Audi VS. BMW

[Victor Vance]

I decided to post a few of the hottest cars around just to be a little more friendly and some bottom hole decides to ruin it by saying ''I'm trying to be cool.''Steupes,why don't you go climb a tree and release yourself.Earn your own damn respect.

Alright, I'll lighten up. Anyway, is that 'R34.5' a photo-chop?

 

[1X83Z]

I'm changing my opinion on GTR8: I believe he is indeed the very stupidest person ever. He went from claiming to know and drive everything about cars to claiming to like 'exciting' cars, followed by several pictures of cars with ugly bodykits. His language is crude, he has no idea about sentence structure or any semblance of proper grammar, and his attitude is straight out of sixth grade. When he grows up - post-puberty - he'll realise how ridiculous he sounds right now.

 

[Victor Vance]

Well, with someone on a higher level than me.... uggh, forget it, I'm too forgiving for my own damn good... yeah yeah what M5P said.

 

[spooony]

Alright, I'll lighten up. Anyway, is that 'R34.5' a photo-chop?

Ya, isn't that a really old photoshop of what someone believed would be the "R35"? I remember seeing that pic many years ago.... lol

 

[Victor Vance]

Well, let's be glad this V35 was the final result:

 

[///M]

You also talked about the m5 having a really unique and superior engine...so does the MR...all that so called "Superor engine'' or whatever you call it...makes no sense...because in the end ...its A** would still get kicked..what a loser! You're still forgetting the kind of turbo boost you get from the evolution series..unlike any other...they are of a unique kind.

There is NOTHING unique about an Evo engine. They are everywhere, they are even used in people movers. IF I wanted to buy one, I could pick one up for about 1000 US dollars. Can't say the same about the new V10.

Yes ppl have seen the new M5 ..so what? No big deal...just a modified version of the new 5 series...still ugly as hell.

And the Evo is a modified Lancer. Lets see, a 5 series is aimed at a business/family man, Lancer is for a young chicks/grandma. I know which one I would be choosing.

As for the Skyline having quality, you have got to be kidding. The R34 interior uses bit from older Maximas

And if you wait for the boost to kick in while driving an Evo, you need to learn to drive. But of course, Gran Turismo, where you are basing you assumptions off is a little bit different to reality.

 

[the Interceptor]

@ GTR8:

So you like Japanese cars better than German cars, and that's absolutely fine. Even I like the Skyline and the Evo better than a BMW or an Audi. But that's not the question here, is it?

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[Rue]

I want to know what a 'Skyline GT-R spec 11' is, 'cause it sure sounds super!

 

[Scaff]

One guy mentioned that I have no clue about turbo engines which I do.I was talking about secret weopons in every engine meaning you don't know what to expect in every newer model,you may just assume.Don't just judge japanese cars just like that.They have alot of potential.Bmw has already built a reputation.I was looking at the new Nissan Skyline R34 GTR Spec 11 2005 model and yes its out here.Do you know that its 792 horsepower and gives a 0-60 reading of 3.5 seconds.That was the only car on the drag team to match up with the lamborghini.The Evo was a short distance behind.Try beating that with a German Bmw.By the time Bmw comes out with a new 2006 or 2007 M5, Mitsubishi and Nissan would come out with something better.The 2006 925 horsepower Skyline GTR Spec 111 would stomp the lamborghini and thats trying to go competition with the ferrari enzo.Mitsubishi said that they're coming out with a new 7 speed manual in 2 years time with double the horsepower.You see now its the japanese turn to make a name for themselves.Yes Bmw can give the Evo series some good competition but it definately cannot match with the Nissan Skyline.Top that.

Hi GTR8, its that guy.

Firstly I don't judge Japanese cars with any form of bias, I have worked for a Japanese manufacturer and currently drive a Japanese car. Two of my posts were in regard to statements of fact that you made and I know to be wrong, simply putting you right; sorry if you don't like that.

These were

Besides..the person who is talking about the M5 doing less than 5 secs in 0-60 is full of crap..the only way that could be possible was if you modified it some more..

I call BS on that statement.

Autocar in the UK printed a full road test of the new M5, I have scanned the figures and you can access them by clicking on the gallery button at the bottom of my post (watch out the image in big).

0-60 = 4.6 seconds

Thats measured with GPS dataloging equipment as all Autocar tests are, the figures are about the best true independent one you wil get.

and

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTR8

why do you think we also have an Evo 8 MR....thats not out yet.......

Really MR's of various specs have been out in the UK for over a year now.

Tut tut, more BS

My third post was in regard to a sentence of yours that makes very little sense (to me and maybe a few others).

Quote:
Originally Posted by GTR8

Every car has what they call a secret weapon built into it.When the turbo of each car kicks in,it gives that certain car a special boost that no other car may have.Some cars have twin scroll turbines,others boxer type,others have the turbo with the unique rotary type engines.So don't be fooled by the so called brand names.

OK, now explain exactly what you mean by this, back up what on the face of it appears to be nonsense.

Tell my exactly why a boxer engine is a secret weapon when fitted to a car, what are the pros and cons of a boxer layout, who uses them and why. But most of all tell me why its called a 'boxer' layout.

Come on, show me your stuff.

Now I don't actualy think I said in that post that you did not know how a turbo engine functions, I asked about Boxer engines; its also quite intesresting that you have now even bothered to try and explain. Even if you had to 'google' the answers I would not give a damn, at least you may have learnt something new.

I am (along with a few others) very excitted about these new GTR's you have been talking about. Particularly as you seem to be the only person who has seen them; even the president of Nissan (Carlos Gohn) has said no new GTR before 2006/2007 and with the R34 out of production you seem to know something even he does not). I used to work for the Renault/Nissan alliance in the UK and am surprised that no one I know their has toldme this great news, particularly as I was speaking to a member of the marketing department only last week.

Now what you apear to have failed to realise is that most people on this site are very knowledgable about the motor industry (a number of us working within the industry), most have no particulary bias against any particular marque. You will find very few of the Domestic vs. import arguments here.

We did not dismiss Japanese cars, you are the one who has dismissed BMW's, just to remind you, your first post.

Bmw's are lame looking cars.The only difference is the double grill in the front.

As far as speed and performance...the Audi's are better. The M5's are not worth

the money.You better choose an Audi or Lexus. Plus the back of Bmw's are so

ugly.The 3 series,5 series etc....they all look the same..Get an IS 300 or GS 430..

much better in looks and performance.. If you really want speed ..I mean serious

racing performance...choose an Evolution 8 MR. Its also very affordable. Now

you can't class an M5 to that...EVO baby! Remember just because Bmw's are

German...does not mean that its the best.

Us biased? No, I think you may need to look in the mirror for that one.

On a closing note, I am very interested in this drag team you belong to; could you please let me have details of any website they may have, or details of the strip they run at. I would like to find out more and speak to them with regard to the huge range of exotic cars they have easy access to.


P.S. Don't forget about the boxer engines now.

 

[///M-Spec]

As for talking about evos all I mentioned earlier was that I prefer an audi over a bmw simply because I passed through them and I don't see whats so fun about them,everybody has one and it has absolutely no unique styling.I furthered by point by saying,if you really want speed and performance choose an evo MR. Some dunce nicknamed MSpec started the argument.*

* emphasis mine

Hmm. Another baldfaced lie, just like your drag racing claims. I think it was YOU who dug this old thread out of the dustheap. I know it was YOU who PM'd me FIVE TIMES trying to coax me into a ridiculous coversation about it, even after I repeatedly asked you to go away.

This is your final warning. If I catch you misrepresenting yourself again, you're gone.

And this is a thread about BMWs and Audis. Not Evos. Not Skylines. Not Lexi. If you continue to post in here, I expect you to stay on topic. I won't ask you again.


M

 

[GTR8]

So what are you going to do Mspec? What more can you say about Audi's or Bmw's? Try talking about something a little more different.Speaking about V10 engines,since when ''V'' engines are the best?That is more european style thinking there.Try testing out a new GTR engine.As far as posting pictures,I did not dig them out of some dustheap.Those body kits are not ugly.Most ppl don't seem to think so.They look similar to the M5 body kit.That new pic of the 2005 skyline GTR Spec 11 is out now and thats a pic from the manufacturers.I have not gotten my hands on the 2006 model picture yet though.I suppose you know everything about sentence structure and grammar M5 power.Get off my back about my typing little boy.You don't seem to impress me either.Besides I don't drag race as a career I race once a week.I belong to a club ok?Whats the big deal anyway.You seem to think that you are the most mature person here Mspec.You have not spoken any logic either,as far as telling me about my ridiculous conversations.Are you a women by chance?

 

[///M-Spec]

So what are you going to do Mspec? What more can you say about Audi's or Bmw's? Try talking about something a little more different.Speaking about V10 engines,since when ''V'' engines are the best?That is more european style thinking there.Try testing out a new GTR engine.As far as posting pictures,I did not dig them out of some dustheap.Those body kits are not ugly.Most ppl don't seem to think so.They look similar to the M5 body kit.That new pic of the 2005 skyline GTR Spec 11 is out now and thats a pic from the manufacturers.I have not gotten my hands on the 2006 model picture yet though.I suppose you know everything about sentence structure and grammar M5 power.Get off my back about my typing little boy.You don't seem to impress me either.Besides I don't drag race as a career I race once a week.I belong to a club ok?Whats the big deal anyway.You seem to think that you are the most mature person here Mspec.You have not spoken any logic either,as far as telling me about my ridiculous conversations.Are you a women by chance?

Bye. Don't let the door hit your backside on the way out.


M

 

[spooony]

That new pic of the 2005 skyline GTR Spec 11 is out now and thats a pic from the manufacturers.I have not gotten my hands on the 2006 model picture yet though.

OK, I see he's banned 👍 and this is getting off-topic, but it just hit me that what he calls 2005 Skyline GTR Spec 11 is probably the old Skyline R34 V-Spec II.... lol Note the 11 vs. II

 

[GTR7]

Listen spoony.You are an a**.Just like a 2003 M5,there is a new 2004 M5,There is a new Vspec 11 and you know nothing of it for 2005,the newer Vspec 111 is coming out 2006 idiot.Let me just quickly reply to the person who asked me about the boxer engine.The turbo charged and intercooled boxer engine has a compact symmetrical,horizontally opposed layout,with all its pistons moving on the same plane.The engine enjoys better balance when running.It also sits lower in the engine bay, giving the vehicle the extra stability of a lower centre of gravity.They mostly come in 2.5 litres with good fuel efficiency.Good lower centre of gravity for good front and lateral weight distribution.Yes I did come back as GTR7 from GTR 8.MSpec wants me to hack him for that.Don't think I can't do it.

 

[GTR7]

Concerning the new 2005 Nissan Skyline GTR VSpec 11 model RB26-DETT DOHC-six/ R34 inline 6 with twin turbo,6 speed or in Japan known as N spec 11 2005 model.This new Spec 11 has an N1 based engine.N1 based engine is the homorogation engine for the super endurance race (GR.N) for the best super cars around.The N1 based roller bearing metal turbochargers instead of the standard ceramic ones used in earlier models.This one provides remarkable performance especially at high revs compared with the standard ones.This Nur. edition-N1 based reinforced engine block,N1 reinforced piston and conrods,N1 based piston rigs,exhaust manifold,intercooler rubber hose from N1 technology and the oil pump.These are made at Nissan Racing Engine Division (Nissan KOHKI).They use balanced pistons,conrods and crankshaft ,it is extremely similar to making a real true racing engine.This new model has a "Ripple Controlled Suspension" and yes a softer stabilizer.......The GTR Nur./2005 VSPEC 11 named after the famous track Nurburgring,they develop GTR 32,GTR 33,GTR 34 and GTR Nur(new GTR34 model)They call the vehicle the "Ultimate Driving Pleasure"The interior is totally re-designed with genuine leather and the outer appearance has a more superior design.It was first used in Nurburgring for the 24hr race and super Taikyu race...This is Model GF-BNR34,The transmission is a 6 speed type (GETRAG) 4 wd.Engine type-RB26DETT N1Spec11,watercooled 6DOHC with twin ball bearing turbochargers. An advanced ATTESAA-TS (electic control torque split).THis is for the guy who wanted to know about the VSPEC 11 that sounds cool.In other words the M5 with V10 engine could only have a whopping 510 hp while the Skyline has 792 hp,more superior in many ways.The newer 2006 model would have 925 hp.

 

[GTR7]

If you don't have anything good to say,don't say it,Spoony.As for Mspec,get a life,you're so into the M5,why don't you go make love to it.Ohh yeah,I forgot it didn't come out yet.You have a short wait. Try explaining why you think that it was the old skyline I was talking about Miss Spoony.My friend has the skyline you're talking about,not this one.
This most likely is my last post because I know bullerman MSpec will kick me off again but I don't care,I said my part.Jesus still loves me

Peace 👍

 

[GTR7]

[Note the 11 vs. II [/QUOTE]

Those look like two I's there idiot. This is a 1,put them together you get 1-one,11 two.You're too smart for me! 💡

 

[the Interceptor]

I suppose the worst thing you can do in a forum is to come back and continue to flame people if that is what you were banned for in the first place.

And 11 is eleven, II looks like two I's, but this is Roman numeral.

Cheers,
the Interceptor

 

[Sage]

This most likely is my last post because I know bullerman MSpec will kick me off again […]

Wrong – I did!

Have a nice day.

 

[///M-Spec]

Those look like two I's there idiot. This is a 1,put them together you get 1-one,11 two.You're too smart for me! 💡

Wow. That is sig material.


M

 

[Carl.]

Private Sub MakeMeLookLikeATotalIdiot(Optional IQLevel as Variant = Null)
 
	Dim i as Integer
	Dim Banned as Boolean
 
	For i = 8 DownTo 0
		SuscribeToWebForum("GTR" & i)
		While(Not Banned)
			Banned = PostGarbage(IQLevel)
		WEnd 
 
		If IsBanned(IPAddress) then Exit Sub
	Next i
 
End Sub

I'm too lazy to do function PostGarbage(IQLevel as integer)

 

[Victor Vance]

How many times do I have to say it's better to have mods as friends? They own you, so, be nice to them, because, should you ever end up in a 'heated' dispute or a flame war or something like that, you're already made friends with a mod so he's more likely to take the other side.

Anyway, i still don't Drive. And I'm glad Audi doesn't, either. Cheers

 

[OoNismoO]

[Note the 11 vs. II

Those look like two I's there idiot. This is a 1,put them together you get 1-one,11 two.You're too smart for me! 💡

this is the funniest ****.

i cant believe this guy, he truly does sound like a dumbass.