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  • Serving police officer kidnaps and murders a young woman who was walking home after meeting a friend.
  • A vigil/protest was arranged but the organisers cancelled it in order to respect COVID restrictions.
  • Hundreds of people turned up anyway, and held a vigil and peaceful protest.
  • The police then decide, after a few hours, that the gathering breaks COVID rules and break up the vigil, arresting some people and trampling all over the flowers left at the vigil site.
  • Now people are calling for the resignation of the head of the Metropolitan police, Cressida Dick.
So, if you see the phrase #DickOut on Twitter, that's what it's about...
 
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There were women saying that the authorities saying the vigil cannot go ahead is another example of men silencing women's voices.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Priti Patel and Cressida Dick are both women...
 
The counter point: Football

The latest football team's fans to go bananas in public are those of Rangers. They basically had a contained riot and wrecked George Square in Glasgow about a week ago. I see a lot of sniping from people who say that one of those public demos was fine, the other isn't; football is worth celebrating, lots of people get murdered without their own demos/this is a vital issue whereas celebrating football is an irrelevant indulgence. Or that both demos are wrong no matter what, the virus doesn't respect whatever the occasion is... fine. Whatever.

I do think that the admonishment and response last night was disproportionate. The only thing I can really say about it is that if both demos are wrong, the response by the authorities isn't showing it.
 
Liquid
The counter point: Football

The latest football team's fans to go bananas in public are those of Rangers. They basically had a contained riot and wrecked George Square in Glasgow about a week ago
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And had initially provided escorts for columns of fans on their way to join the 'celebration' rather than halting them, or so some of the press is suggesting (I know, I know). The whole thing was handled very badly. Take names, issues fines, that would be harsh but probably right and balanced. But this was evidently a legitimate protest that even the High Court refused to halt, let them be.
 
I think the police mishandled last night's situation badly, but I do have some sympathy.

As the Rangers incident(s) prove, the police are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

The police need to make the call as to when intervention is more trouble than its worth. Breaking up a crowd of a few thousand exuberant (drunk) and potentially (almost definitely) violent people is a good reason to not intervene, especially given that the damage (the gathering itself) has already been done.

The vigil at Clapham Common was a very different matter... OK, so there was no social distancing, but people were peaceful, calm, respectful and mostly masked. Again, the damage was largely already done, so why the need to break it up?

If anything, the logic described above should be reversed. Those likely to kick off at police intervention should be dealt with accordingly, and those who aren't should be respected. It sends a horrible message that a dumbass football celebration is not dealt with by the police, but a vigil/protest for a murdered woman ends up like a riot.

Again, I have great sympathy for the police, and each case needs to be dealt with on its own merits, but last night's scenes were disgraceful and very sad for a multitude of reasons.
 
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The counter-counterargument is that the police were aware of the Rangers match in advance and were able to have enough officers on hand to make 28 arrests while the Sarah vigil only had 4 arrestees (the organisers).

Presumably this represents the different levels of violence at each event but it does sound really badly handled and the horrible optics are making Dick look heavy handed.
 
Some at the scene claim that the kerfuffle kicked off when some anti-lockdown protestors turned up to do their thing, co-opting the grandstand, and that it returned to clam and quiet once they had left.

Of course we can't say for sure whether there were bad actors there, or if the police dealt with them appropriately rather than those at the vigil for the vigil itself if so.
 
This is not satire!

Tory MP attempts to own the libs, sorry BBC, by complaining to the director-general that the annual report didn't have a union flag in it. Keep in mind this wasn't just a random moan about it, but rather a question he asked during a select committee hearing. To top it all he then boasted about it on Twitter, unsurprisingly its getting ratio'd to hell and back.

 
Scaff
This is not satire!

Tory MP attempts to own the libs, sorry BBC, by complaining to the director-general that the annual report didn't have a union flag in it. Keep in mind this wasn't just a random moan about it, but rather a question he asked during a select committee hearing. To top it all he then boasted about it on Twitter, unsurprisingly its getting ratio'd to hell and back.

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I guess "I can hazard a guess based on where the question is going, but I haven't looked" is a polite way to say "you're tediously wasting our time and it's irrelevant" :lol:

I think I like the new DG!
 
MatskiMonk
#FlagshaggerNation

UK government buildings will soon all look like **** seaside souvenir shops. Yay.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56514501
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The last refuge of scoundrels...

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Speaking to BBC Radio 4's PM programme, Conservative MP Sir John Hayes welcomed the move saying: "I think we just don't fly our flag enough - if you go to capitals of other countries, around the heart of those capitals, particularly government buildings, you routinely see the flag of that country flying.

"So it does seem to me something that unifies the country, that brings us together, that allows us to share in our national pride - what's wrong with that? And after this year, bringing the country together around the flag couldn't be more apposite."
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Unless you don't agree... then they'll try and "unify the country" against you.

Personally I think it's fairly obvious which country this is if we look out of the window. We don't need to put up flags and banners everywhere to remind us.
 
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UKMikey
Personally I think it's fairly obvious which country this is if we look out of the window. We don't need to put up flags and banners everywhere to remind us.
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Just reminded me of a brilliant song by a duo called Flanders and Swann.

 
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Novalee


Looks like Home Sec. has some explaining to do .
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Beautiful Brows and Lashes
Global Beauty Products Limited

Sorry, had to tell the truth!

edit: AFAIK, it was Byline Times that first thought they'd found something juicy, and even they had the limited company name correct.
 
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HenrySwanson
Errrrr

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You're right to "errrrr", because this is terrible journalism.

What any normal person would reasonably infer from all of this is that a study by Google has revealed that Prince William is the bald man named as the sexiest by most responses in the study.

What actually happened is a hair transplant company literally searched Google for "[celebrity name] sexy", noted how many results each got (without any filtering), put that into a table in a press release and sent it to news desks (and it looks like the Sun published it before the Independent, because the Independent cites the Sun in the piece).

The overall result is lots of exposure for the hair transplant company and lots of internet outrage as xyz fans say xyz is sexier, and xyz themselves respond, for further articles. From a bunch of unfiltered Google searches.


This is clickbait.
 
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Novalee
you have proof this beauty supply store was selling facemasks and germ killers spray before the covid hit the UK? why did the receipt say eyebrows ? I would say some people are more easily lead astray .
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I've shown that the tweet you posted pointed at the wrong company.

And that considering that the correct company was clearly identified on the accounts, I'd have to suspect that Lloyd Hardy (or whoever he got the wrong info from) deliberately pointed at the wrong company to lead people astray.

The dates of the expenditure clearly coincide with COVID hitting the UK.

Did the receipt really say anything about eyebrows at all (apart from the company name)? Or was it just that tweet?

I'm not saying there won't be something out of order found in Priti's accounts, but it isn't that a different company was wound up a couple of years ago.
 
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Outspacer
I've shown that the tweet you posted pointed at the wrong company.

And that considering that the correct company was clearly identified on the accounts, I'd have to suspect that Lloyd Hardy (or whoever he got the wrong info from) deliberately pointed at the wrong company to lead people astray.

The dates of the expenditure clearly coincide with COVID hitting the UK.

Did the receipt really say anything about eyebrows at all (apart from the company name)? Or was it just that tweet?

I'm not saying there won't be something out of order found in Priti's accounts, but it isn't that a different company was wound up a couple of years ago.
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that was explained by that guy that it was a company that changed names . what wasnt explained is why the Home Sec had put eyebrows on her expense record or did that wholesaler of beauty products sell virus protection before covid hit the U.K.?

Add in her regressive protest law she wants put into law , she should be fired yesterday .
 
Novalee
that was explained by that guy that it was a company that changed names . what wasnt explained is why the Home Sec had put eyebrows on her expense record or did that wholesaler of beauty products sell virus protection before covid hit the U.K.?
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Can you prove it was eyebrows and not PPE? Unless you can, it's fake news, and you've been had.

For any charge to stick against Patel, it's completely irrelevant if the company sold PPE before covid hit the UK because the purchase dates were when covid was already hitting the UK. Can you prove that the company wasn't selling PPE on those dates?

As for the company, well, it's quite possible they were scummy opportunistic scalpers who had never sold it before. I wouldn't know, and it's not relevant to the Patel angle.

Novalee
Add in her regressive protest law she wants put into law , she should be fired yesterday .
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As the meme I posted implied - I would not be sorry to see the back of her.

But easily dismissed false charges only serve to help her stay.

And if ousted, who's next? Just another Tory. Happy then? I doubt it.
 

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