ATAQ - a time trial experiment
- Thread starter Gorefast
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- 570
- NRW
- apaul3133
Out of curiosity: did anyone use engine swaps at RA so far?
As everyone was happy with the Porsche I thought it might be clever to put the Porsche engine into the Subaru WRX STi '14 but so far I cannot cope with it...
Even my Evo VIII has its stock engine!
@rheinaoi : thank you for your weight recommendation! I tried the AMG GT and like the power and the grip but at the moment it is too heavy in my spec.
As everyone was happy with the Porsche I thought it might be clever to put the Porsche engine into the Subaru WRX STi '14 but so far I cannot cope with it...
Even my Evo VIII has its stock engine!
@rheinaoi : thank you for your weight recommendation! I tried the AMG GT and like the power and the grip but at the moment it is too heavy in my spec.
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- 937
- Germany
Posted a replay of a 1:19.9. Set the car up for more oversteer and did a slightly slidey lap at 19.6, but this one doesn't count as I cut the chicane without the shortcut penalty enabled. 19.5 seems to be my absolute possible limit with this car where I'm already driving on a knife's edge.
The switch to sports soft tyres was a great decision - I'm having so much fun inducing neutral steer or power drifting into/out of the corners. You can really feel the limit of traction and how the aero factors in.
The switch to sports soft tyres was a great decision - I'm having so much fun inducing neutral steer or power drifting into/out of the corners. You can really feel the limit of traction and how the aero factors in.
- 224
- Germany
Are u kidding me?! I'm slowly crawling to the 1.20 barrier and you're talking of hitting 1.19,5!!!!
Well done
but now, please slow down and give the rest of us some hope! 😁A little anecdote: During my fastest lap so far, i was wondering why suddenly the time is displayed in red? Well, i found out watching the replay - the lap before, i managed to ignore a penalty, that was on display for about 2/3 of the lap!
(Looks like i was 'in the zone' 🤣)
- 937
- Germany
If you don't slow down and carry the penalty over the finish line, the time is added to the lap and the following one ger's invalidated.Are u kidding me?! I'm slowly crawling to the 1.20 barrier and you're talking of hitting 1.19,5!!!!
Well done
A little anecdote: During my fastest lap so far, i was wondering why suddenly the time is displayed in red? Well, i found out watching the replay - the lap before, i managed to ignore a penalty, that was on display for about 2/3 of the lap!
- 570
- NRW
- apaul3133
The more I drive the more I adore your result. At the moment I am 2 seconds away (!) and might improve a bit with the R35 into the 20' but that's it. The cars feel good and the track is made for this but I am simply slower than @Meythia and you (and probably many more in here...). I learn and have still fun so far. Thank you!
- 937
- Germany
Thank you for the kind comment. A few laps in the low 19's have been posted by the others, so I'm still a stretch away from the quickest here. Expecting someone will crack the 19, but this is wishful thinking. Atm I'm kinda stuck with the 991 because of the crazy rotation combined with highest downforce - haven't found any car that cones close so far and a bit limited in time to test more. So gonna stick with the Porschd. It feels I can squeeze out more, but as stated before 19.5 seems to be my theoretical limit.
Edit: 20 with the R35 sounds very quick! Haven't tested it but all AWDs I've tried were around 21-22. Are you in the Nismo, V-Spec or M-Spec?
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bliprunner
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- United Kingdom
- bliprunner
Just managed to sneak the LFA into the 1.19's, will share the lap with tags ataq and blip. Same as round one, I stuck with my first choice car and tried to learn a bit about tuning...
Car was originally lapping around 21.5 when adjusted for power and weight, then I messed about to trying to solve issues I felt were holding back the laptime. Calming down the rear and going towards understeer, trying to ride the kerbs better, removing weight and HP, and finally ramping up the front aero to max.
There's definitely another tenth or two if I nail the lap, but probably not capable of a low .19, at least not with my tuning skills...
Car was originally lapping around 21.5 when adjusted for power and weight, then I messed about to trying to solve issues I felt were holding back the laptime. Calming down the rear and going towards understeer, trying to ride the kerbs better, removing weight and HP, and finally ramping up the front aero to max.
There's definitely another tenth or two if I nail the lap, but probably not capable of a low .19, at least not with my tuning skills...
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- 570
- NRW
- apaul3133
I lack driving skills but also thought about the LFA. Now I can have a look at the tuning and the driving. Thanks for sharing!
It might sound different but I chose my weapons quite early this time: The Toyota Supra '19 for RWD and the Nissan GT-R R35 for AWD. For FWD I went with the Volvo V40 but am not happy so far and several seconds off.
Over all my personal opinion is that this round is more about the driving than the tuning and that there are many ways to get a good result. Right now I would like to keep the rules and move on to Brands Hatch for round 3 (because of the bloody poll I cannot remove 🤬). Any comments and suggestions are welcome as usual...
- 2,751
- Germany
@Gorefast
med rpm turbo
strong anti lag
rennen = racing stuff
The previously mentioned Porsche is a beast in corner speed, but I have not got ridden of its oversteer tendency yet.
I see its potential, but I dont think it is a car that is to my liking.
The AMG black is the opposite, too much understeer, but I have not seen any potential at all 🤣
- 570
- NRW
- apaul3133
Thank you for sharing your tuning! Now I can have a look where I am completely wrong... I am right now on the edge of 20/21 and honestly that is probably as close as I can get at the moment. (The same with the Supra -I want to see a 20 but that's all.)
Your lap with the Vette is amazing and has already helped me a lot. The screenshot with your lap time is provisionally and not final, isn't it? I hope you had a nice Holiday!
- 2,751
- Germany
ay, not final yet.
I am aiming to reduce that time to the current optimal, but I have no hopes of being much faster than that.
Share your thoughts about the setup, Im quite interested in seeing how we all are percieving handling differently.
Sidenote: I am going to be in Hannover on Saturday, Theater am Aegi. Any parking recommendations? 😇
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- 325
- New York City
- challah_rajni
I just tried @Meythia 's R35. It's very, VERY good.
1:19.389 for me.
Penalties set to strong. Replay is posted #ataq #ataq4wd #rheinaoi
Meythia's R35 was incredibly stable everywhere. And quite a bit faster down the final straightaway than anything I've built so far. Initially, I struggled getting the R35 to rotate in the first sector, because I have spent entirely too much time fighting the Audi R8 V10's oversteer.
With a little more rotation / a more skilled driver than me, I think the R35 can touch the 1:18s.
Meanwhile, I continue my hopeless dedication to the R8 V10:
1:19.274
The replay is posted. #ataq #ataq4wd #rheinai [because I forgot how to spell my name 🫠 ]
Here are my Audi's settings
I need to delete a bunch of times from my leader board and make space for the forgotten Front Wheel Drive cars. I've paid little attention to them for this round.
1:19.389 for me.
Penalties set to strong. Replay is posted #ataq #ataq4wd #rheinaoi
Meythia's R35 was incredibly stable everywhere. And quite a bit faster down the final straightaway than anything I've built so far. Initially, I struggled getting the R35 to rotate in the first sector, because I have spent entirely too much time fighting the Audi R8 V10's oversteer.
With a little more rotation / a more skilled driver than me, I think the R35 can touch the 1:18s.
Meanwhile, I continue my hopeless dedication to the R8 V10:
1:19.274
The replay is posted. #ataq #ataq4wd #rheinai [because I forgot how to spell my name 🫠 ]
Here are my Audi's settings
I need to delete a bunch of times from my leader board and make space for the forgotten Front Wheel Drive cars. I've paid little attention to them for this round.
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- 2,751
- Germany
After watching:
I think you would still be a bit faster with a slightly overrevving the engine - and with the bit more speed you have compared to my run at every spot of the track you would need 3 to 5 clicky on every gear into longer gear ratio.
My initial thought on the car was "not exactly very aero dynamic body form" which was my reason for that power and weight.
After fiddeling around for a few uncounted (hours) of laps, I changed that
Old / new
That power to weight statistically provides better acceleration.
But I have not yet made the fine adjustment to the suspension that comes with reduced weight, so it doesnt feel quite as good and I thought I could still be better with the old setup.
I havent given that any thought yet - cant decide with suicide bomb I am going to ride (they dont appeal to me from an aesthethic point) 🤣
Usually I would tend to Integra 92 or Civic 15. Maybe Renault Trophy 11 if its aero kit is strong enough.
- 570
- NRW
- apaul3133
@Meythia : thank you very much for Sharing your Setup of the R35! I could not replicate fully because of an additional weight reduction that the ballast could not equalize.
That thing is very fast but I like most how direct you can steer now. A vast improvement and finally a sub-21 lap time for me! 😀
Only to demonstrate how different our cars are/were I show my settings in the following. Don't try this at home! 😅
Once again thank you! I am curious how this round will end...
That thing is very fast but I like most how direct you can steer now. A vast improvement and finally a sub-21 lap time for me! 😀
Only to demonstrate how different our cars are/were I show my settings in the following. Don't try this at home! 😅
Once again thank you! I am curious how this round will end...
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