Auto is better than manual transmission

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From point a to b straight line speed who will reach the finishing line first ?

  • Auto

    Votes: 75 11.3%

  • Manual

    Votes: 587 88.7%
  • Total voters
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freedomweasel
They are "technically" (ie mechanically) a manual transmission. Correct. They are sold as automatics though, and most everyone refers to them as automatics, however, most magazines call them "automated manuals", "semi-auto", or just the trademarked "DSG", "PDK", etc.

Last time I tried to explain my transmission to someone they did this::boggled:. Now when someone asks if it's an auto I just shrug and say "sorta, ya".
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Lol, exactly. Not too many people understand the mechanical differences between manuals and autos. So if a gearbox can change on its own, they call it auto right away even though the mechanisms involved have nothing to do with automatics (in the automotive context).

I hope to get a VW GTI mkVI soon with the DSG so I bet I'll find myself in the same situation haha.
 
absjazz
Lol, exactly. Not too many people understand the mechanical differences between manuals and autos. So if a gearbox can change on its own, they call it auto right away even though the mechanisms involved have nothing to do with automatics (in the automotive context).

I hope to get a VW GTI mkVI soon with the DSG so I bet I'll find myself in the same situation haha.
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I've got a MkV, good car, you'll enjoy it.
 
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shigllgetcha
Is manually shifted auto box not more accurate. you a picking the gears but not manually selecting them
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DSG/PDK/dual-clutch is an automated manual, not a manual automatic. Still no torque converter.

The Lexus ISF (and other auto cars with paddle shifters), however is a manual automatic in that there is a torque converter. When the driver selects the gear via paddle shifter, its a manual automatic as you described.
 
After many many races

Hands down to automatic transmission

It is way faster than manual

Tried tested and proven

My hunch was right after all
 
It depends on the car. If you're driving Keicars you stand to gain 10 seconds per lap by short-shifting to stay in the torque range (just like you'd probably do in real life). If you're driving a car that makes peak hp at redline then auto is typically quicker because you've got less chance of missing a shift. But then again there are times where you've got too much power to keep the wheels on the ground and a short shift will get you planted and running smooth.

But hands down, driving manual is more engaging and fun, even if you do lose a second here and there because of a missed shift.
 
Yes but when it boils down to online racing a second of missing a shift means a lot

Automatic does that for you seamlessly

Do you know you can actually control the automatic transmission just like the manual by using the brake ?

If any one wants to prove we can host a room using the same cars and race it

Slow or fast cars from point a to b automatic will reach the finish line 1st first
 
To the OP. You underestimate how much time manual can give you, you also underestimate how easily people can change gear at the exact perfect moments without even thinking about it.

I dont think about changing gears, i just do it like instinct and it is a completely natural thing, without being able to change gears i would feel almost lost.


I can change gears better than the game can, much better. I NEVER miss a shift.
 
I have been lapping people with 30 seconds or more using automatic so how do you explain that ?

Slow cars you may have a chance but when it reaches 500 hp or more and you use manual against automatic you will be lapped 1 lap down
 
Ok, I'll race you in my civic.

I'll use a manual.

You use an auto box.

I'll shift later on, when the car is producing the most horsepower that it's tiny engine can muster, at much, much higher revs, and you shift earlier, well, you let the gearbox shift earlier for you, when the car isn't making as much horsepower as it can, lower down the rev range, and we'll see whose tiny Honda is faster.

Blimey.

14 pages to discuss something that was stamped out in truth on the 1st page.

:irked:👍
 
godzidane
I have been lapping people with 30 seconds or more using automatic so how do you explain that ?
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They are worse drivers?


You know why i learned manual?


In GT4 i was having trouble golding the S licence test where you drive a Mazda MX-5 around trial mountain, i noticed when i used manual gears i could get more revs out of the engine and i could gain time by being in the right gear at a certain point of a corner.

Due to this i was able to keep the revs up, and even though at that time manual was new to me, i had to think about it and concentrate hard, i was able to gold the challenge that i could not do with the limitations of Auto. That licence test is harder than any of the licence tests in GT5.


Fast forward to now where i have been playing racing games with manual gears for years, i would never even think about going back, you lose too much.

If you're fast with auto, you will be faster with manual.
 
Bigbazz
If you're fast with auto, you will be faster with manual.
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This.

Nice one Baz, that's a good explanation, and should be the definitive answer to the OP's question, but I have a sneaking suspicion, that it won't be good enough.

Come on then God. What's your answer? Want to take me on in two pitiful little VTEC Honda's?

:irked:👍
 
This thread is keeping me entertained. Thank you
 
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I did a little test, although not scientific. On the 1000m stop test at "Top Gear", from the start line to the 1st X on the road, in manual I think it was 82 m.p.h. and in Automatic I reached 84 m.p.h. I tried this at least 8 or 9 time and the result was similar.
 
Because you are trying to prove that automatic transmissions are quicker to race with than manuals....


OK guys! he's showed up!


Results to follow, save me some popcorn

:irked:👍
 
left888
I did a little test, although not scientific. On the 1000m stop test at "Top Gear", from the start line to the 1st X on the road, in manual I think it was 82 m.p.h. and in Automatic I reached 84 m.p.h. I tried this at least 8 or 9 time and the result was similar.
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Now that is really scientific
 
And, I am sitting here waiting to race you in my civic, you come into the room, go to the regulations and select, the NISSAN GT-R.

Kudos.

I am out.

Perhaps people will understand where you are coming from now....

:grumpy:👍
 
absjazz
DSG/PDK/dual-clutch is an automated manual, not a manual automatic. Still no torque converter.

The Lexus ISF (and other auto cars with paddle shifters), however is a manual automatic in that there is a torque converter. When the driver selects the gear via paddle shifter, its a manual automatic as you described.
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Correct.

It is funny trying to explain this to people who don't understand the mechanics of it though. Why do car manufacturers make it so hard for us to explain? :scared: Personally, I'll always take the manually actuated manual transmission (with only one clutch thanks) :)
 
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