Are the S-Class licenses hard?

[X3rx3s44]

Use to be a time when License tests were a real challenge

Everybody's special now and must be told they're good. Failure is, literally, not an option.

These are quite possibly the two most accurate statements in the entire GT6 Forum! 👍

I am looking forward to rejoining the WRS once it kicks off again after a couple of years absence. Now that will be a real challenge for those of us looking for a genuine test of our ability rather than some turn up learn track/car combo first run whilst getting silver, complete second run and earn gold style "challenge". What's worse is that some are so easy you can gold first run without even learning the track/car combo and respective braking/turn-in points etc...

 

[Stotty]

What's worse is that some are so easy you can gold first run without even learning the track/car combo and respective braking/turn-in points etc...

Agreed 👍

My experience of S licenses last night…

Passed the GT86 one 2nd try... I was very surprised, as I’m not very good with the pad and I’d only intended to try it to get a feel for the level of challenge. Car felt lovely, with plenty of entry rotation.

Moved on to the Alfa at Willow Hills and had 3 goes before quitting as the car was understeerig and oversteering everywhere it was too dark even with the driving line on – I thought (hoped!) that maybe the tests were getting harder so I intended to come back to this with the wheel.

Moved to the XBow. Now I’ve only driven the Xbox once, that version of Silverstone once or twice (one of the Kart races I think) and don’t know the layout or braking points, but I forgot to turn off the driving line off from the previous test. Pretty much drifted my way round the lap and golded 1st try... Hmmmmm

Took 3 goes in the Aventador to get a feel for the weight transfer (it has much less understeer than the car from the dealers), then golded 4th try by mostly drifting the lap – realised afterwards I’d even forgot to turn traction control off!

Veyron. I never drove the Veyron in GT5, and only used it in GT6 to get the 111m/s trophy. Expected it to be an understeering POS, but immediately found it to be a drift monster Took me a good few attempts to find the braking points given how fast it accelerates and how little I really understand Ascari, but once I sussed if you got the nose nailed on entry you could boot the tail out on the exits, the car flew round… enjoyed it, but beat the time by 2s.

By this time, I thought I may as well try the Alfa again.

Turned up the brightness on the TV, left TC on 5, and immediately binned a very good lap on the final corner. Restarted, passed 2nd attempt.

Less than an hour to pass all 5... very disappointed.

After getting the licenses I took a tuned Rocket to Brands and lapped an entire field of GT500 cars in 15 laps FFS

S License and events need to be much more challenging that that IMO.

 

[X3rx3s44]

Less than an hour to pass all 5... very disappointed.

S License and events need to be much more challenging that that IMO.

Couldn't agree more! 👍

I am all for making the game more accessible to newer/less skilled players but there is a point where it just gets silly and I think we have gone beyond that now.

These "tests" are not about skill any more it is instead a simple competency check. They may as well just be pass/fail with the gold time being the benchmark as they are so easy anyone should be able to do them (with practice in some cases).

I don't claim to know the solution but I have already earned gold in all licence tests and challenges on GT6 and earned all race stars and don't feel any sense of achievement. Whereas in GT5 I also had all golds and the Platinum trophy to show for my efforts but that was an achievement and took a hell of a lot longer than the first two weeks of release to achieve, not to mention I was a student back then and had a lot more time to race also.

I can't even remember how long I spent cursing at the wheel of the X2010 Vettel Challenge to earn all golds without SRF... ... Hours to complete a total of 6 (very short) laps!

Also for the record, I am only a D1B standard driver (D1S on a good day!) so I am no superhuman (D1G ) driver by any means so if I can do it so easy I can only imagine everyone else can too, sure it will take some people longer but isn't that the point? Satisfaction comes from achieving things that are challenging not handed to you on a platter.

 

[Dean]

I think the licenses are a bit too easy as well. I mean, I'm a monkey when racing, yet I managed to gold everything within a few tries. It's too easy then, I suppose. I'm not saying they should be as hard as GT5's, but they should be closer to them than they are now.

 

[Stotty]

Couldn't agree more!

I am all for making the game more accessible to newer/less skilled players but there is a point where it just gets silly and I think we have gone beyond that now.

These "tests" are not about skill any more it is instead a simple competency check. They may as well just be pass/fail with the gold time being the benchmark as they are so easy anyone should be able to do them (with practice in some cases).

I don't claim to know the solution but I have already earned gold in all licence tests and challenges on GT6 and earned all race stars and don't feel any sense of achievement. Whereas in GT5 I also had all golds and the Platinum trophy to show for my efforts but that was an achievement and took a hell of a lot longer than the first two weeks of release to achieve, not to mention I was a student back then and had a lot more time to race also.

I can't even remember how long I spent cursing at the wheel of the X2010 Vettel Challenge to earn all golds without SRF...

... Hours to complete a total of 6 (very short) laps!

Also for the record, I am only a D1B standard driver (D1S on a good day!) so I am no superhuman (D1G

) driver by any means so if I can do it so easy I can only imagine everyone else can too, sure it will take some people longer but isn't that the point? Satisfaction comes from achieving things that are challenging not handed to you on a platter.

Yes, so far GT6 does seem to have a much shorter and easier route to 100%/Platinum.

The lack of real challenges, such as the X1 events in GT5 (I found the Nurb GP one of these incredibly difficult), and higher end content (such as proper endurances races) means pretty much everyone will be at 100%/Platinum on the game within a few weeks of getting it – so far I haven’t come across 1 event that offers any real challenge and I’m at c.94% completion.

I might be D1G (really only D1S!), but I didn’t even need to get my wheel out to gold S class!

The longevity of GT6 will rely almost entirely on the promised new content, the on-line experience, decent seasonal TT’s and some added A spec races. For me, only the TT’s and on-line really matter. If the additional A spec doesn’t count towards completion, and I don’t need the credits (as I’ve already glitched every car I’ll want to drive), I doubt I’ll even bother to run them given how rubbish the AI remain.

Roll on some decent Seasonals WITHOUT SRF FFS!!!!111!

 

[Giulietta73]

Most of the licenses were straight forward to gold - which did surprise me as a DS3 user. I was expecting GT5 level of difficulty (Jeez, that one test in GT5 taking the 2 hairpins at Indy and the one with BMW Concept on the Schuni esses nearly killed me!!)

The benefit of that level of challenge is having that indepth knowledge/experience of a particular track/sector/corner which you can then apply in races. (I still recall and put into practice the Trial Mtn test in GT3 - carrying enough momentum through the bend to maintain your speed up the hill!!)

It was the Veyron and the Aventador tests in GT6 that took a while. With the Aventador it was the 1st corner of Brands Hatch that lost me the time. And the Veyron - well - when you think you have braked early enough for a small 'kink' in the road, you haven't!! That thing understeers like an ocean-bound oil tanker!! However, I feel a bit more in tune with Ascari now:tup:

 

[Saber186]

ugh I need a second almost 2 just to bronze with the Veyron.a damn dump truck could turn better than that thing.sucks you cant do a lil tunning to it to make it turn n stay on the damn track you pile lol

 

[Jammasta]

ugh I need a second almost 2 just to bronze with the Veyron.a damn dump truck could turn better than that thing.sucks you cant do a lil tunning to it to make it turn n stay on the damn track you pile lol

I found that turning the Aids off made a HUGE difference. So much faster, i was 2-3 seconds off bronze until i did this. Then i got it easy in 2 goes.

 

[X3rx3s44]

ugh I need a second almost 2 just to bronze with the Veyron.a damn dump truck could turn better than that thing.sucks you cant do a lil tunning to it to make it turn n stay on the damn track you pile lol

These quotes below are your friends with this test! 👍

I found that turning the Aids off made a HUGE difference. So much faster, i was 2-3 seconds off bronze until i did this. Then i got it easy in 2 goes.

I never drove the Veyron in GT5, and only used it in GT6 to get the 111m/s trophy. Expected it to be an understeering POS, but immediately found it to be a drift monster Took me a good few attempts to find the braking points given how fast it accelerates and how little I really understand Ascari, but once I sussed if you got the nose nailed on entry you could boot the tail out on the exits, the car flew round… enjoyed it, but beat the time by 2s.

Also, keep in mind with regard to Stotty's comments above that as the car is a 4WD so when you apply any throttle your front wheels are pulling you in the direction they are pointing, so you can get the back to slide a little and prevent the tank-like push from all the weight then just crank on plenty of front lock to get them pulling you around the corner too!

No need to treat the tyres with any respect, they don't have wear enabled in these tests so you can give them absolute hell with no consequences!

 

[Saber186]

I had to turn it off for awhile...my beagle was starting to learn some new words

I finally got thru it..by a happy accident I bumped the e brake and pretty much drifted thru one of the tight corners that I was having problems with..still only managed a 2:18 but I'm done with it ..ohhhh yeah

 

[Dagger311]

I'm done, I don't even care about gold anymore. There's no point in trying if it pisses me off, so I'm just going to take the easy way out: Get bronze and grind for the car you get for gold. It's a game, and I'd rather have fun than pull my hair out. Every video I've seen has them on manual transmission and I don't have the coordination to keep shifting gears.

Thanks for all of the feedback though, appreciate the effort.

 

[dr_slump]

No

 

[Dagger311]

Got bronze on all of the ones except for the x-bow (Silver on that), and turns out I had enough money left over from the Red Bull challenges and the 48' Hudson special event to buy the gold reward without grinding.

No

"No" to what exactly?

 

[Kwicko]

I think the "No" was in answer to the post's title.

 

[dr_slump]

I think the "No" was in answer to the post's title.

It was

 

[Dagger311]

I think the "No" was in answer to the post's title.

Oh lol. I thought it was in reply to my last post.

 

[iMixmasTer]

They are pretty easy. If you need any help this guy has some awesome laps.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...mg-vision-gt-super-licences-completed.291826/

 

[owen_legend]

I did them today, yes they are hard, no not impossible!
Took me about 4 hours all in, 1 of which was spent in the aventador and 1 in the veyron.

Turn the TCS off on the trials (except the TZ3 night trial), and just keep trying, you're laps get faster and faster and eventually you'll pull off a golden lap and get the gold.
The X-bow is by far the easiest

 

[Dagger311]

I did them today, yes they are hard, no not impossible!
Took me about 4 hours all in, 1 of which was spent in the aventador and 1 in the veyron.

Turn the TCS off on the trials (except the TZ3 night trial), and just keep trying, you're laps get faster and faster and eventually you'll pull off a golden lap and get the gold.
The X-bow is by far the easiest

Thanks for the input, but I'm just going to move on. I'm having fun with my new Audi, and would rather not frustrate myself any further. And I agree, the x-bow was the easiest.

 

[GT5FREAK500]

This are driving me insane, never have I cursed and sweared so much in one night, The TZ2 handles like a pile of poop, brands hatch and ascari are horrible, horrible tracks and the Veyron understeers so much its not funny.

 

[Dagger311]

This are driving me insane, never have I cursed and sweared so much in one night, The TZ2 handles like a pile of poop, brands hatch and ascari are horrible, horrible tracks and the Veyron understeers so much its not funny.

Exactly. I want to drive the cars I want, on the tracks I want. For instance, I loved drag racing in gt5 with the veyron because you didn't have to turn it. I love willow springs, but at night in a crappy car? No.

 

[S60]

As a guy who has played with a normal controller pad through every other GT game and settled with silver and bronze for the harder licenses, I didn't really have much problems getting gold at all. I think those of you who are struggling with these S-licenses need to just adjust to the car instead of trying to make the car adjust to your driving style. That was the mindset I used to get gold fairly easy on the S-licenses I even golded the Veyron challenge with over a second to spare.

 

[caffeine4130]

I haven't gotten to the IB or S classes yet, but haven't faced any resistance so far. The Goodwood Festival challenges have proven harder than a majority of the license tests. Aiming to Platinum this game.

 

[Outeke]

It seems to that I'm a very poor driver.
I cannot get the S4 done, still 1.5 seconds short...


Done

 

[Eddierome84]

Yeah, but then people complain about how they're too hard and elitist and the special prizes for doing it count as "locked content" they've paid for and so should have access to.

Everybody's special now and must be told they're good. Failure is, literally, not an option.

No. No, they're not hard.

Broke two controllers because of GT5 Test.1.Stuck and broken Left analoge. 2. Flung it in the street.

 

[Antmeg26]

I did them today, yes they are hard, no not impossible!
Took me about 4 hours all in, 1 of which was spent in the aventador and 1 in the veyron.

Turn the TCS off on the trials (except the TZ3 night trial), and just keep trying, you're laps get faster and faster and eventually you'll pull off a golden lap and get the gold.
The X-bow is by far the easiest

Ditto strategy. Don't give up. Have fun. Better than housework.

 

[Dutchyfutch]

Had A harder time in gt 2-5 lol

 

[Spiderman_Geek]

Not nearly as difficult as GT5. Only the Veyron was a bit of a pain. Just need smooth driving, get a few laps under your belt and learn courses.

I agree with this. With a DS3, I easily golded every test in every level except for the final 2 tests of the S License.

I don't consider myself a Pro at GT either. I was never able to gold all of the license tests in GT5, not for lack of trying.

 

[Vitocorp]

S-1 very easy, 2 laps then gold
S-2 medium, had to do few laps before achieving the full potential of the car
S-3 easy, manage to get gold in few attempts
S-4 hard, a lot of laps slower than less 0.5 seconds the gold time...
S-5 medium, took me almost the same number of attempts as S-3, when you get confidence with the car is not that hard as you may think.

Definitely easier than GT5 ones, like the whole game.
I managed to get all gold on Goodwood (even with the Red Bull, done after 4/5 attempts) quite easily, on GT5 some of the special events are still bronze right now, Red Bull included, miraculously silver at Monza.
The average difficult is lowered then before but still difficult for a lot of people (expecially ds3 users) but I'm ok with that.
I'll be honest anyway (altough I totally love the possibility to buy EVERY SINGLE car you want as long as you got enough credits), I missed the "special" cars you could only get with a gold trophy on a event/license test.

 

[Chris___75]

Broke two controllers because of GT5 Test.1.Stuck and broken Left analoge. 2. Flung it in the street.

Been there done that. Wonder what the neighbours think....