Can you do the nurburgring without crashing or spinning out

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I know i definetly can't i always push it too hard shout Damn! And keep going
It's rare for me to get it right unless its a slow car
 
Yeah...I'd say a majority of players on GTP can do alot of tracks without crashing.
 
I use the driving line. It`s easier that way. I use racing softs too. And practice, practice, practice, it helps :D
 
When you've clocked up thousands of virtual miles around it since GT4 it becomes easy to do a whole 4 hour race around there without crashing, so long as the AI don't put you into a wall!

The only car in my garage I can't manage a clean lap with is the Cobra. I can barely keep it clean around Grand Valley.
 
I almost never go off the track unless I am using a fast or difficult car. On some corners I will go a little bit slower then I should but on the whole I still go relatively fast.

Play a lot of racing games though. :sly:
 
I use the driving line. It`s easier that way. I use racing softs too. And practice, practice, practice, it helps :D

I only ever use racing softs there, Havent been able to do anything but crash on anything else. But yes, I actually got so bored one night, I pulled out my Audi R10, on time change and weather change and did an hour of non stop racing in Cockpit view round the 'Ring. Needless to say I know the track pretty well, as do most other racers here, and I can pull of quite clean laps consistantly, unless Im testing a new car a push it just a little too hard and get airbourne and end up in teh grass...

EDIT: I dont use driving line though...
 
i must have racked up at least 500 virtual laps of the nordschleife since the earlier GT's
in this particular case - practice makes perfect.
start with slower cars, dont focus on your times, instead focus on your lines through each corner and leading to the next. each lap, turn up your speed dial a notch.
nordschleife is all about corner entry / exit, so having your lines well established is essential.

hope that helps
 
Pretty consistent now.

Mclaren F1 700bhp, racing softs though.

F40.. love the car but always loose it Aarrggghhh
 
Can you do the nurburgring without crashing or spinning out?

Yes, I can. I've spent much time with this track on GT5, from time trials, online racing, to the special and seasonal events.

My speed around the track in certain areas is not the greatest with certain cars(Ford GT) though, but it is improving.👍

Practice goes a long way.👍 :)
 
Yes
It isn´t a big challenge anymore. GT4 It was my test track where I tested all Cars on
=> that was my track learning

GT5 has some differences in it => I had to adapt to that

And due to the abusage of this track in Online-Lobbies it´s no problem anymore and I think it´s quite easy.
But if I push sometimes errors occure (I´m still human xDD) but only at certain places:
Near the end of the Track---> After Pflanzgarten1 or before that at Brünnchen (The sectors after the first carousel are my error places if I push the Car to the limits)
 
Yes
It isn´t a big challenge anymore. GT4 It was my test track where I tested all Cars on
=> that was my track learning

GT5 has some differences in it => I had to adapt to that

And due to the abusage of this track in Online-Lobbies it´s no problem anymore and I think it´s quite easy.
But if I push sometimes errors occure (I´m still human xDD) but only at certain places:
Near the end of the Track---> After Pflanzgarten1 or before that at Brünnchen (The sectors after the first carousel are my error places if I push the Car to the limits)

Abit more practice, you will be fine. 👍
 
So long as Murphy's Law doesn't come into effect and the car I'm driving has been adequately tamed (i.e. isn't a Yellowbird), I can make a clean lap.

I like the track (particularly at night, given my PS3 isn't making the track disappear TXR3 style) but I dislike how used it is. For my own uses, Trial Mountain serves the exact same purpose and gives me feedback on whether I've done something good for the car almost instantly.
 
Mostly yes, unless I'm driving a yellowbird or an F40 etc. In that case, I can't guarantee anything.
 
I only go off if I push way too hard on comfort tires or if I'm driving the 90h8
 
still there are a corner or 2 that i might drive a grass by taking a wide line to avoid stability problems,but other than that,i dont crash
Using R3s without driving line.
 
only if im racing a noticeably faster car and i start to over-drive mine trying to keep up/stay ahead.
 
I think the biggest problem with the nurb is when you're racing people, a lot of them will try to overtake you at place you simply can't without pushing the other car into the grass.

For me the hardest skill to gain on the nurb is the ability to pass people cleanly. If you can master that you're a true nurb racer.
 
The trick is to drive within your ability. If you don't know a section of the track it's madness to go all in and think you're gonna make it. It's better to go 90% or 80% , and gradually increase the pace as you get to know the track better.

It's also a good thing to do when racing online, or in rain. It's madness to go three cars wide through the Swedencross at full speed, the risk is much too high that that you'll spin off and lose 10 seconds. Calculate your risks and back off a bit instead, that way you'll lose about half a second, but you're sure to make it through.

Some number crunching:
Say that a track has 10 corners. If you go full speed through you have 50% risk of spinning out in each of the corners. Spinning out costs you an average of ten seconds. We can assume that you will spin out in 5 of the corners, costing you 50 seconds per lap.
If you back off and drive well within the marigins, you have 10% risk of spinning out in each corner. But you will also lose two seconds in each corner because you don't go full speed through. That way we can assume that you will lose 20 seconds for the lower speed and 10 seconds for a spin in one of the corners, in which case you lose 30 seconds per lap.

Conclusion: Drive within your limits and play it safe. From my experience, it's the fast laps who wins online at the ring, but it's the safe and clean laps that grabs the silver.

(Also think about this when selecting car. Pick a car that you can drive, rather than a fast car that you can't. And if you still pick a car that you can't drive, play it safe and get to know the car before you floor it)

I think the biggest problem with the nurb is when you're racing people, a lot of them will try to overtake you at place you simply can't without pushing the other car into the grass.

For me the hardest skill to gain on the nurb is the ability to pass people cleanly. If you can master that you're a true nurb racer.

You can approach these situations in either one of these ways:

1. You want to have a good lap

2. You want to make a statement

If it's 1, then again, it's about calculating the risks. There's always two cars involved in overtaking, and if you feel that the car behind you is risking too much in attempting to overtake, then step aside and let him through. If you want to have a fast lap, then the risk of not letting the other car pass is too high because you might get pushed off the road and there goes your lap. Also, if the car behind you actually is that much faster than you on the track, then there is no reason for you to obstruct him, because sooner or later he will make a pass anyway. Be a gentleman and give room.

If it's 2, on the other hand, and you want to make a statement out if it, then simply let the other car take the two of you out on the grass for a little pic-nic together.

About passing cleanly, you said it already, but it's about knowing where is a good place to make a pass, and plan your driving well ahead. There's a lot of tricks, you can for instance stress the other driver to make mistakes, you can trick him to cover up the inside when in fact you want to pass on the outside, and so on. Be creative! A single great overtake on the ring can feel more as a victory than finishing 1st :)
 
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I know i definetly can't i always push it too hard shout Damn! And keep going
It's rare for me to get it right unless its a slow car

I can complete Nordschleife without crashing in cars under 500-600 HP w/ Default tires equipped (unless it's a non-production). Anything over makes me have a tendency to crash, like LMPs for instance.

And I agree with Eran. Just pace through the track and as you get a familiarization on all or most of the corners, then you can gradually raise your pacing until you go for 100% pace. And through the process you can build on your rhythm, which is a key for going through Nordschleife.
 
It depends on the car I'm driving. Higher PP cars scare the **** out of me when driving the Ring.
 
Yes. And, so does everyone else who got the GTR Trophy.
 
Yes, I've had enough practice on that track from Gran Turismo 4 to know just about every corner. At least in a video game.

One of my favorite cars to race on the ring is the VW Lupo Cup Car, you can go pretty much flat out through the whole track with that thing.
 
practice practice practice. That pretty much sums it up..

But yeah, I'm with the OP, I can't manage doing the 'ring without crashing (especially in LMP class cars, that recent seasonal event was a bugger! but I did gold it after several tries)

I do ,however, REALLY enjoy driving it with the Lotus Evora, great handling car and not too fast to handle.

GT5 is the first gran turismo I've played, and the first time I raced the nurburgring, I thought "how long is this freaking track! how to hell to people do this!!" but now its one of my favorite tracks! For the same reasons, because its so long and it's like driving down a winding road in the country, as fast as you can!
 
I can if it's a low powered car like a Miata. If I have a high powered car I always overcook it and crash.
 
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After so many laps, I memorized every corner and bend so I always know what's coming up. Of course, I never push 100% pace right away unless I know the car pretty well.

Oh, and for those practicing on RS tires, you should try Comforts or Sport Hards. With any decently powered car (I would say 400hp max), you will learn a lot about the course with less grip available.
 
I spend most of my time at the ring so, yes i can.

In fact (as with all tracks in the game), I can visualize the circuit, in my mind.:sly:

Can't wait to go there for real. I'll probably mess it up then :scared:

Oh, and it depends how many boozy drinks i've had. 1 - 3, not bad. 4+, I start to deteriorate.
 
Slow down, and downgrade both tires and hp. Stop worrying about lap times and getting the corners perfect. The only truly "right" way to take a corner is to come out of it unscathed, every time. The Nordschleife teaches you this like no other track. Once you can go through the whole track with virtually no incidents every time, then you start finding all kinds of really easy places to go faster, and take huge chunks out of your time.

When racing against the AI in really fast cars, just relax even more. If you don't crash, they'll pass themselves for you(a bit like many online opponents, but not quite the same way). I think PD knows how challenging the track is and decided to make the AI drive just fast enough for you to need to run fairly clean laps, and no faster. Either that or their AI is just really bad, but they seem even worse here.

Bottom line, it just takes practice. Real practice, not simply repetition.
 
I sometimes dream the entire track..

so yes, I can.

It helps that it and all it's variations are the only tracks in the game (?). ;)
 
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