Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6) under appreciated in GT5?

[albteman015]

It's called going to extremes with weight saving....they also had one coat of paint (you can see the carbon weave in some cars) to save weight along with plexiglass windows and very little sound deadening or insulation. It was pretty much as hardcore a Ferrari as you could or can buy.

Ugh. Okay. Imagine you are a 40 year old businessman who took over a fortune 500 company. You know nothing about cars but you have a taste for the finer things in life because you just have that much money. You are used to your Bentley or Mercedes which has all the comforts you desire and then you look at an F40 with no carpets. I know it is for the weight savings but lets be honest. How many rich old people are going to take that car to its limit. Now I am not saying that that accounts for all of the owners who have bought cars such as these. Some bought it because it was so crazy. But how many of those people are around?

 

[deadcat777]

Wow Guys you totally missed my point. Manual is better then a stupid paddle shift any day of the year. My point is that if cars were judged on how nice they are to drive instead of dumb things like how much money they cost then the zr1 would be one top of everyone's list. Us car guys are not part of the mainstream media that these cars are hyped on. How many zr1s have you seen in music videos lately? i Have not seen any. And CSLACR You have to understand i agree with you. But weather we like it or not manuals are becoming obsolete. Out of my entire group of friends, only me and one other friend know how to drive a manual. Everyone says they know how because they can use the paddle shifters in their stupid Lexus IS . Kids are growing up around fewer and fewer proper manual cars. And what their opinion on cars is matters more then ours because they are the ones who are going to become the businessmen and doctors that will eventually buy these things. Let me ask you? if you did not know how to drive stick would you buy a car with it? i don't think so. Forget one that costs 100k. as for the F40. It was a terrible car with more performance then anyone can handle. It looked cool, was expensive and had a price tag of a super car so rich people could buy it to show how well they are doing.



That is what i mean this notion that somehow other cars are better then it without people doing much research. I bet if you hopped in a zr1 and felt the fury of all of you organs being compressed to your spine you would probably change your mind but most people never find out.



Look I Personally would put this car way above most "supercar". I am trying to show what the main public thinks and most people do not believe it is.

BTW you guys need to find a dictionary and look up the word opinion ASAP. I'm sort of getting tired of you writing WRONG OR DEAD WRONG when replying to me. if you feel that I am fine i don't care but don't try to put me down because of it.

I personally drive a stick shift daily. In a race, I would still prefer a paddle shifter as compared to a stick shift as the new Dual clutch transmission is just awesome, the shifting is almost instantaneous.


I bet if you hopped in a zr1 and felt the fury of all of you organs being compressed to your spine you would probably change your mind but most people never find out.

Experienced it in GTR. Its insane.

 

[MitchZ06]

You'd be amazed as to how many people bought them because they wanted something chronically insane. And no, if I was a businessman like that it'd come down to whether or not I'm a car nut or not. Said businessman would either buy the F40 as an investment or just buy a bloody Enzo if they wanted a Ferrari (being in control of a Fortune 500 company would = tons of cash).

 

[albteman015]

You'd be amazed as to how many people bought them because they wanted something chronically insane. And no, if I was a businessman like that it'd come down to whether or not I'm a car nut or not. Said businessman would either buy the F40 as an investment or just buy a bloody Enzo if they wanted a Ferrari (being in control of a Fortune 500 company would = tons of cash).

Haha true and you actually reminded me of a point about then enzo. They original they were going to build 399 of them if i am not mistaken but its actually somewhere near 900 I think. They were getting requests to make more of the car so they finally did and the original customers were very angry with ferrari.

I personally drive a stick shift daily. In a race, I would still prefer a paddle shifter as compared to a stick shift as the new Dual clutch transmission is just awesome, the shifting is almost instantaneous.



Experienced it in GTR. Its insane.

I Prefer Manual solely because I feel it is much more fun. I love the mechanical feeling like moving the bolt in a high powered sniper rifle. Feels good man.

 

[MitchZ06]

1315 F40s were produced when they said they were only going to build 400, and with the Enzo they built exactly 400. 349 originally, people wanted more so they built another 50 and eventually one last one to bring that to 400.

 

[albteman015]

1315 F40s were produced when they said they were only going to build 400, and with the Enzo they built exactly 400. 349 originally, people wanted more so they built another 50 and eventually one last one to bring that to 400.

Wow i was wayyy off those numbers.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

In real life, i would rather pay $110k for a Audi R8 4.2 V8 rather than $110k for a ZR1 as my everyday car. I'm not saying ZR1 is a bad car, but most of american car is poorly make as compared to european or japanese car.

Actually you are saying it's a bad car, by lumping it in with this idea that America makes poor quality cars. In reality that isn't true. America has good quality cars and trucks and in nations like China who don't have their own major international car manufacture Chevy is at the top. German cars like VW tend to need frequent maintenance outside of the regular check ups, and seem to have over engineering issues. Now I'll agree Japan tends to be up there but America isn't too far. If you're going solely off certain aspects like interior which has nothing to do with car performance but purely aesthetic appeal then you might want to do research instead of having a biased anti-American car thought.

 

[oatmeal so good]

Actually you are saying it's a bad car, by lumping it in with this idea that America makes poor quality cars. In reality that isn't true. America has good quality cars and trucks and in nations like China who don't have their own major international car manufacture Chevy is at the top. German cars like VW tend to need frequent maintenance outside of the regular check ups, and seem to have over engineering issues. Now I'll agree Japan tends to be up there but America isn't too far. If you're going solely off certain aspects like interior which has nothing to do with car performance but purely aesthetic appeal then you might want to do research instead of having a biased anti-American car thought.

You seem to have missed the part where he said everyday car. I would compromise performance for a bit of comfort in a daily driver. IF it was an all out track car, then idgaf about interior.

 

[Doog]

The ZR1 is debatablely the best American production car of its time and Chevy's answer the International criticism towards American car.
The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 has proven to out match even the best of foreign cars such as the Lamborghini Murcielago SV LP670, and Porsche 911 GT1, so why is it so under used in GT5? I usually never see people use the ZR1 unless they need it for a cheap, but fast car for an event. Where are the true blue fans? If your favorite car in real life and in GT5 is the Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 (C6), leave a comment and tell me what you think. [/QUOTE

Have you ever been online? Almost everytime I join a room, I always see people in RM'd ZR1's drag racing against GT-R's, Vipers, and the rest of those high horsepower, easy to obtain cars.

 

[DEATHSARTHE]

High horse? Followed by a pretentious assumption of my tastes?
I'm the "type of person" that doesn't say I "LOVE" off-white and "HATE" white. That's called pretentious.

how the hell is this any different from you telling me I shouldn't like the Corvette because I don't like the Viper?? You're just trolling, and you're terrible at that too. There are differences between the two cars, just let it go. They're similar, but in so many ways soooo different just like White and Off White. I ****ing hate off white, does that mean I should hate all shades of white?? LOL. No. No it does not. I hate the way the Viper looks, does this mean I should hate all similar looking cars?? No, no it does not. This is my point idiot. I could give a **** about what you like lol just pointing out how stupid you sound when you persist on aruging about something so dumb.

 

[VQuick]

This statement is based on what? On the fake Nordschleife lap times?

Lap times don`t prove anything, aslong as all cars which should be compared don`t drive under the same conditions.

At Fiorano the 599GTO was almost a second faster then the Enzo. At TGTT it was 0.7s slower.

At the Nordschleife the ZR1 did a 7:19, but they used slick tires. The only known LP670-4 time at the Ring is a 7:42 which is slower then a LP640 or Gallardo LP570, which means that the driver was bad or the track was in bad conditions because no way the LP670-4 is slower then these two cars.
Oh and the only know lap time of the C6 ZR1 with stock tires is a 7:26.
And you can be sure that all those lap times from big manufacturers are faked. Comparisions like the Evo test with the Enzo, Zonda F and MC12 under same conditions are better.

edit: Im a european but I love amercian cars especially corvettes, eventhough it hurts to see them beating Ferrari at LeMans each year A stock ZR1 is one of my favorite cars in this game.

Those 'slick tires' were Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, the same tire used by the Viper ACR as well as most of the high-end 911s. The Pilot Sport Cup is a street-legal r-compound tire. The ZR1 actually used a run-flat variant, which compromises performance due to the stiffer sidewall.

The Lamborghinis you mentioned use the Pirelli P-Zero Corsa, along with some Ferraris like the 430 Scuderia and even the new BOSS Mustang Laguna Seca. The Corsa is also an r-compound tire.

 

[hsdioce]

Personally I'm not a fan of American cars, but the Corvette ZR1 is quite an amazing car, and is also good fun with sports medium tires

 

[oatmeal so good]

Those 'slick tires' were Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, the same tire used by the Viper ACR as well as most of the high-end 911s. The Pilot Sport Cup is a street-legal r-compound tire. The ZR1 actually used a run-flat variant, which compromises performance due to the stiffer sidewall.

The Lamborghinis you mentioned use the Pirelli P-Zero Corsa, along with some Ferraris like the 430 Scuderia and even the new BOSS Mustang Laguna Seca. The Corsa is also an r-compound tire.

Yes the Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure tires are a factory option. Perfectly street legal and bring out the full potentials of these balanced beasts

 

[VQuick]

Yes the Pilot Sport Cup Zero Pressure tires are a factory option. Perfectly street legal and bring out the full potentials of these balanced beasts

GM is still leaving some performance on the table by going run-flat, but that makes the Corvettes even more impressive. In comparison, the non run-flat shod Viper ACR needs more power and less drag from its aero setup to fight back.

 

[TT3AZ]

I like the zr1 and z06 vette very much for street drag of course. I like it even more then the overly used viper acr.

 

[CSLACR]

GM is still leaving some performance on the table by going run-flat, but that makes the Corvettes even more impressive. In comparison, the non run-flat shod Viper ACR needs more power and less drag from its aero setup to fight back.

???
the ACR is rated for 41 less horsepower, and the functional aero parts increase drag, on the already less aerodynamic car.

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

Who cares. The ZR1 is used as a cheap 'grind' car in GT5.

 

[MitchZ06]

Funny that, my 'cheap grind car' was the FGT Test Car...

 

[akyp]

I love Corvettes. I believe I have every one of them in my garage, except the stock Z06 because I RM'd mine. The other day I had great fun drifting my stock ZR1 around Trial Mountain. It's such a shame PD got the engine note all wrong.

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

Funny that, my 'cheap grind car' was the FGT Test Car...

Even though it cost 3,600,000 credits compared to the vettes 130,000 credits. lmao Even if you won it, everyone buys the ZR1 to grind money

 

[MitchZ06]

It's not even worth that much for what it is anyway....the Ford GT is really just a noobs car in GT5 like the X1.

 

[Antonisbob]

It's an awesome car. I love it.... sure many other people here do too. Want to see something really under appreciated? Just look at the C4 Corvettes. Maybe not the best but at heart still a 'Vette.

 

[MitchZ06]

In GT4 I loved using the C4 ZR-1, man that and the Grand Sport were alot of fun in that game.

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

It's not even worth that much for what it is anyway....the Ford GT is really just a noobs car in GT5 like the X1.

Not worth that much? Its worth every penny. What car do you know that can compete and beat a 905 hp ZR1 RM that weighs 1100kg, and a 956 hp Zonda R that weighs 1070kg with only 826hp and weighs 1165 kg? The Ford GT LM Spec II can beat race cars with 100 more hp and 100 less kg.

 

[MitchZ06]

This guys is what is known in Australia as a 'barramundi', the fanboy fell for it hook, line and sinker

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

This guys is what is known in Australia as a 'barramundi', the fanboy fell for it hook, line and sinker

If it took you this long to realize that well you, my friend, need to read thoroughly. Of course Im a fanboy of this godly relic. I cant race right without racing in my favorite car. It just bores me quick. I used the Elise RM in an endurance race today and got bored within lap 10 even though I won.

 

[MitchZ06]

You've missed what I'm saying and it's been obvious you're a GT fanboy since a few pages back (along with the big picture in your profile...).

I love the McLaren F1 but it doesn't bore me to drive other cars.....

 

[C-ZETA]

In GT4 I loved using the C4 ZR-1, man that and the Grand Sport were alot of fun in that game.

I have a fully nodded ZR1 C4 and I think it's pretty slick. Very slippery online with its setup...and offline as well, but it is very fast away from any corner...it gets up to 760hp+.

 

[alonsof1fan91]

Those 'slick tires' were Michelin Pilot Sport Cups, the same tire used by the Viper ACR as well as most of the high-end 911s. The Pilot Sport Cup is a street-legal r-compound tire. The ZR1 actually used a run-flat variant, which compromises performance due to the stiffer sidewall.

The Lamborghinis you mentioned use the Pirelli P-Zero Corsa, along with some Ferraris like the 430 Scuderia and even the new BOSS Mustang Laguna Seca. The Corsa is also an r-compound tire.

Oh, then its my fault. But those Michelins are very very good. The Mclaren MP4-12C has a Pirelli compound, IIRC a optional P-Zero (don`t know exactly which type). I know 2 guys who have ordered a MP4-12C and they told me that the first thing they are going to is changing the rubber to Michelins.

This is the reason why I don`t like street car comparisions because the tire factor is very big. As long as all cars don`t compete under same rules (same tires, same driver, same crew which setup the car) it makes no sense for me to compare lap times.

Not worth that much? Its worth every penny. What car do you know that can compete and beat a 905 hp ZR1 RM that weighs 1100kg, and a 956 hp Zonda R that weighs 1070kg with only 826hp and weighs 1165 kg? The Ford GT LM Spec II can beat race cars with 100 more hp and 100 less kg.

You know that this is just a game and that the Ford GT LM Spec II car is just pure fantasy?

 

[ADR_XCLUTCH]

Oh, then its my fault. But those Michelins are very very good. The Mclaren MP4-12C has a Pirelli compound, IIRC a optional P-Zero (don`t know exactly which type). I know 2 guys who have ordered a MP4-12C and they told me that the first thing they are going to is changing the rubber to Michelins.

This is the reason why I don`t like street car comparisions because the tire factor is very big. As long as all cars don`t compete under same rules (same tires, same driver, same crew which setup the car) it makes no sense for me to compare lap times.



You know that this is just a game and that the Ford GT LM Spec II car is just pure fantasy?

Umm your point? This isnt NFS. This game is a sim. Regardless, any car that can compete with others even when its down 100 hp and up 100kg is pretty damn beast right. Plus, all the RMs are based off their real world counterpart technically. ZR1 RM= C6R. TVR RM= T400R. The same rule should apply to the GT LM.