent another one today.
Hopefully someone will respond soon.

Would be happy to upgrade to CSP.

cheers

EDIT: got a response from Armin yesterday and getting the help I need.
Thanks fanatec
 
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dees86
PWTS with standard pedals.
Bought around april 2010.

At first it was just the brakes sticking randomly (both GT5 and forza 3).
Then the clutch now kicks in randomly (both GT5 and forza 3).
Also throttle pedal doesn't register 100%.

Have tried numerous things, unplug-replug ps2 connector, restart wheel, update firmware, etc etc

Seems like the standard pedals are not working well.
Sent an email to fanatec support Dec 17 and sent another one today.
Hopefully someone will respond soon.

Would be happy to upgrade to CSP.

cheers
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Same boat as you. I sent in a couple of support requests, even with videos showing the problem. Haven't got a email back, hopefully it's just the holidays slowing them down. My pedals are worthless at this point.
 
Just a heads up to those who own a GT2 wheel.

If you have the fans set to always "on" you may find that that the top fan does not always start when the wheel is powered on. You can always check to see if your fans start up by shining a torch into the top grill on start up.

Alternatively you can press the 4 bottom buttons whilst the wheel is in standby mode to toggle off the fans and toggle them back on, this should kick start the fans, this is what I am having to do.

There definately has been a huge improvement with the fan noise though, I guess the engineers have cut some more metal which used to rub against the fan in the PWTS 👍 Although I still think Fanatec have tightened those 2 screws too much which maybe causing the fans not to always turn on during start up.

Just an observation and information for GT2 wheel owners and Fanatec.

Thanks.
 
As someone who has owned a Turbo S for while and just received a GT2, I can tell you it's essentially a Turbo S in a GT3 RS v2 body. The FFB, steering feel, noise, and firmware are identical with mine. The housing is identical. The GT2 uses the same tuning functions, calibration routines, and wireless binding methods as the Turbo S.

Most differences are basically things you can see in pictures: wheel shape, Alcantara wrap, color, slightly improved shifter paddles. I like the wheel shape better, and the Alcantara feels wonderful. The aluminum ClubSport paddles and spacers are now included. The paddle shifter buttons are no longer molded from the same plastic as the wheel housing, but are now separate mechanisms the extend from somewhere inside the housing. The result is marginally better tactile feel, but a little more precision. The paddle shifters are still nowhere close to the G25 or G27. The biggest surprise is the buttons on the spokes feel a lot better. They're much more positive, whereas the Turbo S has buttons that feel mushy and vague.

Sometimes new products are offer introductory or package prices. Supposedly the ClubSport Pedals once went on sale.

Meelapo
Are there any differences, aside from the wheel material and paint job, between the PWTS and the GT2? I've been reading posts from people saying that the GT2 is far better than the PWTS because of a few issues (loose wheel, doesn't feel heavy enough, centering issues, etc.). I'm wondering if maybe these issues were with the earlier versions of the PWTS because I don't remember having any of those issues with my PWTS.

Also, does Fanatec ever have sales? I wanted to pick up some new pedals but would rather get them when there's a sale (of any kind).
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mikemav
What makes youneven think Fanatec's goal is to become a "big box retailer"? From the sounds of it your better off with Logitech; you don't get where they are coming from at Fanatec. But I agree with the others, it still seems most of the blame here in your unfortunate case comes from USPS. Perhaps what you interpret as "cold" emails from HQ are partially a language barrier?

No one is saying Fanatec can't stand to improve their customer service, but there are tradeoffs when dealing with cutting edge stuff. Regardless, it may not be your cup of tea, but personally I'd rather deal with some bumps in the road with a smaller company in order to get superior products that meet my needs, and create unique new products to the marketplace. You must not have a 360 or be a Forza fan? If so, good luck playing that on the other wheels. Personally I had to have a tri-platform wheel so if it took a little longer to come from Germany, I dealt with it. But to each his/her own.
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I'll chime in here as I ordered products from Fanatec about the same time as Capt aa1. There were definite problems with Fanatec's US shipper in November and December. If you look back there were a few of us that had many issues. In most instances we were sent an initial email stating products are shipping (with small print stating that they may not actually ship for 1 week, WTF?). Then after anywhere from 5-10 days we received another email with a tracking number with USPS. If you actually did the tracking you would have found that USPS received a shipping notification, but no actual items. After numerous emails some items were eventually shipped. Mine finally shipped about 10 days after I received the tracking number and about 17 days after I placed the order. Some people weren't so lucky.

I have ordered numerous products from many companies and have never had USPS lose or mis track a package. I can understand if one or two people have issues, but for a whole group of people to have problems with tracking is highly unlikely. A much more plausible explanation is that there distributor in the USA screwed up. I suspect they sent shipping information to USPS, but for some reason never actually sent the packages. It's the only thing that makes sense. Maybe they had a new employee? Maybe they were out of stock and didn't realize it. I don't know the reason, but I'm certain that there were many problems that were NOT the fault of USPS.

I am very happy with my Fanatec products. I would recommend them with the caveat that you may have issues with shipping. Many have no issues and get their products quickly. However, there have been numerous intstances of strange occurences and poor communication related to shipping within US and Canada and you may run into those as have I and many others.
 
Regards GT5 and Fanatec Wheels I have some questions.

1. The GT5 "in game menu" settings for FFB values of 1-10.
Are these in any way combined with "wheel menu" FFB settings or does the "wheel menu" FFB settings override the "in game menu" FFB settings? If so what is the recommended optimium bearing in mind the situation mentioned in question 3.

2. Wheel "ABS Vibrate" or "Throttle Vibrate" from the "SHO" feature.
These motors which are seperate from the "Dualshock Rumble" motors and unique to Fanatec wheels. Can a future firmware allow users to select these to be used alongside "Rumble" motors instead of giving "Brake/Throttle" rumble. This would enchance "Kerbs" etc within games greatly in the wheel. If not possible via firmware Id like to see this feature in a future product.

3. Will their be a fix for Fanatec wheels to seperate FFB/Rumble motor strengths?
In GT5 the "in game" value for FFB makes no difference to "Dualshock Rumble" strength from the "kerbs" when using G25 or DF-GT wheels. It can not be altered but on these wheels isnt to me it seems effected from the FFB 1-10 strength settings. It seems only on Fanatec wheels and using the "wheel menu" that these are combined and you cannot reduce FFB strength without also reducing the "Dualshock Rumble" strength. Therefore on a Fanatec wheel in GT5 currently its impossible to retain maximium "Dualshock Rumble" with FFB set below 100 on the "wheel menu".

Appreciate any feedback and answers that clarify these questions.
 
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@Gobrigavitch,

A couple of observations on the shipping. It seems almost everyone that had shipping issues is in Canada. Now this could be due to the fact that things were delayed getting out the door but in my experience shipping to Canada from the US it's most likely a combination of USPS and Canadian Customs.

USPS does a horrible job tracking packages. I use them a lot and most times tracking info will show "Billing Information Recieved" all the way past the time it has been delivered. Also Canadian Customs is a total gamble. I have shipped many items and there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to the length of time it takes. Some shoot through quickly and others sit for a couple of weeks.

Now I'm not saying that the problems were totally outside of Fanatec's problems but in my experience shipping from the US to Canada can be a nightmare.
 
Mr Latte
1. The GT5 "in game menu" settings for FFB values of 1-10.
Are these in any way combined with "wheel menu" FFB settings or does the "wheel menu" FFB settings override the "in game menu" FFB settings? If so what is the recommended optimium bearing in mind the situation mentioned in question 3.
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It seems to be cumulative. If I had GT5 force feedback maxed out, some environmental effects seemed to get lost when driving. Reducing in-game force feedback to around 3 and leaving in-wheel force feedback at 100 feels pretty nice. I don't have it perfectly sorted as per question 3 however.

2. Wheel "ABS Vibrate" or "Throttle Vibrate" from the "SHO" feature.
These motors which are seperate from the "Dualshock Rumble" motors and unique to Fanatec wheels. Can a future firmware allow users to select these to be used alongside "Rumble" motors instead of giving "Brake/Throttle" rumble. This would enchance "Kerbs" etc within games greatly in the wheel. If not possible via firmware Id like to see this feature in a future product.
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The Fanatec wheel supports rumble feedback effects separately from force feedback but the game software needs to specifically support this. PS3 wheels don't seem to have dedicated rumble motors and simulate rumble effects via the force feedback motors. I don't expect we'll ever see this level of support for Fanatec wheels in GT5, which is a shame, as it could really add some subtle road surface feel. I just use the vibration motors for canned ABS lockup effects, tuned to the threshold of my ClubSport pedals. I prefer that to the cheesy engine vibration shock effects.

3. Will their be a fix for Fanatec wheels to seperate FFB/Rumble motor strengths?
In GT5 the "in game" value for FFB makes no difference to "Dualshock Rumble" strength from the "kerbs" when using G25 or DF-GT wheels. It can not be altered but on these wheels isnt effected from the FFB 1-10 strength settings. It seems only on Fanatec wheels and using the "wheel menu" that these are combined and you cannot reduce FFB strength without also reducing the "Dualshock Rumble" strength. Therefore on a Fanatec wheel in GT5 currently its impossible to retain maximium "Dualshock Rumble" with FFB set below 10 on the "wheel menu".
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Don't know about this yet, as it's not something I explicitly noticed or looked for. I'll have to play around some more.
 
Sorry, when I refer to setting the "wheel menu" FFB I meant 100 (max) not 10, so have changed.

For those willing to try and test things I recommend the first Monza Chicane for testing "Dualshock Rumble" used for kerbs.The kerb strength is dependant on your speed also but try going over these at the same speed lowering the FFB strength on the Fanatec wheel.

DF-GT or G25 / G27 owners try the same thing with "in game" settings from 1-10 . With those wheels the FFB wheel resistance value DOES NOT to my knowledge reduce the "Dualshock Rumble" from the kerbs.

Id like Thomas to clarify exactly how his wheels work with "ingame menu settings" or if indeed "wheel menu settings" over-ride those with the Fanatec wheel benefit allowing the player to alter them on the fly during gameplay.

SRT or nowhere have I seen were this has been made clear.

Are people that are aparently experiencing more "detailed" FFB sensing this because they are lowering the wheels "FFB Value" which is also reducing the "Dualshock Rumble" and giving them the impression of additional FFB clarity?

Or it is in fact a combination of the "in game menus" settings do work with "in wheel menus" settings together, which is it?
 
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Got my new GT2 + standard pedals (xmas budget was already gone to my wife...) + RF dongle - shifter set + wheelstand weren't in stock - so how to test it and use it without the stand if you have no table in the room ? Any idea for a quick&dirty solution (only to be used till the stand is in stock again) ? I do not have much room in front of my couch, because it stands on a podest in my homecinema (thats the reason why i had to go with the RF option - all the technical stuff is in a seperat room), so most "normal" tables will not fit.
 
If you have tray table or a sawhorse handy, that may work. It won't be pretty or very ergonomic, but if you're just testing, it can be good for that use.
 
greekbull
@Gobrigavitch,

A couple of observations on the shipping. It seems almost everyone that had shipping issues is in Canada. Now this could be due to the fact that things were delayed getting out the door but in my experience shipping to Canada from the US it's most likely a combination of USPS and Canadian Customs.

USPS does a horrible job tracking packages. I use them a lot and most times tracking info will show "Billing Information Recieved" all the way past the time it has been delivered. Also Canadian Customs is a total gamble. I have shipped many items and there seems to be no rhyme or reason as to the length of time it takes. Some shoot through quickly and others sit for a couple of weeks.

Now I'm not saying that the problems were totally outside of Fanatec's problems but in my experience shipping from the US to Canada can be a nightmare.
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I don't think this was customs are USPS. USPS didn't get the packages until 10days after the tracking number was generated. Once they got the packages they took 5 days to get from LA to Vancouver and sat in customs for a day. That I expect. This was different and in my opinion came from something at Fanatec's end.
 
Can anyone help me out and explain the effect of changing which of the 5 holes is used on the back of the clubsport pedals:
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Taking the brake pedal for example. Assuming all other settings were unchanged, what would be the effect of moving the brake from the lowest hole to the highest hole on the pressure / movement required to achieve 100% braking?

Thanks
James
 
On lower hole the pedal would need less pressure and more travel to reach 100%, on higher holes it's the opposite - more pressure and less travel.
 
DR or Versapak
As Fanatec hasnt answered can an you answer my previous questions about how exactly Fanatec wheels work with game settings or if the wheel overrides these with it's own settings?
 
Does anyone know the status on Clubsport Pedals? Are they in or out of stock? Reason I ask is because my standard pedals are faulty and instead of getting them replaced I chose a CSP discount option. Well I payed the discounted amount through paypal, I just was wondering when I should expect them.
 

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