Britain - The Official Thread

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How will you vote in the 2024 UK General Election?

  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Labour Party

    Votes: 14 48.3%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Other (Wales/Scotland/Northern Ireland)

    Votes: 1 3.4%

  • Other Independents

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other Parties

    Votes: 2 6.9%

  • Spoiled Ballot

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Will Not/Cannot Vote

    Votes: 8 27.6%
  • Total voters
    29
  • Poll closed .
Not strictly just about Scotland so I'll leave this here.

Daily Post - The Union Is Dead says First Minister Carwyn Jones (Labour).

"The union is dead”, declared Wales’ First Minister Carwyn Jones AM today, as voters go to the polls in the Scottish independence referendum. The leader in the Senedd believes that a new partnership of four nations must be built regardless of the result in Scotland.
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Asked what he thought of the implications of a Yes or a No vote, he said: “From my point of view a No vote would be best for Wales.
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“The old union is dead, effectively. We need to build a new union. A partnership of four nations and the UK constitution needs to reflect that."
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Interesting article. He basically says the Union as it stands is ineffective and needs to be updated regardless of today's result. He concedes that Wales and Scotland are very different and independence is not a wise move for us, with which I agree.
 
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Former Wales First Minister Rhodri Morgan has said that Wales should be 'rewarded' for neither putting the UK through te mill of an independence referendum like Scotland nor having terrorism and strife of Northern Ireland. He goes on to say that Wales' peaceful behaviour and conduction of its business should be rewarded with more powers / a bigger budget, rather than being punished by the current formula to calculate national budgets, which he says is outdated and unfair.

In a funny kind of way, I see his point. Wales never gives anyone any trouble. We keep our heads down, and get on with it. No indy refs, no theoretical WRA.
 
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And could become a bizarre ally against IS via Jordan. What a mess the West has made of this world...
 
So he's gone from the UK's Public Enemy No:1 to a possible ally because he might be an enemy of our enemy?

No kidding it's quite a mess.
 
A webpage containing all the various county flags, including Kent which is clearly the best. :sly:

But can someone from Nottinghamshire explain why their one has a spazzy lobster on it?

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Thats the council flag not the county flag. The county flag is this.
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But still it is a tree not a lobster.
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I've lived in South Yorkshire for 19 years now. Never once have i seen that flag or those colours used.
 
Now's your chance! :dopey:

Just noticed that Oxfordshire has a spazzy lobster too. And an even worse flag, poor things.
 
Every so often I wonder what people think of a country that has a Dragon on its flag...

... And then I see the Isle of Man's and realise they are the real weirdos.
 
ExigeEvan
Every so often I wonder what people think of a country that has a Dragon on its flag...

... And then I see the Isle of Man's and realise they are the real weirdos.
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The dragon symbolizes power and wisdom.

The triskelion, which predates Christianity and maybe even Kingship and patriarchy, has come to symbolize a warrior culture.
 
The Welsh dragon symbolises native British/Celtic/Welsh (there's no accurate word for this) defiance in the face of Anglo-Saxon invasion.

The legend of the red dragon comes from its time as a symbol of Cadwaladr, King of Gwynedd, and came to be used in the allegory of the red dragon of the native Britons/Celts/Welsh slaying the white dragon of the invading Saxons at the climax of a long and tumultuous battle where the white dragon dominates for many centuries.

Whether you like Celtic mythology or not, it makes for a cool flag. It's a frigging big red dragon.
 
It is. We are the Delaware of Wales. A few artefacts, a bit of interesting history, but largely in the shade of our neighbouring countries.

I could go on if you wanted though.
 
I think you will find, Stephen, that those are choughs; a bird native to parts of North Wales but not Flintshire itself!
 
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It is. We are the Delaware of Wales. A few artefacts, a bit of interesting history, but largely in the shade of our neighbouring countries.

I could go on if you wanted though.
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I understand you have numerous ruined castles there in your corner of the Welsh marches. Have you visited them all?
 
We aren't part of the Welsh Marches, or at least we certainly don't consider ourselves that 'southern', but I will forgive you. ;)

The better castles are the further west you go; further away from England and less likely to have been ransacked. Flintshire is unfortunately a border county so our castles are indeed ruined. The best are in Gwynedd and Conwy County.
 
We built them! We had to, you're a bloody rabble! :p

I say 'we', I wasn't personally involved.

Also, as I've mentioned before, I'm a quarter Welsh so technically only 75% racist. I can live with that.
 
Anybody know why they always play "America" whenever a British driver wins an F1 race? Uggghhhhhhhh.
 

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