@Alex1369 - Oh trust me, over 80 hours of gameplay is hardly "trying it before starting it". When you try something for over 80 hours an see little to no progress after hour 50 or so, it's time to call it quits. And btw golding nurburgring in 1 hour is impossible with a controller. People stop saying, "you can do it, because I did it" that is not a valid excuse. What if you are naturally better than me? There probably are things I can do that some of you will never do exactly alike. We are all different and have different skill sets, some of which are dimensions apart and no amount of practice will lessen said gap. The reason I vote and believe that the times for gold should be increased is for players like us that like racing but are not racing enthusiasts like some of the people here. Denying content for software you payed for is not a very smart move, since there are a lot of ds3 users like me. I'm sure the "It has to be a challenge" excuse will arise, but let me tell you, even with 2 seconds added to gold times the challenge is still a very tough challenge. But the times right now have it near impossible for controller users. The fact that you guys are better than me will not change if the gold times changes. There is no reason one person should be over 80 hours trying to gold a challenge to no avail and injuring his right wrist in the process. Some of us will never be able to achieve gold, period. My advice to all of you that will try, is to leave the challenge as the very very last thing you do, hence, if you never get gold (like me) at least you enjoyed the rest of the game.