Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
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There's a great bit of Radio 4 with the education secretary repeatedly saying the tax cuts are funded, but without admitting that this is, by so far undecided, cuts elsewhere in the budget!

How's that better than Labour's make-policies, forget-deficit.

And repeated claims by Tories than they are improving the budget, but we're still no where near a balanced core, let alone all the fancy projects.

Damn I listen to too much Radio 4 these days!
 
This chap is running for UKIP in my former constituency next year.

Has flip-flopped from one party to the next. Said UKIP can't even get the basics right during the last Euro elections, now standing for them in a seat (Alyn & Deeside) UKIP has said is one of their primary targets in Wales. Urrrrggggggh.

Furthermore, there is now a UKIP 'office' in my hometown now. I move abroad and the whole region turns to 🤬. Dang!
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Oh no. Last one out, turn the lights off.

UKIP win first Westminster seat with Dougie "Snorter" Carswell, right honorable member for Clactonshire.

The Snorter and Farridge share a quiet celebratory sherry while in the background Putin discusses his defeat with the Pope.

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They are giants in comparison to Esther Rantzen and Moby!

Surely 'Clactonshire' is a made up English county in a cheap US drama?
 
Nothing to worry about here.
Overnight on the BBC I heard by-elections don't mean much, and Miliband say he is highly motivated by his concern for the poor.
 
One side of Carswell's jaw looks as if it's collapsed. :odd: :eek:
 
Dotini
Nothing to worry about here.
Overnight on the BBC I heard by-elections don't mean much, and Miliband say he is highly motivated by his concern for the poor.
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Well... this gives them a member in parliament, literally and figuratively. That has the same power per-constituency as a General Election.

Miliband (Ed, final legacy of the unions as revenge for Clause 4) is highly concerned by his party failing to gain from Conservative losses and not-being-David.
 
There is, perhaps, a point to be made that the minor parliamentary parties get shafted and ignored while UKIP continue to lap up coverage. Much like any discussion on here with racism has concluded, the more you make an issue out of something, the more it festers and grows.

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Probably also worth mentioning that UKIP was only a few hundred votes short of winning the other by-election last night, Heywood and Middleton, a Labour stronghold.

Regardless of UKIP's smattering of dodgy polices, to nearly take both Tory and Labour "safe"* seats in the one night does suggest a new height of anti-"big 3 parties" sentiment, and UKIP have become the dominant protest party of choice. It'll be interesting to see if the big 3 will change how they react to this in the run up to the general election.


*Clacton arguably wasn't a safe seat in a Tory sense because apparently Carswell was an MP who was big on local government, so had strong consituency links - he probably could have won back his seat if we was with the Monster Raving Loony Party!


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There is, perhaps, a point to be made that the minor parliamentary parties get shafted and ignored while UKIP continue to lap up coverage. Much like any discussion on here with racism has concluded, the more you make an issue out of something, the more it festers and grows.
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UKIP do get a lot of coverage, although to be fair it's probably more a reflection of their opinion polling and election gains rather than MPs. Although I agree that the Greens seem to have drawn the short straw, given they overtook the Lib Dems in many areas in the Euro elections.

Sinn Fein, DUP and Plaid Cymru are regional parties too, so realistically they're only going to appear on QT when an issue from that region reaches national importance. But tbh you're probably better off listening to any old UKIP loony than some Sinn Fein/DUP twonk trying to debate national issues :p
 
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29642997

Oh dear, Britain, what's happening? Why are you suddenly resorting to medieval practices? :boggled:

Oh wait... it's actually the multicultural folk that like to do this stuff. In that case, all of you racists should start tolerating richer cultures and donating money to support these practices in the future as well! :eek:

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Carbonox
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29642997

Oh dear, Britain, what's happening? Why are you suddenly resorting to medieval practices? :boggled:

Oh wait... it's actually the multicultural folk that like to do this stuff. In that case, all of you racists should start tolerating richer cultures and donating money to support these practices in the future as well! :eek:

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Given that I am a member of a multi-cultural family you do realism that you have just accused me of supporting FGM!

I strongly suggest that you tread very lightly in regard to inferences of that nature.

Not to mention that you are grossly misrepresenting both the actually events and anyone who doesn't support your worldview.

Multicultural =/= Support for FGM
 
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Given that I am a member of a multi-cultural family you do realism that you have just accused me of supporting FGM!

I strongly suggest that you tread very lightly in regard to inferences of that nature.

Not to mention that you are grossly misrepresenting both the actually events and anyone who doesn't support your worldview.

Multicultural =/= Support for FGM
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So far, the tolerant people can't seem to understand why so many Western countries have banned FGM. Of course, weeding out uncivilized parts of cultures is seen as a breach on human rights...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#Criticism_of_opposition
 
Wait, what's going on here? I'm pretty sure @Carbonox just tried to say that everyone who's supposed to be tolerant in Britain supports FGM. Care to clarify?
 
That's essentially exactly what's going on. He's incredibly paranoid and is essentially the Finnish version of White and Nerdy, he's atheist and supports gay rights but I'm not sure how much more there is that differentiates the two.

He thinks that supporting multiculturalism is the same as being morally relativist. He thinks that supporting the idea that all cultures should be treated equally under the law is the same as saying that specific cultures should be allowed to bend the law.

He's essentially cherry picking the WBC of liberals.
 
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Carbonox
So far, the tolerant people can't seem to understand why so many Western countries have banned FGM. Of course, weeding out uncivilized parts of cultures is seen as a breach on human rights...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#Criticism_of_opposition
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Now first of all in a British thread the list of people in the link that support FGM contains no British people at all!

You are also once again stating that all tolerant people can't understand why FGM has been banned, so your still claiming that I support it.

The issue of you posting unsupported blanket accusations has been raised a number of times, you have however failed to support it with anything substantial on every occasion.

That some people support FGM does not mean that everyone who is tolerant does, not does it mean that everyone who support (or is) multi-cultural does.

Its blatantly misleading to claim such and given that polite request to stop this kind of behavior have failed you can take a week off.

Continue in this vein when you return and the ban will be for good, and the same goes for posting links to racist, anti-Semitic, white power websites.
 
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Carbonox
So far, the tolerant people can't seem to understand why so many Western countries have banned FGM. Of course, weeding out uncivilized parts of cultures is seen as a breach on human rights...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation#Criticism_of_opposition
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That's rubbish, I consider myself tolerant and I fully support the challenging of FGM as a cultural norm.

The same with MGM in more fundamentalist Christian countries like the US and Israel too, as it happens. I don't imagine they're on your radar though. And this is the Britain thread; not quite the place for you to undertake another of your heavy-on-anger-but-light-on-fact episodes.
 
Oh my Flying Spaghetti Monster, deport that song right the 🤬 now.
 
An anti-immigration song sung in the style of music from an immigrant population, and I'm sure the irony is lost on most of them.
 
Strangely enough, I think that might almost be the worst thing you can find on Mike Read's hard drive.
 

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