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Joey DI can actually see the plant from my house funny enough.
I just looked at your location, my moms Malibu was made there.
Joey DI can actually see the plant from my house funny enough.
Quick question: Given the option of an Ampera and let's say an A4 3.0 TDI, retailing for approximately 30-34k£ is on the very same price league as the Ampera ( from what I've been told ). It's AWD, much bigger, quite economical, more practical, much more powerful and let's face it: It's an Audi, not an Opel or Vauxhall. It'll be hard to sell the Ampera in a market that accepts diesels as Europe does, I can't see it succeeding.
And of course, no car that uses an engine can beat an EV on NVH, and there's a lot to be said for that in modern traffic.
Its creepy quiet, but kinda cool at the same time. It will make my NPR listening that much better.
Sounds to me like Bob Lutz is seeing how ridiculous the mainstream media is acting, and how ridiculous this Republican race for President has become.Bob Lutz at ForbesThe recent media coverage of so-called “Chevrolet Volt fires,” especially by the conservative talk shows and Fox News, has attracted my attention and ire.
Let’s set out the facts (and feel free to check them yourself):
1) Not one Chevrolet Volt has ever caught fire in normal use or in accidents. Not a single one.
2) The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, even after the highly artificial crash test (placing the car on its back, even though it did not roll over in the test) nevertheless awarded the Volt NHTSA’s highest crash-safety rating: 5 stars. Volt is supremely safe.
3) The crashed Volt, its battery shorted by coolant from the period unjustifiably spent “feet up,” caught fire three weeks after said test. (I submit that this would provide adequate time for surviving passengers to exit the vehicle.)
4) On average, 278,000 cars with gasoline engines caught fire in the U.S. each year between 2003 and 2007, according to the National Fire Protection Association.
5) No factory-produced electric vehicle has ever caught fire, to the best of my knowledge.
6) The Volt, the most technologically advanced car on the planet, was conceived by me and my team well before any federal bailout of GM.
These are the bedrock facts.
Now, how did the U.S. right-wing media choose to report this admittedly headline-tempting news?
A nationally syndicated editorial three-panel cartoon stated (I believe I remember the sequence): “Thomas Edison discovered electricity;” then, “Alexander Graham Bell discovered the telephone;” and, in the third panel, “But it took the US Government to discover fire!” (accompanied by a drawing of a burning Chevy Volt).
Meanwhile, my fellow cigar-aficionado and erstwhile friend Rush Limbaugh launched the usual outraged, breathless tirades, denouncing the Volt as a typical failed President Obama initiative, on a par, grosso modo, with the dreaded Obama Care. The screen regularly depicted an exploding Chevrolet Volt.
But the Oscar for totally irresponsible journalism has to go to The O’Reilly Factor on Fox News, with, as its key guest, Lou Dobbs. Amid much jocular yukking, the Volt was depicted as a typical federal failure. In attempting to explain why Chevy has sold fewer than 8,000 Volts, Dobbs states, flatly, “It doesn’t work.” He elaborates, “It doesn’t go fast and go far on electricity. What happens is it catches fire,” adding that Chevy has recalled some 8,000 Volts. Bill O’Reilly, nodding approvingly, helpfully interjects: “So they’ve recalled cars that haven’t been sold.” Boiled down to the subtext, Dobbs’ message was this: “All Volts catch fire, and therefore all Volts have been recalled.” That simply isn’t the case.
Much air time was spent on the $50 billion-plus bailout, which, the audience was left to assume, “funded” the Volt, doubtlessly at the whim of Obama’s known army of evil enviro-Nazis, intent on forcing vehicle electrification on a good-ole’-boy, V8-lovin’ populace.
To top it off, these two media pros lamented the fact that the same government that had forced GM to produce the Volt was now extending $7,500 tax credits towards its purchase, thus squandering even more of “our taxpayer” dollars on this failed Socialist-collectivist flop. Truth? The $7,500 tax credit was enacted under the Bush administration!
But who the hell cares about facts when you’re in O’Reilly’s self-described “No Spin Zone?” (The fine print might as well read, “We said ‘no spin,’ not ‘no deliberate misstatement of facts.’ ”What on Earth is wrong with the conservative media movement that it feels it’s OK to spread false information, OK to damage the reputation of perhaps the finest piece of mechanical technology our country has produced since the space shuttle, OK to hurt an iconic American company that is roaring back to global pre-eminence, OK to hurt American employment in Hamtramck, Mich., as long as it damages the Obama administration’s reputation?
While as a conservative Republican I may well share the goal, I deplore the means employed to attain it. The conservative cause damages itself, destroys its credibility through the expedient spreading of untruths. The public will figure it out.
The right-wing “talking heads”, O’Reilly and Limbaugh at the forefront, have managed to make me embarrassed to describe myself as a conservative.
Come on, you guys. Shape up! There’s plenty of legitimate fodder out there. Let’s leave the “invention of facts” to the left-wing climate-change alarmists.
Does it not have a stereo?The only thing you really notice is how quiet it is. I mean, you actually have to talk to your friends.
Well, they were struggling a bit to keep the price down. Using a cheap engine that's already been in production for a while would certainly save a chunk.I think they did it because it was there.
Does it not have a stereo?
I absolutely love it. Questionable plastics and all. As a commuter car to drive in boring traffic in, there's little that can rival a Prius for ease of use.
So... Anyone know why that might be?
They run them in limited numbers. They are being rolled out around the world. The cars are to be sent to dealers to show that GM is 'Going Green' in a constructive way.
Do you or anyone else think that GM is going 'Green' or just trying to portray it? If they were serious, GM plants would be transformed with alternate energy and environmental projects. But it seems to be business as usual. The Volt will be rolled out as a marketing tool that you have to order and wait months to acquire.
GM may be thinking of selling the Amperas here in the states maybe under Buick. They sell both the Volt and Amperas in Europe and the Amperas sells much better then the Volt.
So, me and Minty were puttering around Baltimore today stuck in traffic. And we saw a car carrier filled with what we thought were Chevrolet Volts. But before I could even make a mean joke about them, I noticed that in fact there were only two Volts, and all of the rest of them were Opel Amperas (with Opel badging and everything).
So... Anyone know why that might be?
GM is watching the plug-in competition, the Ford C-Max Energi and Toyota Prius Plug-In, as it works on future product. "We've got one bullet in the chamber with the Volt," he said. "We're getting some feedback. We've already built a body of research. There are a lot of different camps. From a design perspective, people want an exciting vehicle. Now, what does exciting mean? A lot of zoom-y lines? Deep cut forms? A lot of muscular shapes? We are looking at all the different kinds of design DNA for how we proceed with this technology. Nothing is left off the table. No idea is a bad idea."