Basic cornering questions

Ok i first got into the whole GT world from GT3 i beat tht game 100% some how even though i suck ass in turning so my question is and i know you guys have been asked this millions of time "what are basic and advanced ways to help Noobs find it easier to take corners in the game GT4 of course" thanks for your opinions in advanced you guys rock!! is there is already a thread disscussing this please give me the link THANKS AGIAN HAVE A NICE DAY:)
 
1- Slow down, brakes exists..

lol kidding. You should watch touring racing and learn from that. Also, watch the IA cars, follow them around the tracks or follow the black marks in the curves. Since I've follow the black marks, I've became better and better :)
 
If it's settings your after though, check the settings forum linked at the top of the GT4 forum, theres loads of tuning guides in there.
 
Robvernon_17
Ok i first got into the whole GT world from GT3 i beat tht game 100% some how even though i suck ass in turning so my question is and i know you guys have been asked this millions of time "what are basic and advanced ways to help Noobs find it easier to take corners in the game GT4 of course" thanks for your opinions in advanced you guys rock!! is there is already a thread disscussing this please give me the link THANKS AGIAN HAVE A NICE DAY:)
The license tests are the best place to start. If you are struggling then watch the demo to get an idea of the line and speeds. Watching the demo again after an attempt will let you see your ghost with the demo car. If your car jumps ahead of the demo on the entry to a corner only to have the demo pass you on the exit, then you are braking too late for the corner.

If you have more questions don't be afraid to ask.
 
Robvernon_17
"What are basic and advanced ways to help Noobs find it easier to take corners in the game GT4?"
There is only one simple answer to this and that is to keep practicing and get a fell for how different cars handle. I agree with Mick777, that you're best bet is to persevere with the licence tests... although you only need to get bronze in each test in order to get the licence, try getting the silvers and golds as well - this way, you will get to grips with the full range of cornering techniques in a range of differently powered and weighted cars...

For a comprehensive description of how to tackle the licence tests, check out this great guide from The Missing Link (and other contributors...)

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=64913&highlight=gold
 
I guess trying to take Gold in the Licenses worth only if you're perfecting the skills. A silver is ok to get grips with the handling and how it differs from GT3.
And the best way to learn is.. well, practice. When I got GT4 I couldn't take a simple turn without making many corrections of speed and the lines. :crazy: After a week I was cruising through the races. :dopey:
Best tip, be SMOOTH with your input (especially turn in/out and braking). 💡

And try to take out slow cars first, in the begginers hall and some one make races (in japan if you can, they have many types of cars). And only then move to the fast cars and race cars...

hope it helps 👍

ps. ASM and TCS always 0, unless you REALLY need it to keep on the road
 
Robvernon_17
Ok i first got into the whole GT world from GT3 i beat tht game 100% some how even though i suck ass in turning so my question is and i know you guys have been asked this millions of time "what are basic and advanced ways to help Noobs find it easier to take corners in the game GT4 of course" thanks for your opinions in advanced you guys rock!! is there is already a thread disscussing this please give me the link THANKS AGIAN HAVE A NICE DAY:)

This works on almost any car on any track - when you're entering a turn, watch for the rubber marks on the track to help you brake correctly. Once you find your car slow enough to take the turn (it also helps to watch the track map very often to see how sharp the turns are), well...turn in, and when you think your car has passed the apex, slowly apply the gas and gradually turn out of the turn so you don't lose all of your speed due to sliding. P.S., It also helps to know all of the tracks like the back of your hand. There are only 2 problems you have to solve: your confidence - if you tell yourself you can't make the turn, you won't. Oh...and, if at first you don't succeed, try, try, again. Now, the second is that if you're driving a heavy car with bad brakes and 900 horsepower (ex. the tanker), then you would have to brake earlier than the rubber marks, and vice versa for slow cars with good brakes. Hope this helps.:)
 
All aforementioned info is good. Just practice. That's the best advice I can give you. Have a good one, and welcome to GTP.
 
I can solve 85% of your problem with two words:

Brake earlier.

Start by noticing which brake marker you're currently using. My guess is it's the last one, if you even notice which one it is. That's exactly how I used to drive.

Then, once you know where you are braking now, move it up to maybe the 2nd brake marker; much earlier. Alternately, get ready when the "suggested gear" indicator pops up as you approach a turn, then squeeze the brakes on as soon as it starts blinking. This is not foolproof at all, but it does give you a general indication of the proper braking point.

It's OK if your slower this way. Taking a turn at lower speed is still quicker than plowing off the outside into the kittylitter. Use a lower powered car with good solid handling - the BMW 1 series is great, or the Lotus Elan - and drive for smoothness. No big control inputs, no sawing the wheel, no stamping the brakes and matting the throttle.

Once you have a handle on smoothness, speed will follow.

And it all begins with 2 words - brake earlier. Once you have complete control all through the turn, and are no longer hanging on and hoping for the best, you can begin to brake later, bit by bit, until you reach the best braking point for carrying you velocity as far as possible down each straight without losing time by having to scrub that excess speed off through the turn.
 
Hopefully after Duke's 85% solution, and wise words above, I can help with the other 15%!

There is also no substitute for learning the track, which can understandably be a painstaking process, try to do it lap after lap, concentrating on the first turn to begin with, once you have that sorted, try to remember where the next turn appears, and whether it's going to be a left or a right, and get yourself over to the optimum braking and turn in point, and repeat until you have a perfect turn 1 & 2 combo, then go after turn 3 etc etc. Sounds painful, I know, but once you know a track like this, the less you'll be surprised by a bend time after time, and the more smooth and quick you'll get.

For example, if you take turn 1 at Laguna Seca, the sharp left hairpin, and find that you're able to negotiate the turn, but are exiting quickly on the right side of the track, but then consistenly forget that turn 2 is a right hand bend which requires that you approach from the left side of the track for an optimum braking an turn-in line.
Practice this until you can exit turn 1 and easily move across the the left before turn 2, it may be that you exit turn 1 slightly slower, but since you're now set up for turn 2 properly, you'll be able to take that turn quicker, and as a result be quicker overall for the 2 turns together.
If you do this throughout the lap, and learn to string all the corners together on a good line, you'll find that your overall laptimes improve even if your cornering speed for a particular bend is slower than you've taken it before, only to find yourself way offline for the next one, and end up digging yourself out of the sand or bouncing off the Armco!

With the number and variety of tracks in GT4, it's an arduous process to learn every bend on every track, but believe me, it will pay enormous dividends in the end. The Nurburgring itself with 170-odd bends is going to take you a long time to get spot-on!

If you haven't already, check out the WRS some of the times from the top drivers will astonish you, but if you have a MAX drive and are able to download some of their replay laps, and try to follow them, you'll find that you are able to learn from their optimal lines, and you'll be stringing together near perfect laps in no time, even if you can't keep up!

In short, if you can avoid being surprised by every other bend, and leaving the track, you'll improve massively in a fairly short timespan, but do pay attention to what Duke and the others have said about braking earlier than you think, fast in = slow out = slow laps. Slow in = fast out = fast laps.

If you can pick a braking marker, not necessarily a 200m marker since they're not always present on every bend of every circuit, but use track shadows, or landmarks at the side of the track such as buildings, barriers, rumble strips or trees, then you can hopefully, begin braking at the same point for a turn lap after lap, and you'll improve! Practice makes perfect.

Hope this helps. :cheers:
 
hey man welcome to GTPlanet :) yeah as Smallhorses said... one of the most important things in the game is learning the tracks. if you learn the tracks you will become better and better at playing. You will be able to judge where the corner is, when it's coming up, etc... this is very very very useful on nurburg since there are quite a few blind corners and a few corners that end up going from fast to very slow at the apex. Bergwerk for example ;)
 
One important thing that no-one seems to have mentioned!!

Try to do all or most or your braking in a straight line before you get to the corner!
As you get better at setting the cars up try to set up the diffs so the car will turn in a little under braking. When you get the hang of braking in a straight line without weaving allover before the corner your car will be more stable in the turn and it will be easier to drive smoothly through the corner. When you set up the car to turn in a little under braking you will be able to do your straight line breaking just a little later, hold the brakes for a split second as you turn in then while still turning get back on the power and drive through the corner.
Try driving some of the dodge vipers and other powerfull RWD cars...they will teach you to brake in a stright line...If you brake while weaving in one of those your gonna be spinning before you can say "what the HELL".

Another tip for when you get better at set up is to set up all your cars to "oversteer slightly. A car that oversteers can always be corrected with the steering wheels since its mostly the back wheels that will spin out...A car in understeer cannot be corrected because its the steering wheels that are skidding so what ever way you steer you will still skid in the direction that you were pointing when the car started to understeer. The only way to correct understeer is to ease of the accelerator or even brake till the car slows enough to get good front wheel grip again....Not a good formula for high speed driving.

I find most of the "Stock" cars in the game drive terribly till i give them a tweak. For example without adding any torbos and such i can get 10 secs a lap just setting them up to a predictable oversteer.
 
Other than "Break earlier/brake on the skid marks." I have found one of the best non-licence test ways is to simply race against your ghost. The ghost car can give you a great sense of what areas you did faster/slower and which way works best.
 
STLbarcelona5
Other than "Break earlier/brake on the skid marks." I have found one of the best non-licence test ways is to simply race against your ghost. The ghost car can give you a great sense of what areas you did faster/slower and which way works best.
Yeah.. that's a good way to memorize the tracks and to see where the best line is. I've done that a few times and it really helps 👍 Good point!
 
Robvernon_17
Ok i first got into the whole GT world from GT3 i beat tht game 100% some how even though i suck ass in turning so my question is and i know you guys have been asked this millions of time "what are basic and advanced ways to help Noobs find it easier to take corners in the game GT4 of course" thanks for your opinions in advanced you guys rock!! is there is already a thread disscussing this please give me the link THANKS AGIAN HAVE A NICE DAY:)

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