Auto vs. Manual Transmission

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nismo33
Taking a guess here but i bet its mostly yanks that are on the auto boxes
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Not this yank. I won't even look at autos IRL. I'm also quite adept at driving both LHD and RHD and love zooming around England in my mom's (mom is a yank as well but lives in Hampshire) MiniS 6spd.

When my wife needed a new car she hadn't driven manual since high school, I forced her into a manual with a turbo and she thanks me everyday for it.

I even disabled the ABS in My WRX, all aids OFF. ;)

My dad (yank) has never owned a slushbox, I have in the past but hope to never again.

That said I can see why one would prefer full auto using a DS3. Full auto with a wheel is a fail.
 
nismo33
How can you get the corners perfect if you're in a gear that the game has selected for you?
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You know, concentrating on brake markers, and finding the perfect time to turn into the corner, and controlling throttle, without having to worry about changing gear before entering a corner. Having to concentrate on turning only.
 
This is my first GT game. I have been using auto to get a feel for the game. I am gradually taking off the aids, and next thing that I will try is the manual tranny. I like the auto because it's kind of a drive and not worry thing. But i drive a manual in real life, and feel like I am missing out on something. I use the DS3 for my controller.
 
I use auto but hate it! I have the DFGT and my thing is the lack of a clutch pedal and no E-Brake. I cant use the buttons for e brake because when I turn the wheel I can't reach em and I need a clutch pedal, it just feels off without them!
 
SKOT_FREE
I use auto but hate it! I have the DFGT and my thing is the lack of a clutch pedal and no E-Brake. I cant use the buttons for e brake because when I turn the wheel I can't reach em and I need a clutch pedal, it just feels off without them!
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Use the buttons on the back of the wheel, you will get used to it and start improving lap times.
 
PAWEL17
You know, concentrating on brake markers, and finding the perfect time to turn into the corner, and controlling throttle, without having to worry about changing gear before entering a corner. Having to concentrate on turning only.
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The problem is the gear can (and often is) a significantly limiting factor... one that cannot be overcome by throttle and steering control.

To say letting someone else control the gear because you can achieve the best turn with throttle and steering control is like saying my computer will choose how much salt to add to my food and I will just control the heat and stirring speed.

Sorry, but if the salt chosen is wrong, no amount of heat and stirring control will fix it.

Same with gearing, gearing is a very base part of a cars performance... in the wrong gear will kill your power or fight your steering, neither of which can exist if you are to be doing things optimally.
 
PAWEL17
You know, concentrating on brake markers, and finding the perfect time to turn into the corner, and controlling throttle, without having to worry about changing gear before entering a corner. Having to concentrate on turning only.
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Once you're used to manual, you don't have to think about it. It's just a reaction to the engine sound. Its almost like its.. automatic:dopey:
 
I'm slowly making the transition to manual right now. I'm slowly starting to recognize the correct engine note that indicate the time of a gear change, so I don't have to keep my eye on the rev meter all the time. It's a struggle but I think I'll be greatly rewarded once I get the hang of it :).
 
Will27
Once you're used to manual, you don't have to think about it. It's just a reaction to the engine sound. Its almost like its.. automatic:dopey:
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And thats what i am working on, but i have to shake of that itch of constatnly looking at when to change gears.

H0nda
I'm slowly making the transition to manual right now. I'm slowly starting to recognize the correct engine note that indicate the time of a gear change, so I don't have to keep my eye on the rev meter all the time. It's a struggle but I think I'll be greatly rewarded once I get the hang of it :).
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Yeah, what he said.
 
Manual is faster.
Until recently, Manual was always faster IRL, but they had to design vaginal automatics because the people who can afford fast cars can't drive fast cars.

If you've ever heard Jeremy Clarkson's take on paddle shifters, you know my take.
And full-blown AT is 10X worse, IMO.
 
I did AT from GT1 to GT4, once I recieved my DFGT for GT5 I decided to go MT. It looks intimidating at first but it isn't that big of a deal.
 
Warren4649
That thread is fun, shows how much difference there is between real sims and that wannabe sim.
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Kinda gets me down. I can and have won online races with my AT, but get my butt beat when racing in a league. In the house buying process so can't spend anything but this fall I'll have an MT.
 
FishHunters
Kinda gets me down. I can and have won online races with my AT, but get my butt beat when racing in a league. In the house buying process so can't spend anything but this fall I'll have an MT.
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Why can't you use manual?
I know the DS3 and DFGT have shift buttons/knobs, so what did you find with nothing to shift with?
Or do you just mean clutch and six-gate? If so sad to say it won't help you that much, the difference is fairly minor, certainly not enough to come back from "having your butt beat".
 
CSLACR
Manual is faster.
Until recently, Manual was always faster IRL, but they had to design vaginal automatics because the people who can afford fast cars can't drive fast cars.
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Vaginal automatics???

I use manual... But if we had them in the game...
 
jackargent
Vaginal automatics???

I use manual... But if we had them in the game...
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Paddle-shifters, basically.
Any automatic designed to be better than a manual, without more than a hair of ability required to operate.

My main irking with them is being called "manual". Yes you have to manually push a button, no it's not a manual.
A prime example would be in any automatic you can move a lever and dictate what gear your car stays in, and this was never considered a manual, because the transmission changes gear for you.
In a real manual, you literally change gear with a lever, not just tell the car to do it for you.
Done with my rant, continue.
 
CSLACR
Why can't you use manual?
I know the DS3 and DFGT have shift buttons/knobs, so what did you find with nothing to shift with?
Or do you just mean clutch and six-gate? If so sad to say it won't help you that much, the difference is fairly minor, certainly not enough to come back from "having your butt beat".
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Since using a wheel it has become a preference. And since I stopped using the DS3 I stink with it now. I only use it if I want a quick spin around the ring or something and don't want to pull out and set up the wheel. I'm not gonna learn something I'll only use for a few months only to stop using it and train with something else.
 
FishHunters
Since using a wheel it has become a preference. And since I stopped using the DS3 I stink with it now. I only use it if I want a quick spin around the ring or something and don't want to pull out and set up the wheel. I'm not gonna learn something I'll only use for a few months only to stop using it and train with something else.
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It'll get or keep you in the habit of shifting.
Do you really want to get used to a clutch and 6 gate shifter when you're not even used to paying attention on when to shift?
Just saying I think you'll be faster in the meantime, and it'll make the transition easier for you also.
 
The clutch just serves the purpose of slowing you down in GT5. It is so badly made that they could have just skipped it and made some more worth it instead.
 
CSLACR
It'll get or keep you in the habit of shifting.
Do you really want to get used to a clutch and 6 gate shifter when you're not even used to paying attention on when to shift?
Just saying I think you'll be faster in the meantime, and it'll make the transition easier for you also.
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I know when to shift. Not worried about any of it. Just need the proper set up.
 
I use manual mostly, but occasionally resort to AT for things like rallying and when using top-end, stupidly close ratio racing cars where keeping the engine in the right spot using MT is just a pain.
But a lot of the time, MT is necessary when racing either really low powered cars (you need to squeeze every last drop of power) or conversely really high-torque muscle cars like the Monaro, Corvette or Viper. I find these big-engined muscle cars don't need to be revved out as their powerband is quite broad, and also I can use short-shifting to prevent wheel spin (I never use traction control). MT is essential for drifting too.
 
I always have used manual. More control, your car won't shift down when you don't want it to. It can make all the difference.
 

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