Auto v Manual

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I use a DS3 and manual setting is so much more efficient than auto. I also drift and for drifting I think auto is pretty much like suicide.
 
I use it for longer races so I don't spin my tires and wear down them down as fast. Other than that I'm not really into it.
 
JBanton
I use a DS3 and manual setting is so much more efficient than auto. I also drift and for drifting I think auto is pretty much like suicide.
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+1 👍 .

Drifting with a automatic transmission is a nightmare.
 
OP: your lap times might very well improve but you'll have to master the stick shift first... the practice/adjustment period will have lower lap times than the auto trans.

I've always used auto trans so that I could focus my attention on the braking points and hitting the apex perfectly and other nuances -- I always felt like the manual trans requires too much attention, but one of these weekends I'm going to have to spend some hours getting used to shifting the manual. I have played the crap out of GT1, 2, 3, 4 and 5 so it's definitely about time.

GTarded
What is Auto?

I didn't realize there was an Auto option in GT.
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Schwarzenegger
You really are GTarded :lol:
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That's exactly what I thought! LOL Myself, I am "sofa king we Todd dead." :)
 
I use manual myself but contrary to popular opinion, automatic is just fine on a huge number of cars in the game that make all their power up high near the rev limit and have a relatively flatter power curve. The cars it's not suited to are those that have big bump in the mid-rpm range and drop off dramatically at the rev limit, because the auto will always shift around the rev limit. If you avoid those cars you can do just fine with the auto setup.
 
I race using automatic most of the time but i tried manual yesterday and knocked 2 seconds off my best time on cote d'Azur. I used the BMW M5. Im gonna stick to manual gears from now on.
 
madeye
I race using automatic most of the time but i tried manual yesterday and knocked 2 seconds off my best time on cote d'Azur. I used the BMW M5. Im gonna stick to manual gears from now on.
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This and it's more rewarding having more control of what the car is doing.
 
Only sometimes on some cars Automatic can be better if you learn throttle control. Automatic puts you in the right gear and all you need is a little throttle control for the the control and thus, automatic is the better option.

THERE I SAID IT. ANYONE GOTTA PROBLEM?
 
RedPartyhat
Only sometimes on some cars Automatic can be better if you learn throttle control. Automatic puts you in the right gear and all you need is a little throttle control for the the control and thus, automatic is the better option.

THERE I SAID IT. ANYONE GOTTA PROBLEM?
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Yes.

Can you not learn throttle control using a manual transmission? What you just said can easily be achieved on either transmissions, thus, your argument is invalid in the sense that you've proved that neither transmission is better or worse than the other.

You need to expand on your justifications just a little bit more. 👍
 
1241Penguin
Yes.

Can you not learn throttle control using a manual transmission? What you just said can easily be achieved on either transmissions, thus, your argument is invalid in the sense that you've proved that neither transmission is better or worse than the other.

You need to expand on your justifications just a little bit more. 👍
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Manual: I'd have to put myself in the right gear as well as focus on the throttle control.

Automatic: Puts me in the right gear so I don't have to multi-task :).
 
RedPartyhat
Manual: I'd have to put myself in the right gear as well as focus on the throttle control.

Automatic: Puts me in the right gear so I don't have to multi-task :).
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Sure, if you are driving in a straight line.

On a complex circuit, or any circuit for that matter, AT cannot predict, forsee or sense what the driver is experiencing. The car only knows that it needs to shift at a certain RPM/MPH.

The MT driver can easily select the proper gear AND predict what the next turn will bring, allowing him/her to adapt to any gear he/she wishes. :)
 
RedPartyhat
Manual: I'd have to put myself in the right gear as well as focus on the throttle control.

Automatic: Puts me in the right gear so I don't have to multi-task :).
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That depends, I suppose. Shifting manually has become very second nature for many players, so it doesn't necessarily hinder their driving abilities. I, for example, learned how to drive in control using a manual transmission.

On the other hand, if you are completely new to sim racing, then using an automatic transmission should allow you to learn how to drive properly more quickly, as you said.
 
IMO driving is all about being one with the car and having a manual transmission only adds to the connection.
 
Meh, you guys are right yes. I can drive manual no problemo but in certain cars I feel that I can drive faster on automatic and I have proved that to myself from lap times that I can run better with automatic. However, I usually stick with the manual but I just go with whatever gives me the best opportunity to win. I use a DS3. I've seen more than enough people that can drive in automatic with no aids with a DS3 and just absolutely smoke the competition.

My only question is for all the wheel-users, I've never owned a wheel. WHY is it almost a SIN to use automatic on the wheel as compared to it being slightly more "acceptable" for using automatic on the DS3?
 
I just love the sound of the revs going up just a bit more before shifting, getting to know the right moment by listening to different engines, got used to do that in GT2. Than said, everyone must play the game the way they feel comfortable with it.
But I guess most of us would agree the majority of cars loose their peak power range when using auto...
 
Coltenfutbol16
What would that help at all?
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Coltenfutbol16
What would that help at all?
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I think he's referring to the difference that would be applicable to relative auto/manual performance in a real life car. Autos are heavier, have less HP and torque at the wheels (because of the energy used up by the torque converter) Though more modern autos perform a hell of a lot better than older models, its true to say there is a diference. They also burn more fuel than manuals.
 
MSTER232
This shows that the gear you are in affects how the car handles. Personally I think they need to solve this issue because I love go-karts in this game. It's just too bad I have to keep changing my transmission after I drive one.

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Please tell me that you are not being serious here. Using manual is not a cheat because it's what most of the cars in GT5 actually have in real life. Plus I haven't heard of a race driver who uses automatic in their car yet. If for whatever reason I am wrong, then name one race driver that uses automatic in their race cars. And bring proof with you while you do it. Only an American would say something like this.
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Don't be a prick you are talking down to all Americans tell me what makes you soo superior. I completly disagree with the guy who said manual is a cheat... But in your racist eyes I must agree
 
Okay, the guy who said manual is cheating obviously used the wrong word when he said "cheating" or didn't make a well thought out response.
He meant to say that, IN THIS GAME, it is simply more challenging to master throttle control on automatic than just sticking the car in a higher gear while cornering. That's it.

People
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RedPartyhat
IN THIS GAME, it is simply more challenging to master throttle control on automatic
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What? I'm a ds3 user and can't stand auto. It's too easy, just pin it to win it. No throttle control involved.
 
RugerGuy
Deliberately keeping the manual in too high a gear is a poor man's traction control. CHEATERS!:trouble:
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Not my fault it works well. I'll stick to using this tactic.
 
I've had several friends use my wheel and in my experience the more hardcore gamers prefer auto while the hardcore drivers like the manual. I wonder if that's a trend or just among the dozen or so friends that have tried mine? Personally I'm unable to use a control pad because of past injuries to both hands so I only use a wheel. And I really don't like the auto option, to me its just abdicating responsibility to the machine and if I wanted to do that I'd use B spec. The most important point here however, is that people will always drive in the way that best suits them. If someone finds AT more fulfilling good on them. I also don't have a problem with people using RS tyres, if they can drive well enough not to burn them out in 5 laps good on them. Its horses for courses I guess. I think the addition of two words to the stated preference would stop a lot of the squabbling that seems to be going on though. So I'll start; I prefer manual because its better FOR ME.
 
I think manual is a fun challenge that allows you to do more than you can in automactic for example. When your coming to a turn as you down shift you will slow down alot faster
 
Juiposa
Not my fault it works well. I'll stick to using this tactic.
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Umm lol why you're taking it so seriously, dont you see the smile in his sentence ?

As for myself, I find it easier to race in manual and i'm also faster so yeah.
 
I'm really not getting the "manual is a poor mans traction control" bit, mechanically speaking the reverse is true. As anyone who's deliberately tried to wheelspin an auto will testify. The function of the torque converter in and automatic transmission ptevents the spin, much the same as TC does.
 
s15240drifter
What? I'm a ds3 user and can't stand auto. It's too easy, just pin it to win it. No throttle control involved.
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Not true in all cases. If you drive the 650PP+ cars with no traction control, at sharp turns your 'pin it to win it' will put you off the course spun out. :crazy:
 

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