Calling all online racing purists...

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E.g, sports tyres on sports cars, racing tyres on racing cars (obviously), more than 3 laps per race, non modded cars and enjoy lower PP races sometimes (300PP-400PP).

Can you please PM me with your PSN so I can get a decent race online?

If you host rooms a lot I would like to hear from you too. I can't usually keep to certain times of the tons of championships on the net so would just like to have some online friends with the same tastes in racing. 👍
 
Add me i'm sick of laggers and newbies in all these rooms and im always looking for the next bigger challenge.
 
less pp more skill. Add me please :)



Add me i'm sick of laggers and newbies in all these rooms and im always looking for the next bigger challenge.

Cool I'll add you when I'm next on.

take a look at this link, sounds like its for you.

The last week racing was very clean and very fun. We used 475pp MX5's with SS tyres last week.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198400

Doesn't really interest me thanks anyway. I still love all the tracks and don't like racing in tuned cars.
 
Feel free to check out the link in my sig. After three races this season and an average margin of victory of less than a tenth of a second, the racing is just plain good. ;)
 
Which racing cars come stock under 400 PP?
 
Which racing cars come stock under 400 PP?

Spoon S2000
Gathers Civic
RM Civic
RM Cappuccino
Cup Cars
Some older racing cars... etc etc.

It was just an estimated 400. One of the RM Elise comes just over 400 so a bit of weight on it and it would be OK.
 
I don't even know what a purist is actually.
But I'm interested in racing more ordinary road cars.

I realize many people don't think that's interesting... that any car under 450pp... actually that any car under 500pp, is a mystery to them. They call them "filler cars"... or I've seen people say "there's no cars (or not many cars) to choose from under 500pp"... when from what I've seen, most of the road cars are stock under 400pp.

Obviously I don't think it's interesting if you have cars that come stock at 330pp racing against stock 480pp... duh. Of course a BMW M3 is going to beat an antique Golf. LOL

But I for one would love to race commuter cars. LOL.
And like the cup cars - love the lupo & whatnot.

I like small cars, road cars, saloon cars, antique cars (of all types - from low hp to muscle), commuter cars, kei cars.
I'm not into stock cars or modern race cars much.

Which racing cars come stock under 400 PP?

Were you being cheeky? Because there are several!

less pp more skill. Add me please :)

Yes, please. Not that I'm very skillfull. LOL. At least not yet.
But if by this you mean driving strategically, NOT getting a mechanical advantage and driving aggressively from sloppy corner to sloppy corner... then I'm on the same page.

I still love all the tracks and don't like racing in tuned cars.

This might sound like a stupid question... What do you mean by "tuned"? Like no adjustable LSD or suspension?
 
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Yes, please. Not that I'm very skillfull. LOL. At least not yet.
But if by this you mean driving strategically, NOT getting a mechanical advantage and driving aggressively from sloppy corner to sloppy corner... then I'm on the same page.

This might sound like a stupid question... What do you mean by "tuned"? Like no adjustable LSD or suspension?

pretty much, yes. I would say im an "ok" driver. But its far more interesting to play this game as simulation like as you can get.
For me there is no point in using the controller, put skid recovery on and blast everybody away in a LMS Car.
Its getting interesting though if you compete in a lower pp spec as it suddenly really matters if you took an uphill corner with 10 miles less than you should have as the car will struggle with acceleration (instead of a LMS Car which will stop accelarating after you left moons orbit).
Because of the low pp you are suddenly seconds off. Be as carefull and precicse as you can (im greedy though :P) and plan the spot where you overtake. dont overdo it. etc..
 
If you host rooms a lot I would like to hear from you too. I can't usually keep to certain times of the tons of championships on the net so would just like to have some online friends with the same tastes in racing. 👍
You don't have your PSN listed here but are you the JEMCIV that showed up in my Toscana room last night? If that was you, I'm sorry but we were all leaving to go to the 450PP Street room just as you showed up. Check in on that thread, we'll be at the Ring tonight... and of course you're welcome to join my Toscana room next Tuesday as well. :)
 
Were you being cheeky? Because there are several!

I was serious. I discount any of the 17 cars you have race modify (since you cannot buy them in such conditio) or any tuners, so based on the results... the Motul civic and the Gathers Civic are the two I've come up with. You could engine limit several others to make the Point, but cars starting at under 400 PP that you purchase as race cars...I'm just not seeing it.

MGTs not that great a resource because several cars are missing starting PP, so I'll look for another list and do some research
 
I like racing Classic Le Mans, Modern LM GT, LM Prototypes, DTM, Muscle(not just on Daytona), Supercars, and im up for just about anything. Hit me up for some fun racing im always looking for some new people to race with, i have too many friends who race Muscle Cars at Daytona.
 
Feel free to check out the link in my sig. After three races this season and an average margin of victory of less than a tenth of a second, the racing is just plain good. ;)

I second this. Tried Turbo's MX-5 GT class out for the first time, and even though I did horribly, it was still a blast. I'm looking forward to more races in his series...

Also, there's a 450pp club thread that I would wager you'd be interested in. Shouldn't be too hard to find, as they're pretty active. Wide variety of racing in that they do theme nights. (Muscle cars, hatchbacks, 80's, etc.) Production cars generally get restricted to Sport Tyres or lower, etc...

Edit: Graham already posted the link to the 450pp club...
 
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For me there is no point in using the controller, put skid recovery on and blast everybody away in a LMS Car.

I think that's mostly silly teenagers who do that sort of thing.
It's like the x210 or whatever race car that's not even real - it's a fantasy race car. Any race car I can drive easily is NOT realistic by any stretch of the imagination. LOL

That said, I only notice that SRF helps on dirt tracks. I feel NO help from it on regular road cars!!

Its getting interesting though if you compete in a lower pp spec as it suddenly really matters if you took an uphill corner with 10 miles less than you should have as the car will struggle with acceleration (instead of a LMS Car which will stop accelarating after you left moons orbit).
Because of the low pp you are suddenly seconds off. Be as carefull and precicse as you can (im greedy though :P) and plan the spot where you overtake. dont overdo it. etc..

Yes I agree.
I'm not a very good driver at all.
And I didn't understand before WHY I have more "fun" with lower pp road cars. But now I think I do.
There's more to the experience at a lower HP, for example. At high speeds in a race car... I feel like it's only about - just not losing control, and maybe having a better race car? Or at least having a race car that conforms to my driving style. And then you're set. You just need some practice, and can "get through".
In lower pp road cars - then NOT making mistakes is the most pertinent issue. And trying to make up for the mistakes when you do make them.
There's more back & forth because of that.

I think the main (maybe only?) attraction of race cars is the "sense of speed". (My bf seems to get a kick out of that more than I do. In some cases it's not more exciting, it just makes me sick. LOL)

I've been in lower pp online pub races with "lesser" cars, and able to keep up with and pass performance sports cars because the sports car driver kept making sloppy corners & big mistakes.
I've also been in lower pp online races where I was in a better car and lost to a better driver in a "lesser" car, ironically, because I was going too fast!!

(im greedy though :P) and plan the spot where you overtake. dont overdo it. etc..

LOL - you ARE greedy. You're also a risk taker. ;)

(And you drive the midget way too well. HAHA. NO ONE ought to be able to drive a midget that well. You must share your tuning secret!!)

I'm not much of a risk taker, which is why I drive like a grandma - too slow. But my main objective in online races is to NOT get bullied! LOL I really hate getting banged around or swooped off balance, by close or unclean passes (or worse, people battering me on purpose!)... so I tend to choose cars that are STABLE, and hard for anyone to knock me off-balance. But I sacrifice even more speed for that unfortunately.
But I think it's the right choice until I feel more comfortable racing with other people.
I think I need more online practice with ONE-make races, to get more experience with pushing & risking.

Muscle(not just on Daytona)
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i have too many friends who race Muscle Cars at Daytona.

What is that? I understand that lots of people find the muscle cars on daytona fun, and I'm not discounting that, I see the appeal, it's legitimate. But I would never want a straight diet of it.

I really enjoy using the old 60s/70s muscle cars on other tracks - like regular road tracks type. But I don't see anything about anyone doing that. ANd I don't mean the indy road course! (The indy road course in the seasonal muscle car I used my cougar & it made me car sick LOL)

Like I think a great race would be using tracks like laguna, fuji or even deep forest, with the big old wallowy type of antique muscle cars like the cougar, the charger & the super bee.
Can you imagine having a race on Cote d'azur with the super bee unmodified & on comfort softs? LOL Now that would be entertainment!! :D

Also, there's a 450pp club thread that I would wager you'd be interested in.

It should be NOTED that this is a TUNERS club. Taking an unmodified vehicle into that race with no upgrades would be a recipe for disaster.
So if you hate tuned cars, that's not the club for you.
Personally I would try either tuned or un-tuned - so long as everyone was on the same page.
But that's definitely not a place to take a stock vehicle. It's the 450pp TUNERS club. And they REALLY mean it! :D
I have a feeling that everyone gets their cars all hopped up as much as possible, and then restricts down to 450pp.

Oh, and what I find most interesting is the people who will say "But there's no cars to choose from under 500pp".
What are they talking about? From what I see, there's WAY more road cars (available in the game) UNDER 450pp to choose from than over 450pp.
I think a 300pp tuners club would probably gather a much WIDER variety in choices of vehicles. haha. Granted, they would NOT be performance vehicles by any stretch of the imagination - most would handle very poorly - but there's be a wider variety to choose & try & tackle.
 
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Taking an unmodified vehicle into that race with no upgrades would be a recipe for disaster.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly. Have you joined one of the 450pp meets yet? I won't speak for everyone else, because you're probably partially right... I bet many of them have modded their cars. However, I have several cars that have no mods that I use in that group.

Referring to the posts that you and I exchanged last week regarding Nürburgring night. The M3 I won with is completely stock (though I did have to dial the power down a bit to get it to 450PP. I'd have added weight, but then the suspension would need an upgrade to maintain good handling... and as I said, I haven't put any parts on it). The Golf R32 is also nearly stock (It's at 444PP with upgraded cpu, cold air intake, and sport cat).

Personally I take even more joy in finding cars that are competitive with that group without me having to do more than an oil change and tires. 👍
 
I wouldn't jump to conclusions so quickly. Have you joined one of the 450pp meets yet? I won't speak for everyone else, because you're probably partially right... I bet many of them have modded their cars. However, I have several cars that have no mods that I use in that group.

Referring to the posts that you and I exchanged last week regarding Nürburgring night. The M3 I won with is completely stock (though I did have to dial the power down a bit to get it to 450PP. I'd have added weight, but then the suspension would need an upgrade to maintain good handling... and as I said, I haven't put any parts on it). The Golf R32 is also nearly stock (It's at 444PP with upgraded cpu, cold air intake, and sport cat).

Personally I take even more joy in finding cars that are competitive with that group without me having to do more than an oil change and tires. 👍

Well, all you said I believe is true.
But you have to admit that even stock, the M3 is just a better handling car when restricted down to 450pp than say taking a car that comes stock 445pp.

That was my point.
You can't expect to just buy a used car at around 450pp & throw it into the 450pp tuners club, and expect to run with the big dogs in highly tuned cars or non-tuned high performance cars (like M3s or lotus or what have you).

That was my only point only because the OP mentioned PREFERRING to race with people who do NOT modify their cars. Meaning no tuning. Assuming he meant not even an adjustable LSD or sports suspension.... let alone sports intake/exhaust.

I think it would be folly to join something called a "TUNERS club", and think your opponents are driving stock cars - completely unmodified cars.

That's all I meant.
FYI: b4 I came to GTP forum, I'd raced in the tuners club open lobbies and they were the ONLY pub lobby games I thought the people were friendly, and not ridiculous.... you know driving road cars that were really road cars not high performance cars & calling them road cars LOL so I'm definitely not knocking the 450pp tuners club. I haven't tried in awhile because it's at the time my bf is usually playing on the ps3, or we're watching movies, etc.

I would highly recommend the club, actually. But not to someone who wants to race in unmodified stock road vehicles.

Here's a thread that explains the issue quite well:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=196351&highlight=peace

:)

Interestingly, it's by a regular host (the organizer?) of the 450pp tuners club. :D

Can't play a player I guess. ;) (J/K)
 
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That was my point.
You can't expect to just buy a used car at around 450pp & throw it into the 450pp tuners club, and expect to run with the big dogs in highly tuned cars or non-tuned high performance cars (like M3s or lotus or what have you).
You're absolutely right, but it's pretty difficult in general to find completely stock cars that are 450PP. The best you could hope for is one that either needs just a part or two to get it in the zone or one that needs the power dropped just a bit. Though, I do have an RX-7 that is exactly 450PP with 100% power and nothing on it.

But I get what you're trying to say... I think that most of the people in that room would STILL add all the drivetrain and suspension mods they can to make it accelerate and handle better. Again, I prefer to just leave things alone. I only really get heavy into tweaking race cars... things like my M3 and RX-7 I prefer to drive them as they are without altering any of their original driving characteristics.

Also, you should kick your BF off some nights and come back to the 450 club. Or you could definitely join us for my Tuesday night gathering (in my sig) where I tend to place emphasis on stock street cars. :)👍
 
Damn PSN, I want to add you guys!
 
E.g, sports tyres on sports cars, racing tyres on racing cars (obviously), more than 3 laps per race, non modded cars and enjoy lower PP races sometimes (300PP-400PP).

Can you please PM me with your PSN so I can get a decent race online?

If you host rooms a lot I would like to hear from you too. I can't usually keep to certain times of the tons of championships on the net so would just like to have some online friends with the same tastes in racing. 👍

I only have stock road cars in my garage with the exception of 2 JDM tuned cars and some race cars, i love low PP racing with hot hatchs, muscles, etc... Add me PSN: eldioni30
 
You're absolutely right, but it's pretty difficult in general to find completely stock cars that are 450PP. The best you could hope for is one that either needs just a part or two to get it in the zone or one that needs the power dropped just a bit.

Yeah, well I meant 450pp ballpark basically. You get the point, I think.

Frankly, there's more road cars in the 350-420pp range available in the game than any other range!

The choice of cars in the 450-475pp range that you can power limit down (unmodified) is, IMHO, very limited. Limited even more by the fact that many of those cars that are in that range handle crappy. LOL (IMHO)
(Point being that if you go into a game, and see an M3, it doesn't make you want to get out your crappy handling car & try to be an underdog against a hard core gamer in an M3. LOL)

But I get what you're trying to say... I think that most of the people in that room would STILL add all the drivetrain and suspension mods they can to make it accelerate and handle better

Exactly. And there's no way to restrict out tuning upgrades in an online race. It's an honour system only restriction.

And I know that when people see 450pp... They don't get a car that's 420pp & just mod it up to 450pp with a few upgrades. They FULLY modify it, and then limit it down into the 450pp restriction.
And that makes a big difference in some lower-performance cars. A racing flywheel, fully adjustable LSD can make some crappy cars very drivable.

Again, I prefer to just leave things alone. I only really get heavy into tweaking race cars... things like my M3 and RX-7 I prefer to drive them as they are without altering any of their original driving characteristics.

Yeah, but the M3 is drivable AS IS. Without some of the mods that less-performing cars NEED in order to not be completely difficult to handle. LOL :D "Original driving characteristics" can be WILDLY different from car to car.
 
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One make races or tested close regulated races are for racing purists, both of which me and my team run :)

Clio Trophy @ https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=190628

BTCC @ https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198989

I love the Clio - I hope there'll be another series, as I only got gt5 a couple of months ago, and missed getting in on that.
(I like hatches. Clio & Lupo particularly.)

But I've wondered why it's called "Clio Trophy" when the race is NOT using the Trophy racecar, right?
 
Hey there is a group that 200MphFord made in relation to this thread. Can all that are still interested join the group and add everyone.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/group.php?groupid=417

Just to be clear, there probably won't be many championships set up, it's just so we are all friends because we have a similar idea about how we like the race and the cars to be set up.

I do appreciate there are lots of brilliant online championships set up, but I can't commit to any.
 
480pp and Sports hard is about as high as I enjoy going. Hope to add some of you :)
 
Hey, I frequently host Clean Nascar Rooms and the odd Clean Shuffle Room. Sadly, I only have a few Clean Nascar friends who always seem to be offline...As it happens, I'm stuck with noob racers and those looking to spoil the party.

So, I'd like to join too and add me?
 
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