Beater or Sleeper? GT6 Car of the Week Thread

Discussion in 'Gran Turismo 6' started by McClarenDesign, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. 05XR8

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    I made a pseudo Erebus Motorsport V8 Mercedes Benz E63 AMG V8 Supercar a while back. With no 6th gear, it just made the car so bad. I tried.
     
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    The funny thing is, on the track, the C63 isn't that much quicker than the E55. At Mid-Field, the difference I got was less than half a second.
     
  3. Baron Blitz Red

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    I would agree with you as well... I think the only good race I had that night was at Ascari, where I had quite the fun battle with Monty, aka @Soyuz 77, which I thought was a bit on the strange side considering the C63 is about 200 kg's less.

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  4. McClarenDesign

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    Congratulations All Your Base!
    You've won this week's selection, what'll it be?

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    It's the 2001 Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD)!!!

    I'm surprised that we haven't before now. Great choice. And yes I know the one pictured isn't the exact same year and model, it's better. So shut up!
     
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    Ahhh, I've the fondest of memories for NFS ProStreet... especially the drag racing! I might be one of the few old school NFS'ers that actually REALLY liked this game, but I did. Way fun on PC hooked up on LAN.

    Cheers
     
  6. Neddo

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    It's a great car!
     
  7. McClarenDesign

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    The rest are uploading right now. Stay tuned.
     
  8. MidFieldMaven

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    Well I don't know if there's a conspiracy or what, but you guys keep picking cars I haven't tested yet at Mid-Field :sly:

    Both Dom (Vin Diesel) and Han (Sung Kang) would be proud of this weeks' pick, as they drove RX-7's in the Fast & Furious series.

    In GT6, the Bathurst comes in your choice of three colors: Sunburst Yellow, Innocent Blue Mica, and Pure White. Personally, I don't care for the shade of blue...

    What separates this Bathurst edition from other RX-7's are its self-leveling shocks.

    Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01
    1.3L
    289 hp / 6,500 rpm
    243 ft-lb / 4,500 rpm
    1,260 kg (2,778 lbs)
    462 pp

    After about 20 attempts around Mid-Field, including ~12 restarts, here is my best lap time:


    ^ Top speed 140 mph.

    Cars within +/- 0.500 seconds:

    1:21.731 - 485 - BMW Z8 '01
    1:21.738 - 470 - RUF 3400S '00
    1:21.773 - 490 - Nissan C-West Razo Silvia '01
    1:21.830 - 489 - Maserati GranTurismo S '08
    1:21.874 - 488 - BMW M3 Coupé '07
    1:21.910 - 521 - Cadillac CTS-V Coupe '11
    1:21.922 - 518 - Audi RS 6 Avant '08
    1:21.933 - 509 - Lexus IS F '07
    1:21.939 - 462 - Amuse S2000 R1 '04
    1:21.971 - 440 - Lotus Elise 111R '04
    1:22.147 - 503 - Jaguar XFR '10
    1:22.174 - 470 - Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C '09
    1:22.226 - 462 - Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01
    1:22.227 - 459 - Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02
    1:22.232 - 449 - Spoon S2000 '00
    1:22.233 - 509 - Mercedes-Benz SL 55 AMG (R230) '02
    1:22.260 - 469 - BMW Z4 M Coupé '08
    1:22.292 - 484 - Jaguar XKR R Performance '02
    1:22.386 - 470 - Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX STi Spec C (Type-II) '04
    1:22.587 - 460 - Lotus Evora '09
    1:22.664 - 471 - Subaru S206 NBR Challenge Package '12
    1:22.673 - 499 - Mercedes Benz C 63 AMG '08
    1:22.687 - 475 - Tommykaira ZZ-S '00
    1:22.710 - 478 - Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII RS '03

    The RX-7 Spirit R '02 is only 0.001 seconds slower :eek:

    I wouldn't quite call the RX-7 a sleeper based on how it looks, but the fact that it's got a rotary and squeezes almost 300 horses from 1,300 cc's (over 200 hp/L) makes it a winner to me. It also has excellent handling. Oversteer is easily controllable and doesn't happen often unless you're really trying. This car is a sweetheart.

     
  9. CTznOfTime

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    I leave you guys for a couple of weeks and looks what you have done?!

    Not only have you gotten back to the Japanese car, but the picture you decide to post is the least appropriate pic:
    - a fake one
    - one from another car game

    This RX-7 has so many photos of classy ladies on the internet. It's the Pimp of cars !

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    Can't i leave you all unsupervised ??!



    These are some of the other better choices:
    https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5475/14545431816_d2d70fd6bb_b.jpg
    https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6059/6301558665_2c72f3edcc_z.jpg
    http://d3qvyul2tp4j8.cloudfront.net/i/VonGk80mp_.jpg
    http://www.rx7club.com/attachments/...ts-looks-like-absolute-ass-wowdragonmscf9.jpg
    http://d3qvyul2tp4j8.cloudfront.net/i/VonGk80mp_.jpg
    http://contentdb.devmoco.com/media/images/557b5defb9f75.jpg
    She hid the car somewhere??: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5135/5541672826_62fa7312f1_b.jpg

    Mama-san:
    https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/31/15/dd/3115dddc45efa3c9ee48990c8f35979c.jpg
     
  10. All Your Base

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    I tested the RX7 whether to see it was beater or sleeper. This test is where I compare it to two other cars within it's PP range on Tokyo R246 to see where the victim ends up.

    Tokyo R246 Time Trial Test:
    For this test, I decided to pit the RX7 against t the Honda NSX Type R '92 and the Nissan Fairlady Z '08 . I run DS3 with manual transmission, sports hards, 2 TCS, ABS 1, and nothing else. Let's take a look at each of the cars stats before I test the cars. *Spoilers* all three beat the E55 in the Tokyo time trial test.

    Mazda RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01
    PP: 462
    Displacement: 654x2 cc
    Power: 289 HP
    Torque: 243.0 ft-lb
    Drivetrain: FR
    Aspiration: T
    Weight: 1,260 kg

    Honda NSX Type R '92
    PP: 463
    Displacement: 2,977 cc
    Power: 284 HP
    Torque: 225.6 ft-lb
    Drivetrain: MR
    Aspiration: NA
    Weight: 1,230 kg

    Nissan Fairlady Z (Z34) '08
    PP: 461
    Displacement: 3,696 cc
    Power: 331 HP
    Torque: 269.3 ft-lb
    Drivetrain: FR
    Aspiration: NA
    Weight: 1,530 kg

    Starting out with the RX-7. It handles like a dream, with it's oversteer very easy to control. It felt like I was zooming along the track while driving it. It's brakes, unlike last week's atrocity, was very good. This car is a great multipurpose tool, good for racing, drifting, dragging, cruising, etc. You name it, this car can do it.

    On to the NSX. It is a great car, but it does take quite a bit of practice to control the oversteer. If you can, however, this car is a rocket. It will keep up with anything even into the 490 PP range. This car is an awesome car for those who can handle this beloved beast.

    The Z34 has some understeer despite being FR, but it's a pretty decent car. This car was about a second or two behind the other two, but if finely tuned, it is really good. This too is a pretty good multipurpose car, just not as good as the RX7.

    Lap times:
    NSX Type R '92: 1:58.333
    RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01: 1:59.441
    Fairlady Z (Z34) '08: 2:00.324

    Verdict: I wouldn't call it a sleeper, as it is an RX7, but it definently is not a beater. It can keep up with anything (even the multitude of NSXs) within its PP range. The numbers don't lie. Is it worth it? Yes. It is a great multipurpose car. You name it, it can do it, and it can do it right.
     
  11. Draggon

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    Despite the Merc driving like a real boat in the wet at Spa, and despite the several trips I took into the wall at Eau Rouge, it was an immense amount of fun! And sorry to the guys that Ol' Bilbo took out in the process. He gets pretty excited when the flag drops. I shall have to have a good talking to with him.
     
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    And some previous CotW winners, just for good measure.



     
  13. JackRyanWMU

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    Some things in life are certain, such as "Death" and "Taxes." Add to that list, "Given two nearly identical cars, the COTW selector shall always choose the Standard model over the lovingly crafted Premium one." :p

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    I'm pretty certain they're doing this just to annoy me now.
     
  14. McClarenDesign

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    No.

    I see your 1:59.441, and raise you a 1:56.521.


    Here are the other vids from last week. Enjoy.





     
  15. MidFieldMaven

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    Someone should run the Bathurst at Bathurst (Mt. Panorama)
     
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  16. Vic Reign93

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    If I know MC, it's a foregone conclusion that one of the races will be at Bathurst. :D
     
  17. McClarenDesign

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    The Real Inception Simulator.
     
  18. All Your Base

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    I am not the best at time trials, my time trials need improvement. :D
     
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  19. McClarenDesign

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    I used to run 10-lap stints at 3 tracks, w/ 3 cars, daily. I'd pick a track, run a FF for 10 laps, then switch to a MR or FR. After a few months, you'll figure things out.
     
  20. Cowboy

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    This is neither a beater or a sleeper. It's just a legendary sports car :D
     
  21. BadgerVadge

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    I JUST LOVE THE SOUND OF THE BATHURST RX7. it sounds kinda like a V8 to me, but i guess its because of the different port setup that gives it that sound. i use it for 500 to 550pp and its perfect. great balance, braking and sunburst yellow looks perfect
     
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  22. RobboGTAddict

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    OFF TOPIC: I saw this driving to rehearsal last Saturday. On the left is our friend Eau Rouge/Radillon, on the right is the Teconic State Parkway North in New York, just before Route 6. Do you see it too?
    TeconicEuRouge.jpg
     
  23. Draggon

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    Great spotting that Rob!
     
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  24. Neddo

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    There are thousands of roads and turns reminiscent of Eau Rouge
     
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  25. Baron Blitz Red

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    Lag Crashes Tokyo High Hopes!!!


    I was enjoying a decent lead when all of a sudden, from out of nowhere...

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    Impact Imminent!!!

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    Aftermath...

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    I knew I got hit... smoked right out of contention, but I can't blame the driver because watching the video replay told the real story. It was lag pure and simple. Thanks Ted!

    Cheers
     
  26. Racer283

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    Yeah I was wondering what happened there in that race because on my screen I saw you suddenly turn right and I ran into you. I'm not sure after I disconnected last night if I was having a lot of lag problems or if it was the servers. With every race everything appeared fine but with special route and Tokyo there seemed to have been some lag spikes. We can all blame it on Ted. lol
     
  27. Draggon

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    I wondered what happened when I saw those tires flying around :lol:
     
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    @Racer283 , you're one of those people I have absolutely NO issues with as I've noticed you're one of the good clean racers, and I've raced with you enough to know it.

    On my replay, it showed when we were approaching turn 1, you were behind me, then suddenly you slammed into the tire wall, did a 360, jumped a few car lengths in an instant, and you were in your second jump just before I snapped that first photo. When I first felt and heard any impact at all, we were down on the straight before turn 2. It was a doozy too, cause all of a sudden I had red lights for 3 tires, and the engine brightly flashing.

    You weren't the only one lagging either, as I saw both in front of me and behind me in multiple races people zipping around in multiple directions that would make the SRT X VGT look slow. :lol:

    Cheers
     
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    Is it just me or is that green RX7 semi-premium :odd:
     
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  30. Baron Blitz Red

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    What makes things hard to judge concerning "semi-premium" is that custom wheels are premium or very close. In my opinion, I consider semi-premium cars to be standard exteriors with premium interiors as seen with a number of open cockpit LMP race cars. I say in my opinion because I don't know the true definition tbh.

    Cheers
     
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