Battlefield vs Call of Duty

[terminator363]

Battlefield emphasizes teamwork and really puts you in "battlefield"...large maps, tanks, helicopters, vehicles...

Call of Duty is nothing but a Counter Strike HD on where players are scrambled all over the map killing each other...

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Call of Duty seems to be, well, just eliminate the enemy team individually while Battlefield seems to have a team work idea. Also Black Ops seemed rushed because the devs knew that the if it's cod the people will buy it: "Let the baby have it's bottle. BF3 looks wonderful, doesn't look rushed and gives me the same feeling I got when I saw GT5 for the first time.

 

[Shigegaki]

Battlefield 3 > COD, end of story.

 

[Ru-fus]

Being someone who has really only started getting into and playing FPS games in the past year on console, and the first game i played was Black Ops, and now have been playing BC2. I've played Black ops for a much longer time against BC2 (several months v. several weeks) and honestly already i prefer BC2 of the two, both SP and MP on BC2 are better.

SP story campaign is a lot better on BC2. As for MP, the games are different yeah, CoD maps are smaller, more flat out action, plus you have perks etc, BC2 definity has a more realistic feel to it, grenades etc will destroy buildings etc, you have to compensate when aiming at targets a long distance away (normally aiming a small bit above the actual target in order to hit them) and yes it requires more team work.

Its nearly like comparing NFS against GT, NFS has the arcade racing feel to it, while GT is the real simulation. In this case CoD has the arcade-ish feel to it, while Battlefield has the realistic simulation.

But I'd pick Battlefield easily regards of my short FPS gaming time.

 

[Pakt Sardine]

I'm not really an FPS fan, but I do love Battlefield. I find it a lot more involving than COD, which just seems like a run 'n' gun shooter.

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

Much prefer Battlefield. Nice mix of arcade with sim-like factors. Great replay value, with some serious 'OMG, OMFG! Did you SEE THAT?' teamplay moments.

 

[Scaff]

No they don't. 3:2 pulldown converts playback to 60fps for Blu ray. 24fps doesn't sync to your TV, think about it? Pro scan? remember that?

To record 24p material onto a 60i format (i.e. any NTSC-based format), pulldown is typically added to 'pad' the 24 frames into 60 fields. This is done by taking every frame and splitting it into two fields. Then, every second frame has one of its fields duplicated, resulting in three fields. The fields are then played back in that pattern – 2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3 … and so on. The resulting video becomes a 60i stream and can be displayed on NTSC monitors. However, the aesthetic of 24p motion is retained and the footage does not have the motion of typical 60i video.

Unless you happen to have a HDTV or projector that runs a True 24p mode in which case the BR player will quite happily output 24p and the TV display it. Pulldown is only carried out by the BR player if the TV is not capable of handling a 24p input./

I also love how you totally ignored the links I provided.

Seriously are you not aware of the number of TVs and projectors that are able to handle true 24p?

It also completely ignores the rather clear fact that cine projectors run 24p and have done for decades, which kind of nulls you argument that films may be shot in 24p but are never shown that way.
Oh look - http://www.fproj.biz/pdf/kinoton/FP50D_engl.pdf


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[ShylockHolmes]

Its like talking to a brick wall. V-sync causes a delay in what you see on screen, so the inputs you make are delayed due to the screen syncing up and thus showing your inputs slightly late. it is not always a problem because the delay is very small but any pro or high level gamer (FPS, Sim Racing, MMO's) will have V-sync turned off.

This isnt something new, or something that I just made up, it is well known and you can easily find it with a quick google, have you been living in a cave or something?.


Really, i must stop allowing you to troll me with your ignorance, lest the thread get locked.

Stop talking about Vsync, I already told you it has NOTHING to do with what I am talking about. I'm not talking about synchronizing the framerate to my monitors refresh rate.

Maybe learn to google Killzone 2 controls or FarCry 2 controls and then compare them to Crysis, CoD, Halo controls which are butter smooth. That is if you get google in your cave?

On topic BF's controls are a deal breaker for me which is the same reason I stopped playing FarCry2 on the PC and hated KZ2 on PS3 even though I beat it on veteran.

 

[Bigbazz]

Stop talking about Vsync, I already told you it has NOTHING to do with what I am talking about. I'm not talking about synchronizing the framerate to my monitors refresh rate.

Maybe learn to google Killzone 2 controls or FarCry 2 controls and then compare them to Crysis, CoD, Halo controls which are butter smooth. That is if you get google in your cave?

On topic BF's controls are a deal breaker for me which is the same reason I stopped playing FarCry2 on the PC and hated KZ2 on PS3 even though I beat it on veteran.

You still don't get it. I don't know how i can spell it out more clearly, do i have to draw you a picture?

Vsync on

Mouse ---- wire ----- computer ---- program ----- Vsync ----- small time delay ---- screen ----- eyes.

Vsync off

Mouse ---- wire ---- computer ---- program ---- screen ---- eyes



Off is smoother, faster, more reactive because there is no delay on the screen output. Even if there is screen tearing, your mouse will react faster with it off.



Googling your subject brings up this thread and your posts to the top of the list, along with a whole bunch of pages talking about the frames per second performance, nothing else.

 

[ShylockHolmes]

Unless you happen to have a HDTV or projector that runs a True 24p mode in which case the BR player will quite happily output 24p and the TV display it. Pulldown is only carried out by the BR player if the TV is not capable of handling a 24p input./

I also love how you totally ignored the links I provided.

Seriously are you not aware of the number of TVs and projectors that are able to handle true 24p?

It also completely ignores the rather clear fact that cine projectors run 24p and have done for decades, which kind of nulls you argument that films may be shot in 24p but are never shown that way.
Oh look - http://www.fproj.biz/pdf/kinoton/FP50D_engl.pdf



Scaff

My HDTV is 60hz. My new one will be 480hz. I never commented on theatres because I don't care, most of them have pretty crappy quality so I wait to watch the HD version at home.If you're saying the theatres often look like crap, then I agree 100%. The last movie I saw in a theatre was avatar in 3D.

Anything running in just 24fps would appear jerky, especially on say a PAL 50hz set. 2X24=48 and that creates the jerky motion.

 

[Shokz]

I have facepalmed at ShylockHolmes' posts so much i feel like turning off my computer and curling up into the fetal position... I'll just comment on one thing before i give up on life:

"most of them have pretty crappy quality so I wait to watch the HD version at home" - Cinema's display films at a higher resolution than 1080p.

Oh, and also; Call of Duty 1, 2 and 4 were good, but not quite as good as Battlefield 2, 1943 and Bad Company 2. Bring on Battlefield 3.

 

[mmpotroast]

This is a great poll. I can't decide. I have only played MW2 and BO. I haven't played any Battlefield games. I will say this: The BFBC3 trailers look amazing. They are the type of thing I am looking for more than in COD. MW2 had some larger maps, and I loved that. Black Ops has these miniscule maps, though and it stinks. I also don't like the fact that in COD, nobody works as a team. It is every man, woman, and child for themselves.

Just today, I was playing demolition on Black Ops and whenever I got the bomb, my teammates would stay behind me instead of clear the way in order to reach the destination and plant it. It was very frustrating to be the only one concerned about an objective while everyone else was worried about getting a million kills. These idiots were even leaving the bomb in an open area and they would get cover and just pick opponents off who went for the bomb.

I can't really vote for the poll, but I think I'll be going with Battlefield 3 in November instead of Call of Duty.

 

[DMC_S2000]

are we really going to do this debate in terms of technical point of view? there's so many talks about vsync....

 

[terminator363]

I'm proud of this thread.

 

[DMC_S2000]

This is a great poll. I can't decide. I have only played MW2 and BO. I haven't played any Battlefield games. I will say this: The BFBC3 trailers look amazing

the incoming Battlefield game is not labeled "Bad Company" unlike BFBC1 and BFBC2....so its only BF3...

 

[MarinaDiamandis]

the incoming Battlefield game is not labeled "Bad Company" unlike BFBC1 and BFBC2....so its only BF3...

Or rather, the two are different series by the same company.

Battlefield is the more realistic game.

Bad Company is a more far-fetched, jump-in experience.

 

[Scaff]

My HDTV is 60hz. My new one will be 480hz. I never commented on theatres because I don't care, most of them have pretty crappy quality so I wait to watch the HD version at home.If you're saying the theatres often look like crap, then I agree 100%. The last movie I saw in a theatre was avatar in 3D.

Anything running in just 24fps would appear jerky, especially on say a PAL 50hz set. 2X24=48 and that creates the jerky motion.

Your words....

Movies are recorded at 24fps, but are NOT PLAYED BACK AT 24fps, big difference!

...I don't see you making a distinction between any playback medium here at all and that still ignores HD sets that play back at 24hrz.

They do not play at 50 or 60 hrz, but true 24 when fed a 24hrz signal. They may not be common but they exists.

Combine that with cine projectors and your blanket statement that movies are not played back at 24fps is simply not true.

Now get back on topic and cut the attitude, because it has no place here at all.

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[ivoyared]

Battlefield.

Call of Duty is just a generic multiplayer shooter with 16 dudes shooting each other (and sometimes flying) in a map the size of a shoe box. Oh, and a 2h story mode as a bonus.

 

[Akira AC]

This thread is right on target,As for my personal view,I see that Call of duty games were better than BF games,there is not denial that games like MW2 and WaW were better than BF bad company games,but when DICE makes games based on PC,rather than consoles,generally involves some greatness,in this case a lot of things that can be notice from the "fault line trailer",as for example the tank battle segment and the air combat segment,these segments shows reminiscent of BF2 features,I still play BF2 to this day(project reality to be precise)and I belive that BF3 will be better that any COD yet to be released.

The reason for this is simple,the battle scale,in COD games you are restricted to only use weapons in small environments,something that is been constantly repeated and has got old,while in BF games you have a bigger environment to play with,this potential was wasted in the Bad company games but this potential is never wasted in BF PC versions like BF2 and 2142(which wasn't as good as BF2).

I think that DICE learn their lesson when they develop the MoH 2010 mutiplayer,which was really good for consoles and feature some of the element from BF PC series,based on this and the experience from other PC version of the game I can assure that BF3 will be better that any COD to come,at least in the next couple of years.

 

[ShylockHolmes]

Your words....



...I don't see you making a distinction between any playback medium here at all and that still ignores HD sets that play back at 24hrz.

They do not play at 50 or 60 hrz, but true 24 when fed a 24hrz signal. They may not be common but they exists.

Combine that with cine projectors and your blanket statement that movies are not played back at 24fps is simply not true.

Now get back on topic and cut the attitude, because it has no place here at all.

Scaff

Mine plays back at 60.

 

[Scaff]

Mine plays back at 60.

So its gone from movies don't playback in 24hrz to you can't play them back in 24hrz.

That's rather a difference, but given your clear desire to defend points even when clearly wrong not one I am surprised by.

Films can be played back at 24hrz, cinemas clearly show that, move on and your next post in here best be on topic.

A reminder...

You will, if asked by a representative of the forums, cease posting any content.

...I'm asking you to end this discussion in this thread (start a new on in the correct place if you must) and should you ignore that, an infraction will follow.


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[ShylockHolmes]

So its gone from movies don't playback in 24hrz to you can't play them back in 24hrz.

That's rather a difference, but given your clear desire to defend points even when clearly wrong not one I am surprised by.

Films can be played back at 24hrz, cinemas clearly show that, move on and your next post in here best be on topic.

A reminder...



...I'm asking you to end this discussion in this thread (start a new on in the correct place if you must) and should you ignore that, an infraction will follow.


Scaff

You keep going off topic. Movies play back at 60 using 3:2 pulldown. Thanks. AVS forums, try them Maybe the English Language forums to so you actually read what I said instead of putting your words in my mouth.

CoD has smoother controls. Thanks.

 

[Scaff]

You keep going off topic. Movies play back at 60 using 3:2 pulldown. Thanks. AVS forums, try them Maybe the English Language forums to so you actually read what I said instead of putting your words in my mouth.

CoD has smoother controls. Thanks.

Your were warned, you made the choice. Infraction issued and good-bye.


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[Stephen220378]

Battlefield for me. Call of Duty games can be fun sometimes though when you just want to switch your brain off and run around like a headless chicken shooting everything that moves.

 

[xXKingJoshXx]

Battlefield obviously.

 

[BoneSawTX]

Battlefield, COD was fun for about 30 mins then the run and gun and across the the room knife attacks got old. Battlefield series is the only one i play now, but have been thinking about getting into Arma.

 

[terminator363]

I really thought there were more Call of Duty players here on GTP