Body modding, custom tuning and GT5...

[Fade to Black]

Okay, was I the only one who felt as though PD had missed a chance to give an awful lot of street racing games a good hammering?

Take a look at GT4... we got NOS (a la NFS) but no licensed company supplying it, and only one type... was it wet shot, dry shot... it doesn't tell you..!

We got tuner cars, but... pre tuned bodies. hardly any customising in the tuner village (new suspension and turbo, whoo-hoo) and you can't give them a custom paintjob either (pearlescent paint, anyone?)

We got licensed rims, but and wings you can add on, but, they're not licensed... and it's hardly a breathtaking variation in styles, is it. And a choice of 3 colours. Gee, thanks, as I strap a BLACK wing onto my BLUE car... yeuch!

You can tune up the power of the car to outragious numbers, but your car still looks lik a family runabout?! I mean that's nice if you WANT it to... but c'mon, wouldn't you love to body body something in the game?!

Imagine being able to do that to ANY car in the game! Licensed tuners who tune your cars power like no other tuner does. Actual decals on your car when you choose them as a tuner! Taking your beat up used car, and playing with wings, grills, lights, neons, darkened glass, paint, custom paintjobs, custom tuning and NOS, until your ride frightens the AI into crashing at every corner!

Imagine street racing cars with GT5 PS3 graphics... designed by YOU.

Now... who wouldn't want that? And if you don't... you could play the game without too... just as you do now... *wry grin*

Later - FTB.

 

[Jay]

we got NOS (a la NFS) but no licensed company supplying it, and only one type... was it wet shot, dry shot... it doesn't tell you..!

What does it matter if they told you or gave you a choice (wet or dry)?

Didnt give me Compressor maps when I upgraded my turbo ethier .

Imagine street racing cars with GT5 PS3 graphics... designed by YOU.

Now... who wouldn't want that?

Ahh no thanks.

 

[nissan man]

Say No To Neons!

(even though they add 150bhp LMAO)

 

[Gabkicks]

i really hope people show class and dont flame this thread

 

[Lee]

Hmmmmm to some extent maybe its a good idea, but then it would just take out the "Real driving simulator" part.

Do you see championships with tuned up cars by their drivers on proper race circuits? No.

Nice idea but I don't think it would work in a GT game. Stick to NFSU.

 

[TVRKing]

I will admit he does have a point about the spoilers. It would have been nice if they gave you the option of colour-coding them at least.

 

[Alonsomania]

Very Simple: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NO.

You want street cars? Get back to your stupid NFS Game.
Bye!

 

[mplacki]

There was a specific reason I refused to buy NFS:U and NFS:U2. This is it. The only time graphics are acceptable would be the "racing modification" feature of GT2, which actually had a useful purpose.

PD doesn't need to give those games a good hammering... they have nothing that can hold a candle to the GT series.

And for the record: neons do not look cool, "Type-R" stickers do not add 50hp, and spinners do not make your car go fast. Kthnxbye

EDIT: 100th post!

 

[Alonsomania]

Indeed.

The only body modding which should be useful is Racing Modifications,and they are needed.
Can't wait to have my good ol' race shelby Mustang again

 

[F1GTR]

If they had modding I'd like to see two different paths:

1) Racer: Earn money and win cars by building the ultimate race machine. You'll still be considered a racer if you use functional body parts.

2) Ricer: Earn money and win cars by tricking out your car to win shows. Your car will be slow but hey, people like it.

But PD must put in race modifications.

 

[DuckRacer]

I don't want neons or spinners or any of that stuff in GT5, but when I race my 950hp Viper, I want it to look like it has it, not a normal 500 hp. Things that have no effect to a cars performance shouldn't be in the game, like stickers and vinyls, but body kits that effect the car in a positive way should be in.

My

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[Dave A]

I think stickers and stuff should be in as well, but in the form of sponsorships, so you win a few races in car A, company B says put our logo on your car well give you some more cash for every race win you get, the more logos or the bigger the logo's, the more cash you get. I'm not talking about doubling your prize money or anytihng like that, but just a little bit more. It shouldn't be mandatory, you should be able to accept or decline sponsorships ect.

With regards to the race mod's from past GT games being the only body mods that should be in a GT game, you guys ned a reality check. GT is about turning a stock road car into a race car, it's about allowing you to fine tune that car to your own tastes and thrashing it around a track alone or ahead of bad AI. The original race mods were nice, but I want more control over how my car will perform that you have to either have no downforce options, or these ones. I want to choose my front splitter, my wings, I want to be able to add an air outtake where and when it's needed, I want to choose the rear wing and if the car will have a diffuser or not. The term body kit doesn't mean NFS:U kits, Max Power kits or any of that crap, it means different or extra body parts added to or replacing parts on your car, GT racers have body kits, touring cars have body kits, rally cars have body kits. It's only one type of bodykit you see in NFS:U, and they're more likely going to reduce your performance than add to it, functional kit's that will give the car less weight and different aerodynamics be it more streamlined or more downforce are more than welcome in GT5 imo, anyone that thinks they don't have a place, think about what Gran Turismo is about, road cars to race cars, last time I checked, no one entered a JGTC race in a stock looking Skyline with 500bhp, they're all kitted out for better areodynamics and not all the kits are the same.

 

[Azuremen]

Amen to that live4speed.

I get tired of fielding my highly tuned Celica GT-4 against race cars and have it only have a spoiler and some rims to make it not look stock. Diffuser kits, and some variety in the wing styles, along with wide body kits, wider wheels (I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say JGTC cars do NOT use stock wheel sizes ) carbon fiber parts to reduce weight and so on.

And the option of just being able to paint the car would be nice. nothing fancy, but not all of us want are color selection limited to a few hideous colors on some cars. Being able to put driving lights on cars for night racing would be nice to.

Sponsorship decals would be an excellent addition. Maintaining the car in good shape would also be a nice thing - carry over damage and what not - as no one wants to sponsor a car that looks like the doors will fall off at any moment.

 

[crimson_menace]

Lo!!

Finally some life breathed into this topic.

I agree with the whole of the customization, save spinny rims, neons, and other useless tuner crap along those lines. I am totally for functional bodykits, and custom spoilers, custom paint, and even sponsorship decals-to and extent. I really hope that PD include at least that much customization in the next GT.

If that were to occur, then GT would truly be untouchable...I hate to say it, but the customization from forza rawx, and in that department, GT got beat. But that's the only thing forza's got on gt...well except the ferraris & such, but that shouldn't be an issue for PD, so long they include it in GT5.

CUSTOMIZATION IS ADAMENT FOR GT5!!!

 

[Fade to Black]

Very Simple: NO NO NO NO NO NO NO AND NO.

You want street cars? Get back to your stupid NFS Game.
Bye!

Ummm... I take it you have actually played NFS? If you had, you'd know you can in fact totally tune up a car without tricking up it's exterior in any way... and uh, NFS has NOS too, before GT4. (licensed, too)

Which is my point. YOU CAN CHOOSE WHAT YOU DO TO THE CAR.

Can you in GT4? Really? Win a car. Try changing the paintjob. Gimme a call when you succeed...

Do you, by the same token (this also applies to everyone else who nixed it) object to licensed wheel rims in the GT series? Oh no, it's not stock! Burn ye in hell for using them! I think not... so what's the difference, exactly?

I take it also you'd never sully your hands driving any car in the tuner village either. even though some of them specifically say STREET RACING cars..? (S2000 anyone?)

Well, that's your choice, and your loss. Me, I like maximum choice. Don't like tuning cars? You don't have to! But the next time you whack an unlicensed, "it's a turbo upgrade but not calibrated, no dyno testing, no way to alter the boost pressure settings, no idea who made it or even if it's at all realistic!" on your car, think about what PD COULD do, if only they'd make the effort... there's a lot more to NFS than YOU obviously realise, in that regard!

Me, I still think the tuning in the GT series is weak. Sorry if that upsets fanboys like you, but y'know what? No game is perfect. It can be improved. It should be.

And to answer a question elsewhere, why does it not matter if the NOS is wet or dryshot? Power, performance and realism. Ever gone into a showroom and asked for "a car?" Not stating what type, what performance, or anything? No? Then why accept it in a part for the car?

I'd also point out there are already non standard paintjobs (pearlescent speed 12 for example) wings, rims, carbon fibre hoods and bodies (Carbon R34) street racing cars AND body kitted to the max cars already IN GT... (the body modded car? Suzuki Escudo. Could you GET more wing and spoiler on a car?!) so exactly what are you going on about? I'm talking a natural progression of the game... improving and adding to the options available for your car.

And uh, what do you think Las Vegas dragstrip is for, if not showing off your ride? Your car seems to gain about 300% more shine on it... almost like say... a street racing style of game!

Yup, your argument won ME over. Yup. *laughs*

NUFF SAID. FTB.

 

[Jay]

I take it also you'd never sully your hands driving any car in the tuner village either. even though some of them specifically say STREET RACING cars..? (S2000 anyone?)

Where do any of the cars say "Street racing" in GT4?

I think your confusing "Street racing" with "Street legal tuned". There is no street racing in any Gran Turismo.

What we dont want is GT to turn into a NFS U type game.

Also you couldnt get very far in NFS U unless you 'riced' your car out, just tuning the engine and drivetrain (which was completey un realistic anyway) didn't get you very far.

 

[Gabkicks]

THere's no reason for people to be afraid of more customization in GT5... the game wont lose focus.
sure some people online will have fashion contests etc, but racing will still be the primary focus. Dunno why some of you ladies get all PMS'y and start referring to how u dont want GT to turn into NFSU.

Its just as bad as the people who hate drifting just because they are friends with someone who hates drifting. or people who think they're good drifters and then they suck in actual racing so they claim that they think racing is boring

 

[Jay]

THere's no reason for people to be afraid of more customization in GT5... the game wont lose focus.
sure some people online will have fashion contests etc, but racing will still be the primary focus. Dunno why some of you ladies get all PMS'y and start referring to how u dont want GT to turn into NFSU.

Its just as bad as the people who hate drifting just because they are friends with someone who hates drifting. or people who think they're good drifters and then they suck in actual racing.

I want alot more customization in the next GT, I want to be able to paint my car, I want to be able to add functional aero's, I want very high detailed engine modifications, but everything this guy refers to is street racing and NFS U and thats awful.

And to answer a question elsewhere, why does it not matter if the NOS is wet or dryshot? Power, performance and realism. Ever gone into a showroom and asked for "a car?" Not stating what type, what performance, or anything? No? Then why accept it in a part for the car?

If you had the choice "Wet or dry" what difference to the game does it make? nothing. How many people that play GT actually know the difference? very few.

 

[Gabkicks]

I dont think anyone wants illegal street racing but i wouldnt mind some hillclimbs and touge.

i'd like for gt4's tuning to get more complex. i want the uber complex lsd's of wrc cars, being able to finetune a car to adjust torque band.. things like that. it should be a learning experience for those unfamiliar and those who understand will be pleased. 👍

 

[Jay]

I dont think anyone wants illegal street racing but i wouldnt mind some hillclimbs and touge.

i'd like for gt4's tuning to get more complex. i want the uber complex lsd's of wrc cars, being able to finetune a car to adjust torque band.. things like that. it should be a learning experience for those unfamiliar and those who understand will be pleased. 👍

I would love some Hill climbs, touge and complex tuning 👍.

 

[Alonsomania]

ROFL!

Yes,I did played the NFS games. I do own Porsche Unleashed.

Underground is a game like "Oh look how nice pimpin' car I drive,you sucker".
If GT5 turns into that,yukky.

 

[the_west_sider]

i want to put my lights on whenever i want to because some cars flap there lights open if you turn on the lights (lotus elan - 240sx). i wanna do it on daytime to and maybe a turn signal if you driving towards the pits thats also realistic. and maybe by the garage an abandoned airstrip for testing your rides and fine tune them . i want to choose the tyre size and the rims size . more small international circuits from around the world . if im in reverse the reverse light doesn't go on so i want that to . racing bodykits for maximum downforce and you can put your own stickers on (HKS - SPOON - BBS - ...). and you can build up your own tuning company maybe and promote it by racing aint that cool. fix up a own racing team with yourself and a few AI drivers on the team and races with more cars not 6 but about 30AI drivers. more cars not 100 different skylines but more varriety in cars en more cars from around the world not only alot of japan cars . skidmarks that stay and more smoke from tyres. in the beginning of the race they have to let see the cars your up against and so you can see girls with umbrellas and the pit crew making the car ready.

please say what you think about it. cool ideas or not

 

[Alonsomania]

i want to put my lights on whenever i want to because some cars flap there lights open if you turn on the lights (lotus elan - 240sx). i wanna do it on daytime to and maybe a turn signal if you driving towards the pits thats also realistic. and maybe by the garage an abandoned airstrip for testing your rides and fine tune them . i want to choose the tyre size and the rims size . more small international circuits from around the world . if im in reverse the reverse light doesn't go on so i want that to . racing bodykits for maximum downforce and you can put your own stickers on (HKS - SPOON - BBS - ...). and you can build up your own tuning company maybe and promote it by racing aint that cool. fix up a own racing team with yourself and a few AI drivers on the team and races with more cars not 6 but about 30AI drivers. more cars not 100 different skylines but more varriety in cars en more cars from around the world not only alot of japan cars . skidmarks that stay and more smoke from tyres. in the beginning of the race they have to let see the cars your up against and so you can see girls with umbrellas and the pit crew making the car ready.

please say what you think about it. cool ideas or not

No.

WHO CARES ABOUT A HKS SPONSOR?
I want Shell on my car

Mate,this is not a ricer game. NFS:U is something for you

PD,don't add those ricer things.

And besides,why would you want an airfield while you can just test it on a race circuit itself?

Ricing/tuning/drifting is SO overhyped....sigh...

 

[Dave A]

You sir haven't read a single post since your earlier one and are a fool for erplying in the way you did. PD don't do "ricer" things, they let us choose our own style of wing, not because each different style has a different effect on the car, but because they look different, the let us choose our own wheels, again for looks only. PD already do "ricer" things. Bodykits can be functional. Not a single thing the_west_sider posted is not seen in motorsports, even old airfields are used for tracks albeit with a bit of work done to make them smoother, remove the lights ect. If you think tuning is overhyped, get away from GT games, they feature tuning heavilly.

 

[Alonsomania]

You sir haven't read a single post since your earlier one and are a fool for erplying in the way you did. PD don't do "ricer" things, they let us choose our own style of wing, not because each different style has a different effect on the car, but because they look different, the let us choose our own wheels, again for looks only. PD already do "ricer" things. Bodykits can be functional. Not a single thing the_west_sider posted is not seen in motorsports, even old airfields are used for tracks albeit with a bit of work done to make them smoother, remove the lights ect. If you think tuning is overhyped, get away from GT games, they feature tuning heavilly.

Yes,I have no problems with either wings or body kits when turning a road car into a street car. but if you have a slow Kei car,and give it a huge wing,I mean things like that.

With the tuning things,I mean ricing. Having a small car and give it huge wings,stuff like that...

 

[Dave A]

You can already give Kei cars huge wings in GT4. Also the_west_sider didn't say anything that was with NFS:U yet you still insulted him. As for small cars with huge wings, have you heared of the Suzuki Cultus, and Aerio? Theres proper race variations of both thoes cars, both race variations have massive wings, adding a big wing isn't rice, if it provides more performance or brings that car within a regulation for motorsport. Hell, you get small hatches with big wings in touring cars, Civics and 147's in the BTCC, a bi bigger the Kei cars but who's been mentioing Kei cars before now, and when was the last time a Kei car was in NFS:U or associated with ricing.

 

[Gen.]

drifting is SO overhyped....sigh...

Why are people still so hell bent on anti-drifting?

Get over it. It's a motorsport, it has it's rules, it's legitimate.

Why join the thousands of other anti-drift people? Is it because it's the cool thing to do? You need to learn to be more open about things.

 

[concentric]

i think all they should do is bring back race modifications, maybe have two or three variants for each model.. this is gran turismo, not need for speed.

 

[Blackbird.]

Say No To Neons!

(even though they add 150bhp LMAO)

Say no to the 50 different models of the skyline! They are all the freaking same just named differently. How retarded is that. Most overrated car ever.

 

[KevinD]

i think all they should do is bring back race modifications, maybe have two or three variants for each model.. this is gran turismo, not need for speed.

I'd be happy it they just do this, and improve the AI also.