B-Spec in GT5

  • Thread starter Thread starter cicohipe
  • 753 comments
  • 157,932 views
my b spec driver is decreasing his performance because I pushed him just a bit to get gold, I honestly hate him, can he retire himself if he wants to?
 
I'm just starting to train up my Bob and have a question:
is it just a case of him needed to reach a certain level before he becomes a decent driver, or is it all a matter fo practice?

So, could I just set him going round and round the Sunday Cup in a Stealth GTR until he's a high level, then let him loose on the rest of the races? Or should I beentering him into a series a number of times with the same car until he's familiar with the car and the circuits?
 
Anyone B-spec'd the historic car cup in expert?

Just cant see how i'm ever going to get passed it .
 
ScouserInExile
is it just a case of him needed to reach a certain level before he becomes a decent driver, or is it all a matter fo practice?
Click to expand...

Yes and no. He becomes much better at lvl10 but he's not awesome or anything.

ScouserInExile
So, could I just set him going round and round the Sunday Cup in a Stealth GTR until he's a high level, then let him loose on the rest of the races? Or should I beentering him into a series a number of times with the same car until he's familiar with the car and the circuits?
Click to expand...

Don't know the definitive answer to this one. At the Extreme level Bob will go from LVL zero to LVL 10 in two races. I don't know how good he really is though since I haven't tried him anywhere else.
 
barryl85
Anyone B-spec'd the historic car cup in expert?

Just cant see how i'm ever going to get passed it .
Click to expand...

I used the Chaparell 2J modded to the max. Be prepared for some frustration on Cote d'azure. I think I ran that 3 times before he won. First time he ran into the wall 4 times in the same spot (little jagged spot after the long semicircle tunnel).
 
I'm a bit lost in terms of B-spec, how much management do you actually have to do for the driver? do i have to tell him to slow down every time he gets to a certain corner and then speed up after it or whats the deal?
 
barryl85
Anyone B-spec'd the historic car cup in expert?

Just cant see how i'm ever going to get passed it .
Click to expand...

I just did it today with the 2j it was all white cars up the front haha

dominic280378
I'm a bit lost in terms of B-spec, how much management do you actually have to do for the driver? do i have to tell him to slow down every time he gets to a certain corner and then speed up after it or whats the deal?
Click to expand...

Making sure he is in a good place in the pack and keeping the bar in the blue so you can give bursts of speed when appropriate, depending on the track I give a burst of speed just as he comes up to a straight so he gets a good run down the straight and can make a pass or 2. If it stays in the red he is messy and angry.

I have a question as well what do the yellow, green and blue arrows mean on your drivers before and after races? (sorry if its a stupid question lol)
 
Last edited by a moderator:
What's odd, is I find my Bob drives much better under red.

At least in these early competitions, I give him a great car, which he should always win with...I set him to overtake at the start, and until he gets to the front...just continuing to press overtake till it's done...then I just let him go for it...he usually builds up a comfortable lead...and goes fully cooool.

Unfortunately, that for him, is basically complacency. He starts braking even more into corners. I watched my Bob get half a laps lead 3 laps into a 6 lap race...and went to do something else...I came back, and he was on the final straight of the race, and finished 4th. I was pretty pissed off. I checked the replay...he made no mistakes, just went too slow with his lead, and gradually lost it...letting cars take his line because he kept braking too early and giving them position.

Anyway...since then, I just make sure I tell him to increase pace once or twice a lap so he doesn't throw it all away...but he certainly seems a better driver while I push him into the red to get in front and build a lead. He rarely makes a mistake, hot or cold...but when he's cold, he's just too damn slow.
 
Cammo1707
What's odd, is I find my Bob drives much better under red.

At least in these early competitions, I give him a great car, which he should always win with...I set him to overtake at the start, and until he gets to the front...just continuing to press overtake till it's done...then I just let him go for it...he usually builds up a comfortable lead...and goes fully cooool.

Unfortunately, that for him, is basically complacency. He starts braking even more into corners. I watched my Bob get half a laps lead 3 laps into a 6 lap race...and went to do something else...I came back, and he was on the final straight of the race, and finished 4th. I was pretty pissed off. I checked the replay...he made no mistakes, just went too slow with his lead, and gradually lost it...letting cars take his line because he kept braking too early and giving them position.

Anyway...since then, I just make sure I tell him to increase pace once or twice a lap so he doesn't throw it all away...but he certainly seems a better driver while I push him into the red to get in front and build a lead. He rarely makes a mistake, hot or cold...but when he's cold, he's just too damn slow.
Click to expand...

AGREED! Seems to get WAY to complacent when cool! They sometimes give up HUGE leads when all blue...I have one driver I rolled, Senna, who is halfway up Red and he is the better, but still when all blue you can't leave the room even if he has a HUGE lead...sucks kinda.
 
YaBoyRob
AGREED! Seems to get WAY to complacent when cool! They sometimes give up HUGE leads when all blue...I have one driver I rolled, Senna, who is halfway up Red and he is the better, but still when all blue you can't leave the room even if he has a HUGE lead...sucks kinda.
Click to expand...

So is the goal to keep him in the middle of the bar? Thats what I assumed, but not sure. When my driver is in the red he's terrible!
 
I don't know...my driver is only terrible in the red if the car is terrible...I was having trouble winning the French competition with my Berlinette...when it should have been an easy win...but he kept spinning out. Splashed out, improved the car, and the angry man did me proud.

I don't think the middle of the bar is necessary...once they have a lead they can be right down the cool end, as long as you occasionally give him a blast telling him to get a move on.

As for the really tough races, he will always be hot, especially with constant instructions to overtake and go faster...but I haven't had too many of those races with a Bob on these low levelled races I'm still competing in.
 
For what it's worth, this is what I've found on B-Spec.

The arrows are increase / hold / and calm down, with a special one for overtake.

IMPORTANT !!!: The orders you give last about 38 second, then they start to slow down again!

They seem to level-up faster if you keep the arrow in the middle of their "mood meter" (the blue to red line.) That white dot between the blue and red is the OPTIMUM driving speed. The more they go into the red, the more they are likely to make a mistake. The more the go into the blue, the slower they get.

They drift back into the blue as time goes by. Look at that as they lose focus. Knowing this, I never bother with the "go slower" (Blue arrow) unless they are making mistakes in corners. This is due to you pushing them too hard, or beyond their ability.

The problem is, the mood meter is also effected by being close to other cars, like from the grid, or in a pack.

What I do, is try to imagine where the arrow would be, if there were no other cars on the track.

Example: Press "go faster" (Orange up arrow.) a couple of times, and maybe overtake to get them through the pack. Do NOT spam the go faster! Then keep them at that increased level, by hitting the "Hold pace" (Level arrow.)

Remember to give an order every 30-40 seconds !!!

Sometimes you need to hit "Go faster" a few times, along with "overtake" when staring a race. but then keep them at that level with the "Hold pace."

Do NOT just spam "Overtake" either. Pick your moments! Sometimes it's better to use a camera attacked to the car rather than the TV one, to see when YOU would go for it. Press "Overtake" ONLY when there is a realistic oppotunity, like a long strait, or a wide bend.

Say you get into the lead? Don't just let them go into the blue and leave them, they will slow down and you will lose the race (nomatter if you have a better car or not.) You need to be on top of them at all time.

I should imagine there are tons of guides like this, but I just wanted to share what I've found, if that helps somebody, Great!
 
if u create a bob in the red line he will make many more fails @ when u push him...

if u create a cool driver... u can go 3/4 red..... realy nice pace realy low fails
 
I've also found that if you hit "maintain pace" like 4-5 times in a row it usually works for a few laps before falling again...shame you have to babysit a 20sec lead.

I was just at least 20sec ahead on a 14 lap race in the Japan Championship on lap 3. I went to get a drink and stuff, and when I came back on lap 11 and was almost being overtaken! THAT imo, sucks?!
 
Yeah, that's my major gripe...a bob should for all intensive purposed act like an AI driver, but amazingly, he finds a way to be worse in a cornering situation...and their lead will get eaten.
 
In addition to giving B-spec drivers short-term tactical commands, it would be nice to be able to assign them a long-term strategy for the race, instead of having to babysit them for every sector of a lap. Or even something like assigning a default behaviour given a specific race condition. If you tell him to speed up on the straights and slow down on technical sections for 4-5 consecutive laps, you think he'd kind of get clue and figure out what you're trying to tell him.
 
My B-spec driver is only at level 3, can someone confirm he gets better as he levels up? or will i have to micro-manage him at every level? If I have to I'm not playing B-Spec any more!
 
Yes they get much better as they level up.

on Level 3 my driver couldn't keep the Dome Zero (160hp?) from spinning out on slow corners @ Tsukuba.. now on Level 7 he can pretty much drift my monster 842 HP Chevelle round those same corners.. a marked improvement. I can only see him getting better in time.
 
dominic280378
My B-spec driver is only at level 3, can someone confirm he gets better as he levels up? or will i have to micro-manage him at every level? If I have to I'm not playing B-Spec any more!
Click to expand...

He gets minutely better, but you still have to micro-manage constantly at the sub 10 levels.
 
sumbrownkid
He gets minutely better, but you still have to micro-manage constantly at the sub 10 levels.
Click to expand...

Does it get better past LV 10? @ LV 8 right now... this is ridiculous.

Don't get me started on the Daytona pick-up truck race. :banghead:
 
sumbrownkid
He gets minutely better, but you still have to micro-manage constantly at the sub 10 levels.
Click to expand...

not a confidence booster! it seems like B-Spec boils down to watching someone thats never played GT5 play it, and you can only yell 4 things at them. Do you at least win good cars for persevering?
 
dominic280378
not a confidence booster! it seems like B-Spec boils down to watching someone thats never played GT5 play it, and you can only yell 4 things at them. Do you at least win good cars for persevering?
Click to expand...

It's worse than that. You can't slap him upside the head when he hits the brakes on the start/finish-line of the Daytona Oval during the pick-up truck race, leaving everyone else flying by... on every lap!
 
sinner
It's worse than that. You can't slap him upside the head when he hits the brakes on the start/finish-line of the Daytona Oval during the pick-up truck race, leaving everyone else flying by... on every lap!
Click to expand...

Seriously? What a strange addition to the game B-Spec is. Its like they said:
"Our AI in this game is pretty poor, how can we show it off?.....I know, we'll make a mode where the users have to watch it"
"Didn't we do that already?"
"yeah but we gave the user the option to fast forward it last time, lets drop that!"
"cool!"
high fives all round
 
dominic280378
Seriously? What a strange addition to the game B-Spec is. Its like they said:
"Our AI in this game is pretty poor, how can we show it off?.....I know, we'll make a mode where the users have to watch it"
"Didn't we do that already?"
"yeah but we gave the user the option to fast forward it last time, lets drop that!"
"cool!"
high fives all round
Click to expand...

Ok, that's funny. I feel your pain. But, I am enjoying B-spec in spite of the frustration my drivers bring. I think the key to B-spec success for those who choose to spend time there is understanding the prompts. Some seem to have a pretty good handle on it while others haven't caught on yet. I'm still learning.
 
Tagger
Ok, that's funny. I feel your pain. But, I am enjoying B-spec in spite of the frustration my drivers bring. I think the key to B-spec success for those who choose to spend time there is understanding the prompts. Some seem to have a pretty good handle on it while others haven't caught on yet. I'm still learning.
Click to expand...

I just don't know the level of management needed, do I issue commands every time the timer on a command runs out or when appropriate? Only being able to issue 4 commands makes me thing the B in B-Spec means "Basic"....
 

Latest Posts

Back