Backward Entry Drift - S13 Silvia

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Sweet, I'm still trying to pull one off.

However, on a real world note, I'm a Professional drifter, instructor and international level judge, and if you did that in competition, you would have been marked down massively, as the car washed into understeer mid-corner (the bit in the video where you completely straighten the front wheels). Next time, get on the power earlier and pop the clutch while holding full lock and, with some skill and luck, you'll hold the full-lock drift all the way through the corner :)

Edit: watch the video of Kawabata above and compare it to yours, what he does is drop a gear and go full throttle (to get instant wheelspin), then upshift, and pop the clutch (to build massive wheel-speed), and as a result he stays at full lock :)
 
Sweet, I'm still trying to pull one off.

However, on a real world note, I'm a Professional drifter, instructor and international level judge, and if you did that in competition, you would have been marked down massively, as the car washed into understeer mid-corner (the bit in the video where you completely straighten the front wheels). Next time, get on the power earlier and pop the clutch while holding full lock and, with some skill and luck, you'll hold the full-lock drift all the way through the corner :)

Edit: watch the video of Kawabata above and compare it to yours, what he does is drop a gear and go full throttle (to get instant wheelspin), then upshift, and pop the clutch (to build massive wheel-speed), and as a result he stays at full lock :)

Well yeah, i have the DFGT wheel and do not have clutch (couldnt find it in options either) also the drift is far from the apex too but still its was just under a testrun :P
 
Pretty awsome entry dude, silvia is still a little bit weird to drift i find the FC to be far more reponsive and less twitchy.
 
haha just got gt5 looking for the supra right now to start drifting with.. but have to say very nice drifting.
 
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Ive tweaked this Silvia for a couple of hours and now it feels pretty much perfect!

"locked" diff
race coilovers lowered max
springrate F:8 - R:7.8
damping F:6 - R:6
camber F:-2.8 R:-1.5
toe F:0 R:0.05

Running 328hp, using comford medium on front and hard on the rear.
 
cool

twinturbo are you on Driftworks forum?

also what series have you driven in??

been drifting for 6 years.. I live in Japan.
 
Sweet, I'm still trying to pull one off.

However, on a real world note, I'm a Professional drifter, instructor and international level judge, and if you did that in competition, you would have been marked down massively, as the car washed into understeer mid-corner (the bit in the video where you completely straighten the front wheels). Next time, get on the power earlier and pop the clutch while holding full lock and, with some skill and luck, you'll hold the full-lock drift all the way through the corner :)

Edit: watch the video of Kawabata above and compare it to yours, what he does is drop a gear and go full throttle (to get instant wheelspin), then upshift, and pop the clutch (to build massive wheel-speed), and as a result he stays at full lock :)

so as a "professional drifter" you know that everything you said has nothing to do with the fact that kawabata, along with everyone else with tons of angle, have cut knuckles?

hmm?
 
^^ troof in the angle department... its the new rage in the scene guys are killing it at Nikko Circuit cant wait to get on it.
 
Nice vid. I used to own an S13. Keep 'em comin'...

Nice. It looks like the cars are much easier to drift than they are in Forza 3

I hope you're joking...

Forza 3 is the easiest sim (sim-cade) I have ever drifted in... It's so effortless it's borderline boring...

Drifting in GT5 is not "easier", it's more complex, and much more realistic.



;)
 
cool

twinturbo are you on Driftworks forum?

also what series have you driven in??

been drifting for 6 years.. I live in Japan.

Yes I'm on DW, same name.

I've driven in (in order) D1GB ('05), D1GP ('05), EDC ('06 and '07), Eurodrift ('06), JDM AllStars ('08).

I've judged JDM AllStars ('09 and '10), Toyo Drift Cup (Poland, '10), Drift open (Poland, '10), DriftSeries.NL (Holland, '10).

And I work for JDM Academy and DriftRacing Academy.

So I think I'mreasonably well qualified :D

:)
 
so as a "professional drifter" you know that everything you said has nothing to do with the fact that kawabata, along with everyone else with tons of angle, have cut knuckles?

hmm?
Not all have cut knuckles ;) Luke Fink managed to pull it off this year in Germany in a STOCK R33 GTS-T ;)

You don't need knuckles, on a Nissan you just move the steering rack forwards and, if you REALLY want, change the ackerman to zero by modifying the pickup points on the hubs :)
 
Yes I'm on DW, same name.

I've driven in (in order) D1GB ('05), D1GP ('05), EDC ('06 and '07), Eurodrift ('06), JDM AllStars ('08).

I've judged JDM AllStars ('09 and '10), Toyo Drift Cup (Poland, '10), Drift open (Poland, '10), DriftSeries.NL (Holland, '10).

And I work for JDM Academy and DriftRacing Academy.

So I think I'mreasonably well qualified :D

:)

Good stuff bro I'm the same name on there as well. Trying to move to Europe after Japan. For now im enjoying the drift scene here.
 
Nice vid. I used to own an S13. Keep 'em comin'...



I hope you're joking...

Forza 3 is the easiest sim (sim-cade) I have ever drifted in... It's so effortless it's borderline boring...

Drifting in GT5 is not "easier", it's more complex, and much more realistic.



;)

I honestly find it easier on GT5. Perhaps Forza 3 does make it simpler, but there's something about the way that game controls which meant I just couldn't do it. I'm not great at it here either, but I'm better and enjoying it more.
 
I honestly find it easier on GT5. Perhaps Forza 3 does make it simpler, but there's something about the way that game controls which meant I just couldn't do it. I'm not great at it here either, but I'm better and enjoying it more.

"Simpler" doesn't quite get to the nub of it...

It's half way to being NFS easy...

GT5 just has better weight transfer and feedback from the tires.

Good physics go along way...




;)
 
Not all have cut knuckles ;) Luke Fink managed to pull it off this year in Germany in a STOCK R33 GTS-T ;)

You don't need knuckles, on a Nissan you just move the steering rack forwards and, if you REALLY want, change the ackerman to zero by modifying the pickup points on the hubs :)

can't do that in the game.
 
can't do that in the game.

But you CAN go to 90 degrees, without steering mods, just like you can in real life.

You enter with a mega aggresive flick to get the car to or past 90 degrees. Then dip the clutch, nail the foot brake, hold the car at stall point, drop a gear, rev the engine, then as it's about to regain grip, drop the clutch. I pulled off two backward entries yesterday and a couple the day before. You can only do it if, like in real life, you have a car with balanced grip, i.e. similar grip front and rear so that, when you lock the fronts and rears, the car sits on the 'stall point'.

You probably don't understand what I mean as that's not exactly the best explanation, but with sufficient skill, experience and understanding of the physics involved, it's possible, and easier than you'd think.

Wish I had a capture device and I'd show you. Failing that, if you still don't believe me, my PSN name is as per here, so add me and come skid :)
 
Well yeah, i have the DFGT wheel and do not have clutch (couldnt find it in options either) also the drift is far from the apex too but still its was just under a testrun :P
I was just about to say, us poorer DFGT-ers don't even have a clutch, so we have to drift like we would in those Rice-a-roni automatic 240s, without the clutch.
Thank God for me taking my friends S2000 and actually learning how to drift with a manual for real. Scary as hell at first, I hesitated not to do it.
 
But you CAN go to 90 degrees, without steering mods, just like you can in real life.

You enter with a mega aggresive flick to get the car to or past 90 degrees. Then dip the clutch, nail the foot brake, hold the car at stall point, drop a gear, rev the engine, then as it's about to regain grip, drop the clutch. I pulled off two backward entries yesterday and a couple the day before. You can only do it if, like in real life, you have a car with balanced grip, i.e. similar grip front and rear so that, when you lock the fronts and rears, the car sits on the 'stall point'.

You probably don't understand what I mean as that's not exactly the best explanation, but with sufficient skill, experience and understanding of the physics involved, it's possible, and easier than you'd think.

Wish I had a capture device and I'd show you. Failing that, if you still don't believe me, my PSN name is as per here, so add me and come skid :)


I'll add you. I need a drift instructor and someone to putz around online with. I have an RX7 FD, which I just barely tuned/tweaked, to get it into drift shape. I haven't really experimented with drifting in GT5 yet.

My psn: Liquizon
 
But you CAN go to 90 degrees, without steering mods, just like you can in real life.

You enter with a mega aggresive flick to get the car to or past 90 degrees. Then dip the clutch, nail the foot brake, hold the car at stall point, drop a gear, rev the engine, then as it's about to regain grip, drop the clutch. I pulled off two backward entries yesterday and a couple the day before. You can only do it if, like in real life, you have a car with balanced grip, i.e. similar grip front and rear so that, when you lock the fronts and rears, the car sits on the 'stall point'.

You probably don't understand what I mean as that's not exactly the best explanation, but with sufficient skill, experience and understanding of the physics involved, it's possible, and easier than you'd think.

Wish I had a capture device and I'd show you. Failing that, if you still don't believe me, my PSN name is as per here, so add me and come skid :)

Yes, you can!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_zlrhmo2cw

But the front loses grip and I know it's been considered "washing out." I personally think it's awesome but to each his own. And don't worry, I know what you mean. I drift real cars as well =)
 
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