Finished BMW Vision GT VLN 2hr Endurance - Rematch Sunday, Mar 8 @ 17:00 GMT

Discussion in 'GT6 Single Races & Time Trials' started by kelrick85, Jan 7, 2015.

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What day of the week should the race take place?

Poll closed Jan 9, 2015.
  1. Monday

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  2. Tuesday

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  3. Wednesday

    14.3%
  4. Thursday

    28.6%
  5. Friday

    42.9%
  6. Saturday

    42.9%
  7. Sunday

    42.9%
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  1. kelrick85

    kelrick85

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    Hello,

    I will have a 2 hour endurance single race, as a test and a starting point with hope to take this further to a multi-race series if there is enough interest.


    [Club Information]

    BMW Vision GT Club : ID 1024237

    Note: The room will be set to Club Members Only - please sign up to the club (it is a public club)


    [Rules]

    Car: BMW Vision GT, no tuning allowed. RH tires only
    Track: Nürburgring Type V
    Time: 12:00-16:00 with 2x time progression (2 hours)
    Weather: 0% / no weather changeability
    Grid: 16 spots - 8 black / 8 white

    Assists: All off except ABS
    Tire wear/ fuel: Normal
    Grip eduction on track edge: Real
    Slipstream strength: Weak
    Damage: heavy
    Penalty: None


    [Times]

    REMATCH - Sunday, March 8th

    Room Open: 16:00 GMT
    Qualifying: 16:40 GMT
    Race Start: 17:00 GMT


    [Qualifying]

    Format: Race alone
    Start type: Final corner start
    Time limit: 20 minutes


    [Track Limits]

    Partially copied from WRS guideline:

    Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which is 10 seconds per instance, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries.

    If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

    General Guidelines:
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
    • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
    • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
    Track Specific Guidelines:
    • Red and White rumbles, gray cobblestones, and tarmac are track.
    • Do not cross the white pit-in and pit-out lines.

    [Use of a Pause Button (ghosting)]

    The race is run with heavy damages on. However, the damages can be circumvented by pressing a pause button and ghosting yourself before colliding with the wall or another vehicle. This is useful in a tightly packed situation where a car getting out of control may affect other innocent, unwary vehicles nearby, but at the same time it is unrealistic and defeats the purpose of having the heavy damage in the first place.

    For this reason, the use of pause button is permitted only on the first lap, but thereafter the use of the pause button will result in 30 seconds penalty.


    [Starting Procedure]

    There is a partial formation lap, with the same procedure as CORE VLN races (See below for the video - starting from around 0:33). The starting grid is based on the qualifying result. No passing is allowed until the leading vehicle crosses the start line. The start line is where the overhanging beam is after the Bit-Kurve (See the image below). There are no pace car, but the leading vehicle will pace at 100kph (62mph). Approaching the start line, the cars should take double file formation. The race begins when the leading vehicle crosses the start line.



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    [Points]

    Individual Points:

    1st - 50 points
    2nd - 40 points
    3rd - 30 points
    4th - 25 points
    5th - 20 points
    6th - 16 points
    7th - 14 points
    8th - 12 points
    9th - 10 points
    10th - 8 points
    11th - 6 points
    12th - 5 points
    13th - 4 points
    14th - 3 points
    15th - 2 points
    16th - 1 point
    DNF - 0 point

    Team Points: Sum of the top 6 drivers from each team will contribute to the team point. The team that has the highest point is the winner.


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    More informations will be posted here when available. Please post to the thread if you have questions, suggestions! Thank you
     
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2015
  2. kelrick85

    kelrick85

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    Driver List

    Spots available - 2 ( 1 Black / 1 White)

    Please sign up with your PSN name by posting to this thread.

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    [black team]
    1 - kelrick85 / kelrick85 *
    2 - Glenalz81 / Glen-Alz-81 *
    3 - rclark83 / rclark83 *
    4 - rono_thomas / rono_Thomas
    5 - ProSonic83 / ProSonic83
    6 - w-e-g / GTP_w-g-e
    7 - Mires / iMires *
    8 - OPEN


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    [white team]
    1 - SmileyWRX / SmileyWRX
    2 - TGR_Kefran / Flying_Kefran
    3 - EWeinbauer / EWeinbauer *
    4 - RS__96__oO / RS__96__oO
    5 - Otune / Otune13 *
    6 - Leoni Dias / infodevil
    7 - Mike458 / pp-123
    8 - OPEN

    [Reserve]
    Furinkazen
    FutureF1

    * - confirmed for rematch
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2015
  3. kelrick85

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    February 21st Results

    Qualifier
    Code:
    P       Driver                  Team    Time            Gap
    1.      Glen-Alz-81             B       7:52.192        -
    2.      rono_thomas             B       7:53.196        1.004
    3.      GTP_w-g-e               B       7:53.993        1.801
    4.      rclark83                B       7:54.465        2.273
    5.      gkgamer                 W       8:09.002        16.810
    6.      iMires                  B       8:13.820        21.628
    7.      kelrick85               B       8:20.337        28.145
    8.      SmileyWRX               W       DNF
    9.      EWeinbauer              W       DNF
    10.     RS__96__oO              W       DNF
    
    Race
    Code:
    P       Driver                  Team    Laps            Gap
    1.      RS__96__oO              W       14 laps         -
    2.      kelrick85               B       14 laps         48.159
    3.      gkgamer                 W       14 laps         1:05.148
    4.      iMires                  B       12 laps         2 laps
    5.      rono_thomas             B       11 laps         3 laps
    6.      GTP_w-g-e               B       7 laps          7 laps
    

    March 8th Results

    Graphics courtesy of @Mires

    Qualifier
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    Race
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    Last edited: Mar 9, 2015
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  4. Glenalz81

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    :tup: @rclark83

    Maybe try and get a date set, for people to plan ahead :)
     
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  5. kelrick85

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    Thanks for joining!

    I added a poll to see when people are available. Also I suggest 3PM Eastern (I think 8PM GMT?) to have the public room open.

    I had in mind for this race to happen towards the end of January / February
     
  6. rclark83

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    rclark83 psn and gtp black team please :)
     
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  7. kelrick85

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    Added to the list :tup:

    I did a quick drive around the track in untuned VGT. The time was 8:02.xx. I hope my time isn't too far off from yours, otherwise I have a lot of practice to do! Although, since the damage is set to heavy, safe and cautious driving is more important than the fastest lap time, otherwise you will be limping back to the pits a lot!
     
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  8. kelrick85

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    Created a room just for run: BMW Vision GT Only VLN

    Same setting as event, except for light mech damage


    room ID: [CLOSED]

    Come and join if you're interested!
     
    Last edited: Jan 9, 2015
  9. FutureF1

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    This could be some good practice for the N24! I'm looking forward to hearing more details.
     
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  10. SmileyWRX

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    Hi mate, great event :tup:

    PSN: SmileyWRX
    GTP: SmileyWRX

    BMW vision GT - white
     
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  11. rono_thomas

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    :tup::tup:
     
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  12. Mike458

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    I'll be interested in this, I just need to see what dates work for me. I'll take a white car.
     
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    If it is thursday, i'll take a white one.
     
  14. rclark83

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    Still 8.02 after last nights test? Il test today :)
     
  15. kelrick85

    kelrick85

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    My best last night was 8.06 (nobody else could join unfortunately). I would like to get a baseline time with someone who is more competent on the ring :p
     
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  16. Mike458

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    Never mind, just found it, please delete.
     
  17. rclark83

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    I will post a time once tested :cheers:
     
  18. kelrick85

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    Driver list updated. Spaces left: 4 white / 4 black. Thanks for a good response. I'll set the date soon.

    When is this N24 race? I will plan to have this race before your big day :-)
     
  19. Glenalz81

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    28th feb-1st march
     
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  20. FutureF1

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    I'm also a driver for 1 of the BMW teams so this seems fitting :D
     
  21. kelrick85

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    How about Saturday February 21st 17:00 GMT (12:00 Eastern)? One week before the N24?

    Open for dicussion.
     
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  22. kelrick85

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    OP updated with the followings changes:

    - the penalty is set to none (from weak). Any incidents will be reviewed after the race with the replays.
    - tire, fuel wear set to fast (from normal). This car is pretty fuel efficient, so with 2x time progression, this makes more sense
    - Added more information on the rules (if you can think of something to add/amend, please post here)
    - Added information on qualifying
    - Added information on first lap (formation lap). I may end up not doing this. The issue is that it adds extra 20 or so minutes to the time, and there is no option to do 2.5 hour endurance race. One possibility is to make the race a little longer to 3 hours, but Not sure what people think about that. Open for discussion!

    Any feedbacks/suggestions will be greatly appreciated, especially from those who have experiences organizing races!
     
  23. TGR_Kefran

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    Hi,

    I would like to join:
    PSN: Flying_Kefran
    GTP: TGR_Kefran

    BMW Gt Vision (White)

    I hope we will find a date and time that works for everyone !

    ;)
     
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  24. rclark83

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    This date would be perfect for me :)
     
  25. rono_thomas

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    The date is fine for me will have to check the time though :tup:
     
  26. FutureF1

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    Unfortunately this falls 3 hours before my CORE Super GT N24 Buildup race. I'd prefer not to miss it but If the race is only 2 hours long, that should give me a decent enough break before that.
     
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  27. kelrick85

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    Thanks for everyone's replies! I think Saturday works for most of you. The time is still not 100%

    Wow, you're a busy guy. I could move the event 1h or 2 earlier, but not too early, in case there are people from the West (are there?) who will have to get up early.

    PS. It seems as though I can't delete or modify the polls I created. It's too bad because it's no longer relevant and would be nice to have a different poll.
     
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  28. FutureF1

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    I'm in EST so the time is right in the middle of the day, which is fine for me. As long as the race is only 2 hours, I should be OK. Thanks!
     
  29. Mike458

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    @kelrick85 Should we do what CORE does in the formation lap and just only have a partial formation lap in order to save time like in the VLN? There is an overhang coming out of the two long corners and onto the straight. The starting line is that overhang.
     
  30. kelrick85

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    Good plan. This way we can still keep the 2hr format. For those who are unclear with it, here is a video (from 0:33)



    The only difference is we won't have a pace car that leads it. The leading car will be responsible for keeping the proper pace. By the way, is this what is actually done in VLN in real life?

    I'll wait for others who wants to weigh in before setting The date and time "officially" (February 21st at 17:00 GMT)