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As you say, pop in for a few rounds. Had a go at Gun Master tonight, I like that, quite different from the rest of the game. Though trying to get kills with the JNG90 is a PITA.

Difficult to say right now whether it's worth it, as I've barely played much of it, but I think I'll get enough out of it till Armored Kill to justify the £10 it effectively is with Premium (as I had already had B2K).
 
Sureboss
As you say, pop in for a few rounds. Had a go at Gun Master tonight, I like that, quite different from the rest of the game. Though trying to get kills with the JNG90 is a PITA.

Difficult to say right now whether it's worth it, as I've barely played much of it, but I think I'll get enough out of it till Armored Kill to justify the £10 it effectively is with Premium (as I had already had B2K).
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Forget the JNG it's the launcher before the final level which is the worst, it's the LVG M320 and nobody hangs around long enough for you to get anyone so it just becomes fire randomly until some sucker runs into it. Things like that, the spawns and the general way in which you end up on low levels and some guy charges around with a 12 gauge and blasts you in to oblivion which annoy me. The competitor in me can't deal with the randomness of it, just like I hate card games for the same reason that I don't have enough control over the outcome.
 
I can't comment on the maps specifically as I can't play them until Monday, but I'd imagine a squad of Assaults with one Support is a good way to go. I've spent a fair bit of time today playing SQDM and we had two engineers on the squad... Needless to say they were about as effective as a chocolate oven and we lost, a lot. I also think on close quarters maps like Bazaar and Metro there's no reason to use medkits because no one will be sitting still long enough to benefit, it's better (to my mind) to fight until you die and then get revived with full health, healing when you're injured just slows things down too much. Supports are necessary for ammo kits because if your medics are smart you won't even see the spawn screen (unless you glitch like I did several times today). I also think Recons are a bit of a waste because their weapons aren't suited to CQB, the spawn beacons will probably be useless because the maps aren't huge and there will probably be squadmates alive to spawn on, the T-UGS will be confusing (as mentioned), the MAV won't have room to move and the SOFLAM... Well. Engineers are also pretty useless unless they're planning to spam RPGs everywhere, so I'm sure they'll remain common, but a serious squad wouldn't bother because an M320 will be just as effective.

In other news, I finally unlocked the L85 today (not the L86, I got that yesterday) after months of extremely half-hearted struggling to win SQDMs, which is a long, boring story. I love the L85 though, but I'm not sure if that's because I'm sick to death of the F2000 and the terrible accuracy (which is oddly a huge bonus at close range), because I haven't used any other assault rifles lately or because it took way more effort to unlock than any other weapon. It just feels very accurate and has nice, clear sights, kind of like the AUG actually because I quite like that one too. The L86 is also quite good but I really miss the semi auto fire that the other magazine fed LMGs have, but apart from that I quite like it.

I think my favourite guns per class now go like this:
Assault - L85 for big maps, AEK for small ones
Engineer - SG552/G53 probably
Support - M27 or M60 depending on what I'm doing, but I usually use PDWs
Recon - Mk11 Mod 0 for aggressive (the M417 might change my mind, though), L96 for sniping
Shotguns - Saiga 12K, though the M1014 is also nice and I've never used the Mk3A1 or SPAS 12
PDWs - Probably the P90 but I really want to like the PDW-R... I just don't seem to do well when I use it, but that might just be circumstantial.

I've just realised there are a lot of handguns I've never used. As I've starred the .44 and REX I've moved on to the next best thing, the M1911, but I haven't gotten on well with it just yet.


Oh and one more thing to finish off what is already quite a long reply, has anyone else noticed one of the Premium bonuses is 'Bonus content drops', and it looks like there will be three. I'm hoping one will be an M1 Garand as an all class weapon, I really miss that gun.
 
Yeah I noticed the bonus drops I do wonder what they are.

I agree with the 3x assault and 1x support mix. I wouldn't say I'd play this exclusively because then I might as well buy Black Ops again but it's a great getaway for a few games from standard BF.

If you play BF a lot premium is absolutely worth it but it is the cost of another game so as others said base your decision off that.
 
CMvan46
Yeah I noticed the bonus drops I do wonder what they are.

I agree with the 3x assault and 1x support mix. I wouldn't say I'd play this exclusively because then I might as well buy Black Ops again but it's a great getaway for a few games from standard BF.

If you play BF a lot premium is absolutely worth it but it is the cost of another game so as others said base your decision off that.
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Yeah, I wouldn't start playing CQ only but I don't play Call of Duty any more so it's nice to have the option of some tighter, faster-paced infantry combat on purpose-built maps that are better than Metro, especially if you get sick of being killed by vehicles over and over (that happens to me a lot). I think I might've said this here already but the only things I liked about Call of Duty were the pace of the combat and the verticality of the maps. The killstreaks, perks, net code and general weapon imbalance were what put me off it in the end, but BF3 doesn't suffer from those so much.

I think £40 is a reasonable price for Premium, as long as you're sure you'll want all the content. I know I won't want another game like this until it's dead or BF4 comes out (probably) because I love the huge maps, vehicles, gunplay, teamwork and all the rest of it so the more content I can get, the better. I'm really hoping the bonus content is new guns, though, as odd as it may sounds that will really swing it for me. I can't think of what else it will be as videos, strategy guides, assignments and camos are all mentioned separately to bonus content and nothing else I can think of can be considered 'content' nor can it be used in games with non-premium players (vehicles are out, in other words). Maybe they will be the developer weapons, but maybe that's just too much of a slap in the face for non-premium players?
 
Somebody said that a while back that they could be DICE weapons since we were already given the knife? Good possibility I'd say.
 
From what I have heard from you chaps, there is isn't enough to swing this DLC drop for me, which rules out Premium too.

Unlike B2K which had the FAMAS for example as very different weapon to pre-existing ones, as well as maps that had both Rush and conquest options, these weapons all seem same-samey, and the maps are limited in appeal too.

Bring on Armoured Warfare.
 
neema_t
I've just realised there are a lot of handguns I've never used. As I've starred the .44 and REX I've moved on to the next best thing, the M1911, but I haven't gotten on well with it just yet.
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All I can say is the M1911 Suppressed sits proudly on top of my Battlelog weapons list, I only deviate for CQ (G18 suppressed) and shotgun classes (.44 Magnum). I have a strong affinity to the weapon so I went with it as soon as I got the game and I've never looked back. Having played so much Recon it's been used like a primary at times and no other pistol does it for me even though statistically it's probably not the best.
 
Dragonistic
All I can say is the M1911 Suppressed sits proudly on top of my Battlelog weapons list, I only deviate for CQ (G18 suppressed) and shotgun classes (.44 Magnum). I have a strong affinity to the weapon so I went with it as soon as I got the game and I've never looked back. Having played so much Recon it's been used like a primary at times and no other pistol does it for me even though statistically it's probably not the best.
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I think I'm just used to the revolvers now, I remember earlier on I was trying to kill a guy with the M1911 and only shot him twice, for some reason I thought 'yep, my work here is done' but he was still alive... I have no idea why I didn't shoot him until he died, I guess it's because it would've been highly irregular for someone to survive that if I'd been using the REX or .44 so I suppose I just need to get used to having to use more bullets. I also noticed that I wasn't shooting very quickly because I'm also used to the revolvers' slower rate of fire. I want to like the M1911 though, I'll stick with it for a while.
 
Mike Rotch
From what I have heard from you chaps, there is isn't enough to swing this DLC drop for me, which rules out Premium too.

Unlike B2K which had the FAMAS for example as very different weapon to pre-existing ones, as well as maps that had both Rush and conquest options, these weapons all seem same-samey, and the maps are limited in appeal too.

Bring on Armoured Warfare.
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These weapons as a group are much better than the Karkand weapons. I would go so far as to say they are awesome
 
Speedy Samurai
These weapons as a group are much better than the Karkand weapons. I would go so far as to say they are awesome
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Agreed! Gun Master is quite fun and exciting! The guns are far better than the Karkand guns.

Mike, you have to use the PKP to complete an assignment. ;)
 
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I'm scared to play Gun Master now..... I've played it twice, both times digging myself into a hole but eventually coming back to win the game. Makes me wonder how long until I lose one.

(side note: last time I said I got a double kill with the launcher... i didn't realize you only needed one kill with it. I thought it was two so after only getting kill(s) from one shot I assumed a double)
 
I thought Premium was a new CD release which includes everything, kind of like Bad Company 2:Unlimited Edition. Then i found out it was a servicve like COD ELITE.

So my question is: Is it worth it? Is it worth risking my credit card, just so I have a little bit of an advantage over others?
 
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I thought Premium was a new CD release which includes everything, kind of like Bad Company 2:Unlimited Edition. Then i found out it was a servicve like COD ELITE.

So my question is: Is it worth it? Is it worth risking my credit card, just so I have a little bit of an advantage over others?
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Yes. Think about it, without premium you pay 75euros for all expansions; with premium you pay 50euros for all expansions, plus you get some bonus content, etc.

See the additional content that you will get if you buy premium.
 
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Speedy Samurai
These weapons as a group are much better than the Karkand weapons. I would go so far as to say they are awesome
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Patrick
Agreed! Gun Master is quite fun and exciting! The guns are far better than the Karkand guns.

Mike, you have to use the PKP to complete an assignment. ;)
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:grumpy:

Still, paying like $25 effectively for 10 new weapons, 2 of which I wont use (recon).

:ouch:

Maybe i'll change my tune when I start getting killed a lot by these weapons ;)
 
Trust me Mike, the new recon weapons rock. I think the M417 is better than the SKS for running around with a semi-auto DMR, and the new bolt action (for whatever reason) works better for me with lower-powered scopes than the other bolt actions. So much fun.
 
Mike Rotch
From what I have heard from you chaps, there is isn't enough to swing this DLC drop for me, which rules out Premium too.

Unlike B2K which had the FAMAS for example as very different weapon to pre-existing ones, as well as maps that had both Rush and conquest options, these weapons all seem same-samey, and the maps are limited in appeal too.

Bring on Armoured Warfare.
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It does depend what you want, Mike. In terms of CQ, I think it does a much better job than any of the CQ stuff that already exists in the game, but is it better than 3 of you rocking up in a tank? Or dealing death in a chopper? No. I like it, but it's not better than the big, open and intense affairs you get on Gulf, Wake, etc.
 
M1911 Suppressed is the way to go. 3 shots and the tango's down.
I got mine by linking my origin account to www.gunclub.ea.com so I don't actually know if it's unlockable by simply leveling up, as I had it from the start.
 
Changed my mind about a million times about premium before going for it, and have to say that I'm actually glad I did.

BF3 still has a number of issues that annoy the hell out of me, the biggest one I had hoped the patch would have fixed, which is flagging servers than are not running standard, however making that optional was just daft in my opinion.

However the CQ maps make a nice change and are very, very well put together and balanced. They also seem to suit me well, with my best match ever in BF3 being a totally standard Ziba Tower match which with a shotgun saw me go 23-13. Never got close to a score like that in the past.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/battlereport/show/49033864/4/192652322/
 
Not sure what they did to Battlelog in the last few days with the update, but when I logged in now, my accuracy has dropped >2% from 5 days ago for no apparent reason :indiff:.
 
Smilenator
Is Gun Master a free for all or is it still team based?
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It is team based, but there is only 1 clear winner (everyone else gets You Lost message at the end of the round), although when you look on battlelog the team where the Gun Master was is labeled as "winner".

The downside of this mode on private servers is that you can be kicked when you're doing too good. Happened to me twice already when I was leading by 4 levels and people didn't like it. Quite frustrating since I still didn't win a round of GM.

About DLC weapons:

My favorites at the moment are M417 (foregrip + laser, no sights!) which is absolutely great for all close quarters engagements (Bazaar, Seine, Karkand etc). It's efficiency in taking out targets is really significant while hip firing. Recoil is so nice that the second shot usually results in head shot.

2nd star of this DLC is SCAR-L. I love guns like that. A lot of punch with almost no recoil when you practice your "trigger happiness". ;) Best suited for mid range engagements or quick peek-a-boo around a corner due to its incredible accuracy.

AUG is OK, sights are major downside for me and I still haven't unlocked Kobra or Red Dot so my playstyle suffers because of lack of peripheral vision. Not very good on smaller maps due to average rate of fire (AEK is still the king in such situations).

SPAS is as good or even better as it was in BC2. If you like shotguns you'll like SPAS. Extremely efficient as support with C4 in Conquest Domination mode or running it as engi to complete Wrench Wielder assignment.

ACW-R looks like it can be very interesting alternative for engineer class BUT I have no "force feedback" on my dualshock when shooting it! Very weird feeling and I don't like it (plus weird 27 ammo magazine with or without a bullet in a chamber). I'll use it longer after the rumble issue will be resolved.

Can't say much about LSAT and L86 since I rediscovered PKP due to Premium Assignment and absolutely fell in love with it. Foregrip + default sights + extended mag + (very important) woodland stripe camo + hip fire mode = 2 or 3 triple and quadruple kills in 1 round. Just look for tight spaces with high density of enemies. Like lockers area in Metro. :)

p.s. Getting a kill with EOD bot doesn't look very easy. At least you can control that little thing much easier than before (no more Alpine A310 on comfort hard tires handling!).
 
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Had a few rounds of Gun Master, and I have to say it's intense! Had a great time and I felt compelled to send a few "Good Game!" or "Awesome Duelling!" messages because it was so fun :D
 
Mike Rotch
Not sure what they did to Battlelog in the last few days with the update, but when I logged in now, my accuracy has dropped >2% from 5 days ago for no apparent reason :indiff:.
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Mine dropped by about 4%, but my accuracy as measured by BF3Stats has stayed the same. Might be that they have removed things like Javelins from the accuracy stat.
 
mr_geez
p.s. Getting a kill with EOD bot doesn't look very easy. At least you can control that little thing much easier than before (no more Alpine A310 on comfort hard tires handling!).
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I was just in a Metro match, with RU stuck just past A trying to fight around that U shaped bend in the ticket hall when I got killed by a EOD. I thought the guy was a genius, but it looks like he was just turning an assignment in!
 
Been super busy this week with exams in my final semester of uni ever, :eek: so finally had a chance to jump on tonight. Had the patch preinstalled so was straight into it.

First game, Damavand Peak, jump in the tank, drive to B, freeze.
Second game, Wake Island, jump in a buggy, drive to B, freeze.
Third game, Seine Crossing, jump in the LAV, kill a few people, LAV gets destroyed, freeze.
Fourth game, Canals, getting baseraped, jump in a boat, go to C, take C, Freeze.
5th game, Seine again, freeze within five minutes.
Next game, Bazaar, same thing.
Next game, Kharg Island, this one I got to play for about 15 minutes, we were taking their gimme at A and I was in the tank, getting some heat from the heli so a random tank shell gets sent, I miss, but I hit him with the canister and kill the pilot. Heli crashes right in front of me and then so does my PS3...

Tl;dr, this game is now more unplayable than ever. 2 hours and not one round completed.

Oh and Battlelog put my accuracy down 5% to 18.3%. BF3stats shows it at 23.5%

Terrific.

Such a shame EA wont be getting my $90 as I was a sure buy
 

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