Been doing iRacing for a year, and just can't take GT6 seriously...

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

The thing I can't fathom is that for the total cost of a good quality rig, good steering wheel and pedals, good monitor set up (3 seems to be common) and a subscription to iRacing as well as maybe buying a few cars and tracks, you could have just gone out, bought an old roadworthy MX-5/Miata for £600 and gone to a trackday. Admittedly, I'm basing my theory off of the most expensive possible options for sim racing and the absolute cheapest possible car you could get on to a track and have fun with, but still, why anyone would spend that much to emulate track driving when they could just go out and do it is beyond me.

 

[sporkface69]

The thing I can't fathom is that for the total cost of a good quality rig, good steering wheel and pedals, good monitor set up (3 seems to be common) and a subscription to iRacing as well as maybe buying a few cars and tracks, you could have just gone out, bought an old roadworthy MX-5/Miata for £600 and gone to a trackday. Admittedly, I'm basing my theory off of the most expensive possible options for sim racing and the absolute cheapest possible car you could get on to a track and have fun with, but still, why anyone would spend that much to emulate track driving when they could just go out and do it is beyond me.

Because unlike real racing you don't have to pay for gas, tires, entry fee's, wear and tear on your car etc. I have a bit over $1000 into iRacing and I am a 100% content owner, with a g27 and a good PC and a decent rig. You can't even touch a race car for that kinda money, let alone actually go and race one.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The thing I can't fathom is that for the total cost of a good quality rig, good steering wheel and pedals, good monitor set up (3 seems to be common) and a subscription to iRacing as well as maybe buying a few cars and tracks, you could have just gone out, bought an old roadworthy MX-5/Miata for £600 and gone to a trackday. Admittedly, I'm basing my theory off of the most expensive possible options for sim racing and the absolute cheapest possible car you could get on to a track and have fun with, but still, why anyone would spend that much to emulate track driving when they could just go out and do it is beyond me.

Well let's put your theory to the test, can you find a $600 roadworthy Miata, and then spec roll cage, tires and so on. Because this perception that everyone goes out and uses a 3 monitor/tv set up isn't true, there are some that do it with GT as well but it isn't the predominate norm. There are even videos of race car drivers that swear by iRacing using a normal rig that doesn't feature three tv set up. A little research and asking questions will help show you this.

I'm not saying to pick Iracing over GT or vice versa, I couldn't care less what people do in that regard. What I'm saying is there is more to the story and ideas or what you've heard from friends or in passing.

 

[JogoAsobi]

Does anybody else share this issue? GT5 was THE racing game/sim when it showed up. Then I tried iRacing.. and left GT behind. I bought GT6 for old times sake, but just can't get into it. Just wondering if anybody else is the same?

So why didn't you post this in the iRacing section?
I guess you came back down here to spread the gospel?

Or maybe its your way of taking the edge off of what was an unwise purchase in your case?

Assetto Corsa and GT6 might be a bit more of an Apples to Apples comparison.
Last time I checked, iRacing is subscription-based, pay-for-content as you go model.

Assetto Corsa, Game Stock Car, & rFactor appeal to me because they are less regimented than iRacing.
Not knocking iRacing, nothing comes close in its genre/market niche, having spent some time on it.

Just seems to be strange to post it where you know it will cause consternation.
That is already evident by the responses you have received.
Mission accomplished I guess.

 

[devildog666]

It's a forum and if anyone wants to intercede/join in and say something directly quoting you they can, if you have issue with that you may want to read the AUP, or block content from all members. Unless I'm violating AUP me commenting on something you or anyone else said even if not directed at me is perfectly fine if you have an issue with that you can report me.

My point is, you didn't like my op to him so you came in like Sir Lancelot to save the day. I'm sure he appreciates it.

 

[driftnick13]

I haven't tried the latest tyre model in iRacing but last time I played it still had issues with feeling what the car is doing, leading to a lot of wtf moments, the racing can be great but it's hard to just log on and do some races without having to wait around for the next race to start.

Games like Assetto Corsa and Live for Speed are much better at having a natural feel, driving a car isn't as hard as some sims make it out to be, for me this is a big thing because I drift a lot, LFS atm is the closet thing to real life drifting that you can get.

GT5-GT6 has a lot of wtf moments, having the car snap back mid drift and thinking why did that just happens really puts me off, it doesn't natural at all and I really have to change my driving style to be able to do decent drifts which drains the fun out really quick.

Gran Turismo: The Real Driving Simulator

Never said anything about simulating racing...

If it was made to be a good driving sim then it would make a good racing sim, it's all the same thing...

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

If I could combine:

• the lighting, overall visceral experience, the car geek love oozing from every corner of the Gran TUrismo series with
• the physics, force feedback, the race anytime, organized, amazing racing from iRacing

I would be very happy.

iRacing feels damn serious and you drive accordingly. Unfortunately, all the good I love about iRacing is matched by an equally sterile and passionless experience. It is brilliant, but it is also clinical.

I guess I could say I want to race in iRacing, but I want to drive in the world of Gran Turismo.

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

I don't really play PC sims, so no; I don't feel the same and I don't think that would change even if I gotten more into PC racing sims. I just like having a game that gives me a wide selection of cars that I can modifiy to some extent and just have fun.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

My point is, you didn't like my op to him so you came in like Sir Lancelot to save the day. I'm sure he appreciates it.

I didn't come in like anything, or to save anyone day. I disagreed with what you've said you're now acting like an ass because I said anything at all. It's a forum, if you have issues there are many things you can do to avoid them, like not join a forum where thousands of people can comment on what you've said. You want to continue this do so in private because I'm sure a Mod will break this up soon enough.

 

[Rdp616]

If i'm not mistaken GT also calls itself a "sim".

 

[deltarider209]

this thread bores me..yawn

 

[MagpieRacer]

iracing is boring. I feel exactly the opposite. Poor and short selection of cars, no proper single player mode, etc

Poor? Boring? Short selection of cars? I presume you have never tried it then? Ok it only has 39 cars to Gran Turismo's 1200, all are accurate sound wise, physics wise and look wise. All have templates for liveries. But speak to some iRacers and they will tell you that is bordering on too many. You have to learn each car/series to perfect it, I had every piece of content up to July 2013 and yet still predominantly only drove 2 perhaps 3 cars (Gen6 NASCAR, Kia Optima and Class B Impala). Also it has 66 tracks, not including variations, pushes that number over 100. All laser scanned. I find people who say its short on content and short on fun either haven't tried it or gave up because it wasn't as easy and Gran Turismo.

Don't get me wrong I love GT6, but labelling iRacing as boring, especially when compared to the quality of racing in GT6 is just blind.

And obviously it has no single player, it's an online game. Yes it's subscription based but the quality you get in return is unparralelled.

 

[jjaisli]

So why didn't you post this in the iRacing section?
I guess you came back down here to spread the gospel?

I think it makes perfect sense to post his comment here. He's asking a question of those who purchased GT6. After going the PC route and playing PC sims for the last few years, and having also recently bought GT6 and also finding a lot of disappointment with the offline game, I had similar questions and feelings. You probably won't find too many people in the iRacing section who just went back and bought GT6. At least, not by comparison. I can think of a few people who used to race in my GT5 league who went the iRacing route and basically haven't turned on the PS3 since. Actually, I was one myself until about a month ago.

It was a reasonable post and didn't seem to me like it was being provacative. If people aren't mature enough to discuss the merits of both games openly, that's not the OP's fault.

 

[GregOr1971]

Have fun with iRacing if it suits you. It is a good racing game,but to compare it with GT ? Aples and oranges , Hmh

Add.: Let's asume that PD make GT7 a game with ony 30-50 fully simulated premium cars. Would It still be GT? Would people (not only racing driving nuts who like iR,pc,AC ... ) buy It if It woud be like that?

 

[jjaisli]

Have fun with iRacing if it suits you. It is a good racing game,but to compare it with GT ? Aples and oranges , Hmh

Add.: Let's asume that PD make GT7 a game with ony 30-50 fully simulated premium cars. Would It still be GT? Would people (not only racing driving nuts who like iR,pc,AC ... ) buy It if It woud be like that?

If they would make such a game for the PS7, do a much better job of specifically simulating those 30~50 cars and really concentrate on getting them right, you bet I WOULD buy it. 👍 But that's not necessarily what the GT series has historically been about.

 

[MagpieRacer]

Have fun with iRacing if it suits you. It is a good racing game,but to compare it with GT ? Aples and oranges , Hmh

Add.: Let's asume that PD make GT7 a game with ony 30-50 fully simulated premium cars. Would It still be GT? Would people (not only racing driving nuts who like iR,pc,AC ... ) buy It if It woud be like that?

You're only thinking of content. jjaisli gets it right in that it's the quality of those cars that separate the games. You also laugh at comparing the 2 as if to say GT is obviously better. There's nothing obvious about it. Both are compeltely different for a start in what they aim for but that doesn't make one obviously better than the other.

 

[ragnar666]

well I come from iracing also, (SM / V8 driver mainly) and don't ever really try to compare the 2. if I want multiplayer I go iracing, if i want single player or hot-lapping in multiple cars, i play GT series. Mainly because iracing doesn't have nurb yet I don't really like to hotlap on it.

don't see the point trying to compare the 2.

the main problem i have with iracing is you need to be pretty dedicated to even try to be good at it. i'm only able to at most get 1 or 2 official races in a week, after an early week qualify if you get wreaked out in those it just becomes frustrating as hell to try and progress.

whereas with GT series i can sit down whenever i want and run some laps.

 

[Platoon of 1]

IRACING SUXS PERIOD OVER PRICED ,NO DIRTY LOBBY'S , GRAPHICS NOT AS GOOD SO GO ADVERTISE ON IRACING I DONT KNOW A SINGLE PERSON ON PSN THAT WOULD TRADE GRAN TURISMO FOR IRACING AND YES I HAVE TRIED IT

 

[GregOr1971]

You're only thinking of content. jjaisli gets it right in that it's the quality of those cars that separate the games. You also laugh at comparing the 2 as if to say GT is obviously better. There's nothing obvious about it. Both are compeltely different for a start in what they aim for but that doesn't make one obviously better than the other.

First , as I said, iR is good racing game (as might PC,AC or some others be) and I believe it is simulating what is supposed to simulate (racing/car handling,whatewer) way better than GT. No doubt. Do we understand now ?

But , while iR is obviously not for anyone or casuals , GT is everything for everyone . That is main difference in target market those two games have. If I'd like serious racing I'd choose iR/PC/AC , but then if you like cheap casual racing /driving with 1200+ cars (- 400 GTR's ) then GT/PS3 is answer. That is difference I was talking about. Other mentioned games like PC,AC are no doubt at least in the same league as GT visually and physicswise, but they lack content > zilion cars & tracks. No PC,AC,iR could bring 300+ cars ,because they simply don't have a budget to do It. Even EA tried that with SHIFT series and despite all the money invested (+ wonky physics) ,they didn't even come close to GT/FM sales & that in the end is why companies doing things. Fact is ,that more real sim racers are made for a small circle of people and not for everyday joe who just want to drive that million $ car 200mph and not crash every turn.