B-Spec in GT5

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Yeah... I don't think B is entirely a bad thing, it's just got a few issues here and there, which can be frustrating. I just got to LV 10 so hopefully things will improve.

And with the basic commands, I try to time it. Like if my guy is a bit further back from the guy in front, you 'pace up' to close the gap. When he eventually does so, I wait till he's on a straight (or some other passable spot on the track) before I issue the 'overtake' command. No point in telling him to overtake tucked behind a car with a bunch of slow chicanes coming up. Time your passes. Dunno if it actually makes a difference but it's worked for me (for the most part).
 
dominic280378
Do you at least win good cars for persevering?
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You do. Like, totally do. The Miata race in the professional series gives you the Furai Concept, for example. The GT World Championship a Zonda R.
Plus, loads of cash while you're doing other stuff. Once you've passed lvl10, you don't really have to babysit your drivers 24/7 anymore.
 
Finally beat the Daytona truck race yesterday with a level 7 driver. I first tried it again stock to see if my driver was better but he wasn't, so I fully maxed out my Dodge Ram to over 700 hp and lightened it as much as I could (was still tuned before but only high 500 or low 600 hp). Took it in the race and destroyed everyone on the first lap, although my driver was still braking at retarded spots. Then one truck, the Toyota, caught up and wouldn't leave my driver alone. Passed him two or three times and I thought he was donezo, but my driver was able to hold him off and won the race. Glad I never have to do that again.
 
My 2nd driver (lvl2) I gave him my R8 (stock) and ended up last in the clubman cup race.
My first driver at lvl7 I think beat everyone in the clubman cup race using my M3 GTR which was stock also. But I really had to babysit him too... had a big lead 15sec+ by lap5 so I left the room coming back when it was lap8 and the 2nd place car was pecking away at his heals :(
 
My 1st Driver (level 9 Presently) just can't complete the Eiger race of the Euro Hot Hatch Championship. It doesn't matter what car i give him; Golf GTi Mk5, Mercedes C63, RUF CTR Yellowbird, TVR Griffith, he just can't win, or even finish in the top 3 for that matter. He either spins out somewhere (yes, even with a FF drivetrain) and follows the exact same line the other cars follow so he just won't overtake when instructed to! It's not an overly difficult track but they way he drives, acting like captain cautious, you would think it was. 👎
 
sinner
Does it get better past LV 10? @ LV 8 right now... this is ridiculous.

Don't get me started on the Daytona pick-up truck race. :banghead:
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Dude, I know! I said before I had to use a fully souped up SVT Lightning, which I still have actually...cost a fortune!
 
Tagger
Ok, that's funny. I feel your pain. But, I am enjoying B-spec in spite of the frustration my drivers bring. I think the key to B-spec success for those who choose to spend time there is understanding the prompts. Some seem to have a pretty good handle on it while others haven't caught on yet. I'm still learning.
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IMO, it's simple, "pace up" until you pass up all other cars, then when the arrow gets to the middle, choose "maintain pace"...not to hard...sucks you have to babysit it with a 40sec lead though...
 
Luminis
You do. Like, totally do. The Miata race in the professional series gives you the Furai Concept, for example. The GT World Championship a Zonda R.
Plus, loads of cash while you're doing other stuff. Once you've passed lvl10, you don't really have to babysit your drivers 24/7 anymore.
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Actually, I'm having to babysit MORE now that I'm level 20!!!
 
One of my most challenging B-spec races to date was on Cape Ring. My driver would easily move into the lead but then he would take the hairpin too wide resulting in entering pit row. I've seen him do this 2 or 3 time during a race. At this point I learned that calming him down well before the hairpin so he wouldn't end up driving down pit lane.
 
Passeyfier
My 1st Driver (level 9 Presently) just can't complete the Eiger race of the Euro Hot Hatch Championship. It doesn't matter what car i give him;
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I was actually surprised the game let me do this, but I entered my Lambo LP640 ChromeLine in this race and my B-Spec mopped the field.
 
I won this race with a heavily modified Chevy Silverado Concept and it still was a close race.

Have you tried using a set of soft compound racing tires?
 
dominic280378
My B-spec driver is only at level 3, can someone confirm he gets better as he levels up? or will i have to micro-manage him at every level? If I have to I'm not playing B-Spec any more!
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They get much better, thankfully! When I started B-Spec, I was using a maxed-out Shelby Cobra a lot. Neither of my drivers could handle it when they started out.
Spent most races on the dirt, grass, sand. It was painful to watch. As their levels got to around 10, I found I was not having to babysit them as much. Since then,
my usual routine in a 6-10 lap race is to set them to Pace-Up as soon as a race starts. My guys tend to pick up a few spots before the first corner. I then watch them complete a lap
on their own in order to see where on the track they have the most difficulty (I'll know NOT to use Pace-UP in that section of track later). During the 2nd-3rd laps,
my guys should be in lead or fighting with the leader. Once he's in the lead, it's a matter of hitting Pace-Up at the right sections of the track and, assuming I've given him
the correct car with the correct setup, he'll run away from the rest of the pack. At that point, I just let him run his own race. Generally, with 2 laps to go, I have to
hit Pace-Up once or twice to "wake him up". There's ususally always that one AI car that will make a run near the end and gains ground. But after a few nudges, my guys
will pull away for the win. They're now at level 15 and in the middle of Expert Series.

I tend to use this B-Spec racing to experiment and determine which cars/setups are the most successful. That helps me later in A-Spec.
 
The first thing I do is always to get the best set of tires allowed.

And about that truck-race that no-one seems to able to grasp. I tweaked the suspension on my truck. Lowered it and firmed it up. I personally wouldn't feel comfortable doing 250km/h with 10 inches of soft travel.
 
I've gotta dmit, I'm impressed with my boy T. Brauer. He's at level 12 right now and won the Ferrari event in the professional series with a lightly tuned 458 Italia. Beat the Enzo by about five seconds, even though he's two levels below the event itself.
 
It's best to test the car first and make it easy to drive before handing it over to Bob.

I had a nightmare with bob giving him a 350HP civic for the FR race, he kept hitting the walls. I test drove the car and realized it was a pain to drive, 1st and 2nd gears were useless, V-tec hits and your scrambling to change gears. Set the HP to 250, changed the gear ratio and viola! A car that is great to drive and fast too. Gave it to Bob and he got the win by a large margin.
 
PD should really explain how B-Spec works because everyone is guessing.

Here are my Bob theories:

1. Extreme cold = drive too carefully Extreme hot = push it to the limit

If you see Bob struggling on a corner then he's pushing it too hard and you should calm him down.
The middle is not always the optimal point. The optimal point is as hot as he can go without making mistakes. On more technical corners you may need to calm him down. On straights you can max him out.

2. The more you push him the quicker he becomes tired. As his strength depletes his driving skills decline. If you see a down orange arrow it means he is tired or low in confidence. Let him rest.

3. I don't believe they "learn" anything. They don't learn tracks or cars. They just get better as they level up. They win more money and of course prizes when they actually win and you learn how to manage them better.

I think it would be really cool if they learned stuff you taught them but I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong.

Am I right about these things?
 
tinram
It's best to test the car first and make it easy to drive before handing it over to Bob.
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Dunno, they seem to have their own preverences. Personally, I think my Zonda R is a pretty handful, but all of my Bobs do fairly well with it - even the lvl 0 one who's winning the MR Sports event with it...
 
MowTin
On straights you can max him out.
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I think it's better to use pace down on the straights (when he's too hot). Since he's going to go flat-out anyway you can get the benefit of cooling him down without loosing any speed.


MowTin
I don't believe they "learn" anything. They don't learn tracks or cars. They just get better as they level up. They win more money and of course prizes when they actually win and you learn how to manage them better.

I think it would be really cool if they learned stuff you taught them but I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong.
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I think they do learn a little. Sometimes I'll put my driver in a car he's never driven before, and he'll lose spots on the first lap. But then on the second lap, he'll start to overtake more cars. He might have just had some bad luck on the first lap, but to me it seemed as if he was learning the car/track.
 
YaBoyRob
Dude, I know! I said before I had to use a fully souped up SVT Lightning, which I still have actually...cost a fortune!
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Well, looks like an LV bump solved that problem. I was at LV 8-9 when I had those issues, but I did some other races, got it up to LV 11 and then went back to Daytona. Definitely a lot better, as he didn't hesitate on the start/finish-line.

Still, there were a couple of laps where I would (furiously) order him to overtake, but instead, he stayed inside of a pack of trucks. There was another instance where he would get a nice tow from the truck in front, but instead of passing he'd stay behind the truck, despite there being room on both the inside and outside of the track to overtake. Ridiculously frustrating.

Ultimately was still able to get me my gold... finally.
 
Luminis
I've gotta dmit, I'm impressed with my boy T. Brauer. He's at level 12 right now and won the Ferrari event in the professional series with a lightly tuned 458 Italia. Beat the Enzo by about five seconds, even though he's two levels below the event itself.
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I finally beat this race in my tuned F430 beating out the Enzo. But, I still don't get how a 512BB, finishing 3rd, was able to keep up with us.:boggled:
 
Eric W
I finally beat this race in my tuned F430 beating out the Enzo. But, I still don't get how a 512BB, finishing 3rd, was able to keep up with us.:boggled:
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Maybe Michael Schumacher participated in the event? :)
Anyways, I read somewhere on here that some of the cars participating in the Clubman Cup were tuned (having higher BHP figures than the stock cars), This might be a similar case...
 
I watched my dude have an absolutely incredible race in the GT Championship today, him in a Stealth Nissan GT-R, the main rival in a Ford GT40 LM, on de la Sarthe. He raced his little retarded heart out, with loads of overtaking between him and the Ford, he didn't mess up once and drove a flawless race. It was like all the hours I put into him were being rewarded.

Even saved the reply to watch again later, it was that amazing to watch :).


Eric W
I finally beat this race in my tuned F430 beating out the Enzo. But, I still don't get how a 512BB, finishing 3rd, was able to keep up with us.:boggled:
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Indeed. That 512 amazes me, how it keeps up with the Enzos and 458s is rather... amazing...
 
I've been having issues with the NA-R Roadster event. Almost every time i go around the second U curve, the mazda spins out. Tried all tires available for that race. Guessing i will have to purchase a customizable transmission among a few other things to keep this car under control... suggestions?
 
ChronicSyntax
I've been having issues with the NA-R Roadster event. Almost every time i go around the second U curve, the mazda spins out. Tried all tires available for that race. Guessing i will have to purchase a customizable transmission among a few other things to keep this car under control... suggestions?
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How much power did you add to the car?
 
Luminis
How much power did you add to the car?
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It was a decent amount, that's why I'm thinking i might have to tweak some of the settings. Currently at work so can't give you the specifics. I might try another Mazda for this event. Might just upgrade the engine and tires then try.
 
ChronicSyntax
It was a decent amount, that's why I'm thinking i might have to tweak some of the settings. Currently at work so can't give you the specifics. I might try another Mazda for this event. Might just upgrade the engine and tires then try.
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If your driver is at the recommended level for the challenge (at least), aa small amount of HP will be sufficient to make him win easily.

The best tyres available, oil change, racing air filter, sport exhaust, sport cat, ECU, maybe a manifold and weight reduction stage one, that'd be enough in most cases and will keep the car controllable. And it will keep your expenses down to a certain degree ;)
 
MowTin
3. I don't believe they "learn" anything. They don't learn tracks or cars. They just get better as they level up. They win more money and of course prizes when they actually win and you learn how to manage them better.

Am I right about these things?
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Not sure I agree with this one. I have one Bob who's only run Daytona/NASCAR (but he's run over 500 miles!) and he doesn't seem to be gaining any "experience". He does level up and all that jazz but his experience bar is woefully small for a level 19 driver.
 

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