Call Of Duty: Black Ops - PS3, PC, 360 - November 9

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Golfman
Okay, so you would rather we had yet another game based on past conflicts? True there are hundreds of sci-fi shooters out there, but only a few are worth playing. Same goes for WW2 shooters.
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And that is why the CoD series never interested me prior the MW2 (I'm also new to shooters, but BC2 & MW2 got me to try, now I'm in CoD4). I enjoyed "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers ("The Pacific not so much)" as much as the next guy. I'm the son of a WW2 combat Vet and buy into the "greatest generation" thing. However I have no huge WW2 nostalgia. So I agree that is a well taped area for concepts.

At least Vietnam is new ground.

I am interested in the American Revolution and have a handful of American Civil War historians in my family. Would I like to see a game based on either conflict? Not really (Red Dead Redemption is pushing it with some-what period firearm joy, the game design itself makes up for that). Plus battle was a vet different thing then (pre WW1, big strategic battle best simulated by strategy sims).

Point is this. I like stuff set in present day. Given the nature of conflict in 2010, The types of arms we have, The complexity of the environments needed, etc etc is more than enough for compelling games.

But I do understand Treyarch wanting to stamp a new feel on the CoD series given they are know for their WW2 stuff and the void opened up post IW implosion.

I'm still very much looking forward to Black Ops. I just hope the M16 isn't again the be-all/end-all (yawn).
 
Sharky.
It's set in the Cold War, so yes.

Do any of you find it slightly ironic that W@W used, and Black Ops will use, Infinity Ward's game engine?
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That alone should make it interesting since most games either go for straight up WWII (Kill ze Nazis!) or modern/futuristic war settings (MW1 & 2's modern combat). I don't think there's been very many games at all that actually set themselves in during the Cold War.

With that, the plot will probably be predictable & close to MW2, in that, someone will cause a lot of tension between America & Russia and someone will save the 2 countries just in time. Just my view, will probably end up being very different.


On the topic of MW2's story, I loved it. Not often has a developer had the balls to show America being attacked and destroyed, all done through the purposeful misunderstanding of 1 man. And then continue with corrupt leaders & showing good guys killed off in cold blood. Guess I'm easily amused, but here's hoping MW3 (if done, and probably will) wraps up everything.
 
McLaren
That alone should make it interesting since most games either go for straight up WWII (Kill ze Nazis!) or modern/futuristic war settings (MW1 & 2's modern combat). I don't think there's been very many games at all that actually set themselves in during the Cold War.

With that, the plot will probably be predictable & close to MW2, in that, someone will cause a lot of tension between America & Russia and someone will save the 2 countries just in time. Just my view, will probably end up being very different.
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yeah, ive a feeling BO will include the deaths of a lot of russian soldiers and middle eastern extremest.


McLaren
On the topic of MW2's story, I loved it. Not often has a developer had the balls to show America being attacked and destroyed, all done through the purposeful misunderstanding of 1 man. And then continue with corrupt leaders & showing good guys killed off in cold blood. Guess I'm easily amused, but here's hoping MW3 (if done, and probably will) wraps up everything.
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id love to see a proper end to the MW story, but, like the intro says, the thirst for revenge is never complete until everyones dead so hopefully that dont abuse that and keep making sequels for more revenge even if that means killing soap and price (again).
 
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id love to see a proper end to the MW story, but, like the intro says, the thirst for revenge is never complete until everyones dead so hopefully that dont abuse that and keep making sequels for more revenge even if that means killing soap and price (again).[/QUOTE]
Honestly, Modern Warfare's story only needs 1 more sequel that ties up where Soap & Price have gone into hiding, what's become of America & Russa's conflict, & whether or not Makarov will be caught.
 
Dont get me wrong, I do like and admire the MW games(MW1 more than MW2), but mainly for the online mode. In fact I hardly paid attention to the story in MW2 it was so weak. I just wish they would take the series into new territory. Surely that's what the series is needing? If Killzone 2 hadnt existed, wouldnt you all agree that it would have been an ideal setting for a CoD game? I particularly like the idea of being sent off on a mission where you dont know what to expect or what you're fighting against(whether it's aliens, humans, monsters, robots, whatever), much like Cameron's Aliens. The sequence where the marines arrive and start to explore the space station, not knowing what's coming, stands out as one of the most visceral, unnerving, and exciting pieces of movie making ever. That would translate brilliantly into a CoD game. But that's just my opinion, anybody else agree?

EDIT: Okay okay! Just seen CoD: Black Ops in action and I take back any negative comments I made here. It looks awsome, especially the helicopter bits.

By the way, has anybody else heard the rumours that there IS gonna be a Call Of Duty game set in a sci-fi universe? I read it somewhere in a magazine. After seeing what Black Ops is like, and after MW2, I think it should be done by Treyarch. Infinity Ward lost all credibility after the rubbish they stuffed into MW2 online, and the weak story of it's single player.

EDIT: Totally pumped! Just read that in the helicopter bits, it isn't on rails. You actually take over the controls, fly it and shoot stuff at the same time. Brilliant.
 
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I had forgot about this thread, I watched the trailer earlier, looks good to me.
 
McLaren
Honestly, Modern Warfare's story only needs 1 more sequel that ties up where Soap & Price have gone into hiding, what's become of America & Russa's conflict, & whether or not Makarov will be caught.
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There was a story in MW2?
 
The remote control explosive cars reminds me of Frontlines Fuel Of War.

I have said this before but I think I have pretty much given up on the COD series after MW2. I will rent this but I have no plans at all to buy this game.

The only good news is that this is Treyarch so it will probably be a lot better than MW2. Hopefully it has a 4 player co-op campaign like WAW. I really had a great time with WAW and I still own it. I just wish this COD series would add true matchmaking.
 
CAMAROBOY69
The remote control explosive cars reminds me of Frontlines Fuel Of War.

I have said this before but I think I have pretty much given up on the COD series after MW2. I will rent this but I have no plans at all to buy this game.

The only good news is that this is Treyarch so it will probably be a lot better than MW2. Hopefully it has a 4 player co-op campaign like WAW. I really had a great time with WAW and I still own it. I just wish this COD series would add true matchmaking.
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I have also pretty much given up on cod after mw2 however that trailer looks quite nice. I will not buy it but I will get it as an xmas present alongside GT5. It wont get played much till I slow up on GT5 though...
 
I just hope it's still good on Wii. And they're actually releasing it at the same time as the other consoles! :lol:
EDIT: Just saw the trailer. I lol'd at the R/C car bit, and the crossbow is an epic-winbow
 
Wii is not a serious gaming machine, it will never be. I am surprised cod is even made on that thing.
 
That stage in Bakinour Cosmodrome looks awesome. But there's no way you could get that close to a rocket as it lifted off.
ROAD_DOGG33J
There was a story in MW2?
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Yep. A pretty dodgy one, but a story no less. It felt like half the writers were constantly trying to push the envelope, to see just how far they could go, whilst the other half were frantically grabbing at their collars, trying to pull them back to reality. Everything started to go downhill after that mission in Kazakhstan, the one that ends with the snowmobile chase.

It's a shame, because the basic premise - provoking someone into starting a war as an excuse to retaliate with a definitive show of force - is an interesting one. The writers just handled it completely the wrong way. They kept setting Makarov up as the villain, and then he disappeared for half the game before Sheppard came out of nowhere.

If I were the one writing it, I would have kept the characters constant. Makarov and Shephard would merge; he'd be an older character, hell-bent on establishing "order" with a dominant display of military aggression designed to remind the world of the Russia that once was. The only problem is that as his sanity declines, so does his support in Russia and he struggles to maintain order. I'd get rid of the horrible Washington missions and replace them with a series strung across Russia where the player would have to unite disinfatuated loyalist factions together in an attempt to squeeze Makarov against a contingent coming from the West, led by General Sheppard - who has taken Makarov's propaganda and party line to heart and intends to set of a nuclear device in Moscow as retaliation for the strike in the first game.

CAMAROBOY69
The remote control explosive cars reminds me of Frontlines Fuel Of War.
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Really? I reminds me of the fifth Dirty Harry film, THE DEAD POOL. As original as it was, it felt a little lame then, too.

I'm also very curious as to what that thermal camera device is.
 
That little jump and prone move looks like it will be good. I cant drop shot, so that seems like it would make it easier. I am looking forward to this game because you learn from your mistakes(MW2), and for this game to be worse than that game you would have to TRY to suck. I will definitely be in the 3.0+ KD/R club in this one.
 
The so called 'story' in MW2 - it wasn't even remotely interesting. I lost interest after that stupid snowmobile chase. After that I just played through the game for the sake of it, and admit there were one or two interesting bits. The one in DC where you storm the Whitehouse in a blackout with helicopters falling all around you, and the bit on an oil rig. The end boat chase is memorable because it was so terrible - a simple water based arcade race to be honest. Don't remember much in between because, like I said, I just couldn't follow the story it was so bad.
Goes to show that if you are going to put all your effort into making an FPS shooter as explosive as possible, you at least need to make a decent single player story as well as a good online mode. It's funny - even though MW2 was so obviously designed as an online shooter first and a single player game second, the online mode wasn't even as good as it's predecessor. MW1 had a good single player story and a decent online mode in equal measure.
Here's hoping COD: Black Ops is as good, if not better.
 
I'm going to try, the night vision goggles were ok but didn't function. If this were to work decent it would be pretty cool to have, and it would be cheaper than building one really. It all depends on if I can find a job before the game is released.
 
breakpoint
I'm going to try, the night vision goggles were ok but didn't function. If this were to work decent it would be pretty cool to have, and it would be cheaper than building one really. It all depends on if I can find a job before the game is released.
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Good luck. I'm trying to find a part time job and it's tough. Out of desperation I tried to get a part time position at NAPA and I saw an applicant who had a PhD and another who was a ASE certified master tech going for the same position.
 
dave_sz
Good luck. I'm trying to find a part time job and it's tough. Out of desperation I tried to get a part time position at NAPA and I saw an applicant who had a PhD and another who was a ASE certified master tech going for the same position.
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Believe me, I know. I was laid off almost 8 months ago and haven't been able to find anything. My wife was just given 30 days, which the union is fighting it for her right now, we also have 3 kids. I don't even have xbl right now because I just couldn't afford another card, and the cable/internet has been cut off (thanks to backtrack4 live cd, I have net:sly:) So, yes it's hard to find a job right now, especially when you have kids because daycare just costs too much. I have been going around trying to cut yards for 20 dollars front and back, it takes about an hour the typical yard and isn't fun but its at least a little money...
 
I dont think i will get the prestige edition here in Australia when it would cost $225, I'm more concerned about paying off my $300 GT5 signature edition.

I'll might get standard version in the future, more like when i finish GT5.
 
I see no point to get this. They still haven't fixed the needed issues with MW2.

However, since I have a 14 year-old who just started high school, I'm sure he'll want a copy. He'll have to buy it on his own. I'm not getting this. If he doesn't have it by Christmans, I might get it for him, but I highly doubt it.

Has a weapons list been made, yet?
 
This is a different company than the one that made MW2. From what I understand they're working very hard to make sure that none of the issues that were in MW2 are in this game.
 
Time_Attack
This is a different company than the one that made MW2. From what I understand they're working very hard to make sure that none of the issues that were in MW2 are in this game.
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Especially boosters :)
 
I even hear that they're on top of the tenth prestige hacks. I'm sure some asshole will come up with a new way to do it but they say they're putting a lot of things in the game to counter stuff like that. They're going so far as to put blocks in the game that will lay dormant until someone finds an exploit and then they can counter it almost right away.
 
i'd just be happy if i could just turn the 360 on and be able to find a match right away instead of needing wait to find a match outside of my ping range :(
 
Solid Lifters
I see no point to get this. They still haven't fixed the needed issues with MW2.

However, since I have a 14 year-old who just started high school, I'm sure he'll want a copy. He'll have to buy it on his own. I'm not getting this. If he doesn't have it by Christmans, I might get it for him, but I highly doubt it.

Has a weapons list been made, yet?
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Like said, MW2 has zero to do with Black Ops, they are two different companies that are under Activision. IW were the one's who made COD4 and had a hit with it, then Treyarch did the next which was World at war, then of course it was IW's turn again and they did MW2. MW2 was a turd that was extremely chrome like in sheen, it had all the cool stuff that you would look at and think, wow this game is going to be so good! But after playing it for a while I started to change my mind because of things like, them not having sway or little to no recoil in the guns. A perk which makes you teleport through bullets to knife someone, a perk that allows you to refill your grenade launcher over and over and just spam the map pissing everyone off. The list goes on for a while, everyone knows the problems I'm sure. IW hasn't fixed anything because some of them were fired for trying to start a side company and basically using the COD game engine for the new game, which is for sure not allowed in the contract with Activision:dunce:



So Treyarch has done something extremely smart, they have looked at all of the problems and all of the complaints from the community with MW2 and they have fixed them if what they have is similar, or they have completely done different things. I have really high hopes for this COD, Treyarch has always been really good at balancing weapons as well, IW isn't at all which is why everyone uses the same weapons because there are some that are just pure ownage and if they aren't then they are so bad you can't use them. If I get the job I have an interview for (Toyota engine building plant) then I will be pre-ordering the prestige edition. It comes with the RC car that has a video camera and audio on it and the controller has a video screen so you can watch and all while your driving it, my kids will love that. And to make one it would cost more than the 149.95 and you get a game and extra zombie maps and all when you get the hardened or prestige edition:tup:
 

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