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Can you tell the difference between an ingame pic and a pic from an FMC sequence? I'm only asking because CobraGT can't see ther diference and has been trying his best (bles im) to flame me cos I know the difference and he does'nt.
 
ok here goes.

pic one is blurry looking image of a clip of rendered streamed footage from a video sequence showing pit lane refuelling.

pic two is a crisp clear image of a snapshot of ingame/replay footage at new york track.

That settle it?
 
Have you not seen the videos?

Have you not seen them in motion, have you not seen the plotting of movements for the video stream?

Obviously you need yo go on the list with CobraGT.
 
Originally posted by F1man
It could be a render, but how are you so sure? You're not the one whos designing the game. :p
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It's definite, cos it's on a video clip in motion and I've got that clip on a DVD, thats how I'm so sure. You can download a clip with this on from a forum on this site I can't remember which but if anyone knows please post a link.
 
Let me get a shot at this :D
Ok check this out
In game
pitcrew1.jpg

Pitcrew scene
pitcrew2.jpg

Look the same
pitcrew3.jpg

pitcrew4.jpg

Look the same to me
pitcrew5.jpg

pitcrew6.jpg

Same looking ass LOL


Crowds
crowds.jpg

crowds2.jpg

Pitcrew models
pitcrew_models3.jpg

pitcrew_models2.jpg

The last one is a pit crew models being programmed, looks the same to me just doesn't have color but same shape and moves very realistic.
I really don't think any of that is FMV, I highly think that's real time but we will find out when we get the game but rest most def gt4 is the best looking game coming hands down, I love the photo realistic graphics. And I found out that the back grounds in gt4 aren't photos like some ppl assumed, PD made those out of their own skills, isn't that amazing?
pitcrew8.jpg

pitcrew9.jpg

I really see no difference in graphics
 
Those do look very ingame to me but of course i'll only believe it when I see it. I heard that the backgrounds are photos just obviously pixiled lol since it is in a game.. But who cares the game is looking freakin HOT!
 
Pic 1 = CG (Computer Generated)
Pic 2 = Real Time (PS2 Hardware)

Pic 3 = Real Time
Pic 4 = CG
Pic 5 = CG
Pic 6 = Real Time
Pic 7 = CG
Pic 8 = Real Time
Pic 9 = CG (Obviously)
Pic 10 = CG
Pic 11 = CG
Pic 12 = CG (Duh)
Pic 13 = Real Time
Pic 14 = CG

It is easy to tell the difference between a CG rendering and Real Time rendering using the PS2 hardware. CG has better lighting and textures because it does not need to render the scene on the fly. An easy way to tell the difference is to spot the PS2's weaknesses: Anti-Aliasing (lack of there-of) and lack of detailed textures.
 
lets stay nice, the fact is no one can tell for sure, me neither, but i gues we're all hopeing it's in-game right?:rolleyes: ;)
 
pitcrew8.jpg

pitcrew9.jpg

I really see no difference in graphics
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May be you need glasses, the quality of the lighting, shadows and modelling are a world apart.
Can Ye Not See!


And I found out that the back grounds in gt4 aren't photos like some ppl assumed, PD made those out of their own skills, isn't that amazing?
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It would be incredibly amazing if they wasted there time taking all those photos not to use them, and simply draw very detailed backgrounds instead wouldnt it.

Of course the backgrounds Are made up of the hundreds of photos, joined together then are digitally altered/sized/ touched up and mapped into the background, the same applies for the photo realistic sky/ cloud formations.

Or Is CobraGT Pulling My dangler!
 
I highly don't think the pitcrew scene is FMV, the GT40 looks the same in all the pic I posted. I would bet the pitcrew is real time but no one is 100% sure yet, yes the lighting is different because it's in a differnet location, do you expect the shadows and lighting to be the same on the track as it is in the pits? Who sees aliasing on a close up pic? You would see aliasing far away not close up. And the shots I compared to the pitcrew scene came from bad quality vids. If it's FMV I won't believe until PD says it is but I doubt it is because the car models look the same.
 
The pics you posted of the FMV are bad quality, if you post top quality pics of both and compare them the difference is plain.
 
But I doubt PD would make that video to mislead ppl whatout saying, hey that's FMV. I don't know what's going on but all of that looks the same, the car model looks the same. In the trailer you see the pit area boing programmed, why would PD spend that much time to make one FMV scene, I think that's very stupid no offense. It's too early for a intro and the game comes out in 04. That could be the gt4 engine for all we know but no one knows but PD but I would bet that is ingame.
 
They made the video as part of the promo video and they should'nt have to say it's an FMV, no company has ever done that why would PD start.
 
The pit crew pictures are CG, it's unbelievably obvious. If you look closely to the GT-40 in the CG pit crew pictures, there are multiple, higher quality light sources and textures on the car. If it was in game, all it is is a reflection map and maybe 2 light sources.

If you look at the comparison GTXLR posted, you can blatantly see the differences between an in game GT-40 and a CG GT-40.
 
And you may not know it but even FMV sequences have animted people moving round and being programmed and that animation clip proves nothing, as for it being stupid, it's part of a promotion video so it's not stupid for then to make that.
 
Nope, first pic is in game the second is FMV. Stick to comapring the GT40 with a GT40 for most obviouse differences, You have a good quality in game shot with a low quality shot from the FMV scene.
 
I suppose you think this is an ingame shot as well.
 
Yep, it's a real Skyline pasted on, as for your comparison I can see a difference, the texture quality is higher, and look at the lights.
 
Stop arguing u sound like a bunch of woman. The only way u will no is when the game comes out. And why would PD post somthing like that if it would not apear in the game, dos't feel like PDs style to do some thing like that.
 
All I got to say is everything looks the same to me. PD aren't the type to mislead ppl and I didn't see any promo vids of gt3, did anyone else see promos. The pitcrew scene is amazing no lie but compared to the lastes gt4 demo it looks no different, that could be how the gt4 engine will look in final form and if IF that was CG regular gt4 sure as hell is comparable to that but I doubt is is CG. Just look at the shot of the gt40 on the Tsukuba track, looks exactly the same and someone talks about lighting, why would the lighting and shadowing be the smae in a different location? Many sites have said gt4's lighting was super realistic and I see now why they say that and I'm yet to see a gaming site say it's CG, or PD claim that it is. Look at the pitcrew and animated crowds being programmed, the only diffenerence I see is the pitcrew ones have color, the pitcrews won't look like the ones in nascar ok. PD does their work with perfection.
 
Notice on the in game pic Cobra posted, there are jaggies near the windshield. Notice on the CG pic, no jaggies.

Please use spell check, James1985. What are you talking about what shouldn't be shown because it doesn't appear in the game? The FMV? PD has used FMV since the original game, most noticeably in the intro FMV. Why should they not use it to promote GT4? It's easier to use CG instead of programming the game engine.
 
Originally posted by cobragt
and someone talks about lighting, why would the lighting and shadowing be the smae in a different location?
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No.

Different lighting as if it was rendered on more powerful hardware, not location.
 

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