Channel Your Inner MI6 Agent With the Best of Bond Car Pack for FH4

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Am I the only one who got excited for the BMW Z3 1.8i and the 750iL? :lol:

They had a chance to make something really unique :( However, this is one epic pack. I'm itching for this game more and more.
 
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Or the BMW 750iL from Tomorrow Never Dies. Love that scene when Q delivers it to Bond. :D

YES. The lack of '90s Euro and Japanese* luxobarges in modern games is appalling.

*Obviously we know why you don't see any first or second gen Lexus LS 400s, but that doesn't explain the dearth of E38s, W140 S-Classes, D2 A8s/S8s (Ronin anyone?), X308 XJs, G50 Q45s...
 
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You need Ultimate Edition or buy the pack separately. So it is not free stuff. Micro Transactions?

Doesn't really fit the definition for MTX - which usually allow the player to buy cosmetic or consumable items (that in most cases could otherwise be unlocked through normal gameplay progression) one-by-one from an in-game marketplace. I'd say that it's more of a proper DLC, considering it comes with 10 cars that are otherwise inaccessible to players.

Also consider that the Ultimate Edition is cheaper than the Standard + VIP, Car Pass and the likely cost of the two expansions. So, it's really more of an extra zero-cost perk of the Ultimate (together with early access) than a DLC. That is, of course, until it hits the Marketplace.
 
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Doesn't really fit the definition for MTX - which usually allow the player to buy cosmetic or consumable items (that in most cases could otherwise be unlocked through normal gameplay progression) one-by-one from an in-game marketplace. I'd say that it's more of a proper DLC, considering it comes with 10 cars that are otherwise inaccessible to players.

Also consider that the Ultimate Edition is cheaper than the Standard + VIP, Car Pass and the likely cost of the two expansions. So, it's really more of an extra zero-cost perk of the Ultimate (together with early access) than a DLC. That is, of course, until it hits the Marketplace.
I know what MTX are. Let's be honest. Forza games had MTX on every X-Box One game but FM7. With Tokens you could bought everything but the DLC content. That is why I asked why MTX? Ok, I did not ask why.
You can consider it for free but you still need to pay for it... so it is not free.

Day One Car Pack is not the Formula Drift Car Pack, which doesn't need an extra money.. just the pre-order status.
 

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Am I the only one who got excited for the BMW Z3 1.8i and the 750iL? :lol:

They had a chance to make something really unique :( However, this is one epic pack. I'm itching for this game more and more.

I was about the 750iL? That’s why I wrote about it. :lol:
 
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I know what MTX are. Let's be honest. Forza games had MTX on every X-Box One game but FM7. With Tokens you could bought everything but the DLC content. That is why I asked why MTX? Ok, I did not ask why.
You can consider it for free but you still need to pay for it... so it is not free.

Day One Car Pack is not the Formula Drift Car Pack, which doesn't need an extra money.. just the pre-order status.
Didn't say it was free, more so that it was a perk of ordering the Ultimate edition. With how much is included in the Ultimate, you get such a large deal compared to buying everything separately that it's practically like getting a bunch of free goodies on the side.
 
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Didn't say it was free, more so that it was a perk of ordering the Ultimate edition. With how much is included in the Ultimate, you get such a large deal compared to buying everything separately that it's practically like getting a bunch of free goodies on the side.
I know, that is why I said you can consider it free. but since he quoted my response to another question and just to make things more clear I quoted his post to. The Ultimate Edition is the perfect deal period.
People are confused at times (they are also lazy and don't want to read all the forum). if the guy who made the question is reading this he might get confused even more. So we must be clear about the Day One Car Pack.
 
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I know what MTX are. Let's be honest. Forza games had MTX on every X-Box One game but FM7. With Tokens you could bought everything but the DLC content.

Fair enough, tbh I didn't bring the Tokens example up because they weren't a terribly successful example of microtransations.

You can consider it for free but you still need to pay for it... so it is not free.

This is kinda like saying that complementary toiletries in hotel rooms aren't free, because you have to pay for the room in order to get them? I guess it's a matter of perspective, I see it as a free perk of paying for something else, but you may say, "hah! so you paid for it", and I have to be honest, there is not much room for rebuttal here. :lol:
 
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Fair enough, tbh I didn't bring the Tokens example up because they weren't a terribly successful example of microtransations.
Buying ingame currency with real money is the very definition of microtransactions.


This is kinda like saying that complementary toiletries in hotel rooms aren't free, because you have to pay for the room in order to get them?
It is not like that.... It is more like asking the hostess if the champagne that they serve in first class is for free.
 
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It is not like that.... It is more like asking the hostess if the champagne that they serve in first class is for free.
I don't see how, since that has a fee associated to it. This doesn't.
 
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I don't see how, since that has a fee associated to it. This doesn't.
Have you ever been on a intercontinental flight? I was many times. If you stay in economy class you can see the first class department. The passenger from the first class are offered a glass of champagne (it is free). The economy passengers don't get the glass too. You still need a ticket for both class but you will get the champagne for free only in fist class. Can we get back to topic now?
 
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Have you ever been on a intercontinental flight? I was many times. If you stay in economy class you can see the first class department. The passenger from the first class are offered a glass of champagne (it is free). The economy passengers don't get the glass too. You still need a ticket for both class but you will get the champagne for free only in fist class. Can we get back to topic now?
The way I see it is if you're purchasing it as part of the Ultimate bundle, it is essentially free. Considering this is the version that is being discussed here, rather than the standalone, I don't really understand the issue with making that sentiment.

Considering this is a discussion about the car pack that this thread is about, it's fairly on topic.
 
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Have you ever been on a intercontinental flight? I was many times. If you stay in economy class you can see the first class department. The passenger from the first class are offered a glass of champagne (it is free). The economy passengers don't get the glass too. You still need a ticket for both class but you will get the champagne for free only in fist class. Can we get back to topic now?

In that case, however, it is a bit harder to gauge if the other perks of flying first class (the plushier seats, etc.) are worth the surcharge, since you can't ask the hostess to rip one seat off first class and install it in economy for you. :lol:

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Don't we have any pictures of the cars in the pack? At least five cars are new-to-Forza, would be interesting to see them rendered in-game!
 
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The way I see it is if you're purchasing it as part of the Ultimate bundle, it is essentially free. Considering this is the version that is being discussed here, rather than the standalone, I don't really understand the issue with making that sentiment.

Considering this is a discussion about the car pack that this thread is about, it's fairly on topic.
What you are saying is all true. It is just one problem. The Day One Pack will be available as a separate pack for players that didn't bough the Ultimate Edition after October 2nd for extra money. It is for "free" if you buy the UE but the pack is separate even from Car Pass. You can clearly see it on X box store or Microsoft one.
 
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What you are saying is all true. It is just one problem. The Day One Pack will be available as a separate pack for players that didn't bough the Ultimate Edition after October 2nd for extra money. It is for free if you buy the UE but the pack is separate even from Car Pass. You can clearly see it on X box store or Microsoft one.
You're right. No one was saying otherwise though, even on the post you replied to.
 
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You're right. No one was saying otherwise though, even on the post you replied to.
Ok... let's put it that way. You bought the pack at a discount price. You payed for it. You bought the whole package. It was not added later for free.... so it is not free.
 
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Ok... let's put it that way. You bought the pack at a discount price. You payed for it. You bought the whole package. It was not added later for free.... so it is not free.
Again, you're right. No one said it was though. All that was said is that with what you're paying for with the Ultimate edition, and the cost of it all, it's essentially like getting something for free, because you're getting such a deal. I think a language barrier might be confusing you.
 
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Again, you're right. No one said it was though. All that was said is that with what you're paying for with the Ultimate edition, and the cost of it all, it's essentially like getting something for free, because you're getting such a deal. I think a language barrier might be confusing you.
I just tried to make it less confusing for non UE owners... like I said 9 post before. :gtpflag: