Clean Lo PP Shuffle Club By the VCRC & MCRC club host, watermelonpunch (PSN: wat3rm370n) Lobby Room Title Always: Clean Lo pp Shuffle Hosted by wat3rm370n (if you see this room inherited hosted by someone else, I can't vouche for the quality, but may be continued by other respectable clean racers) IMPROMPTU RACING - NO SET SCHEDULE Typically daytime US EDT (afternoon / evening Euro time), right now Some weekends, mornings, evenings US EST Due to my inability to schedule too much in advance, I've been running casual clean shuffle lobbies. All clean fun drivers welcome. Parameters: 300pp-380pp Shuffle Base (depending on track & what's working best) Ratio set @ 3 or 2 (depending on what works best) All aids off except ABS & Driving Line (drivers' choice) Grip Real Tire wear On Damage Light Penalty Weak Slipstream Weak Boost Off Visible Damage Off Mics disabled Race Quality Standard NOT Fixed Host Race attendance varies. But generally when I'm racing at some point during the 1pm-5pm EDT (6pm-10pm BST) time range, most races have 10-15 cars, and the room is often hitting full capacity. Note: I allow the full 16 to the room, as mics are disabled & visible damage is set to off. There hasn't been much problem except the usually occasional lag start or black screen now & again, but that seems to happen sometimes even when there's very few in the room. Very little generalized lag has been reported. Only a few occurrences of tire sounds muted. And no invisible car problems have been happening. For this reason, I do allow idlers ("sleepers" taking a break) unless the room is at full capacity with people trying to get in, as sometimes I skip a race now & again too to attend to real life, so that's okay. Average race length +/- 10 minutes. (may be shorter or longer, depending on popular desires in the room) Mixed track choices, alternating between tracks I choose (to ensure a variety), track vote (when the room is pretty full) occasional Custom tracks occasional DLC tracks occasional oval tracks occasional rally (snow/dirt) tracks (Note: Custom tracks are generally the same used regularly, chosen from a variety of VCRC member custom tracks, by various designers, specifically for low powered cars, and tested to be fun to race upon.) Occasional 1-make spec races with a 420pp or less car from the Recommended Garage. Occasional full damage longer races, when current participants are interested. Occasionally the PP will be set at 400pp or 420pp for ovals or special races, and when dirt/snow tracks are used, they are automatically set to a shuffle base of about 420pp and 4wd. RULES: This is casual racing, and I'm not a tyrant dictator, and I don't spend a lot of time lecturing anyone. But most people participating are generally expected to be aware of appropriate track etiquette based on the GTP OLR Rules. I encourage people to report dirty driving, and I have a core group of pals who are very good about helping police the room. I also don't just listen to one racer's sour grapes. I generally give people a chance to defend themselves & see what they say when they're accused of doing something rude or sloppy, to gauge their attitude. Inexperienced or over-driving racers who get sloppy are warned and generally given a chance to reign it in, but any repeated recklessness is not tolerated, and anyone creating a repeated sloppy nuisance during races is kicked. If an accident or contact occurs, the offender is expected to either not pass or give the spot back. Quitting races should be done in a respectful courteous way. IE: pulling the car off track and parking or exiting the race away from traffic. Dirty drivers are kicked a.s.a.p. Zero tolerance for B.S. If I see a deliberate dirty maneuver, or if 2-3 people report a deliberate dirty maneuver, that player is kicked directly. (May take only one report if it's from someone I know & trust.) Prohibited: punting, inappropriate blocking, wild weaving, brake-checking, driving backwards, slamming, ramming, riding another car through a turn, shoving another car off track, dive bombing into corners, rear clipping, pit maneuvers, cramming to pass, excessive inappropriate beeping, parking in the track, barging back onto the track into traffic after going off, excessive txt chat during races, verbal assaults or rude insults (directed toward anyone) in the txt chat, repeated rude demands for room setting changes, bad attitude Debbie Downer type complaining or hysteria, excessively blaming other racers or the cars for mistakes, accidents or poor performance, and anything basically that is problematically disruptive to the enjoyment of fellow racers. I have very specific reasons for the parameters I choose, based on testing & experience, and my own preferences for racing. I've had good results with this so far. I like the vintage, kei cars, and low powered cars in low pp shuffle base. I've found it to be fun, and well received among my favourite racing pals, among my GTP friends and others. This is LOW PP shuffling, and I don't yield to anyone whining for me to raise the PP or make the ratio zero. The chosen PP will be suitable to the track. The ratio is to ensure close fun racing for a variety of experience & skill levels, and to ensure a good interesting mix of cars, and fun racing all over the grid. It should be accepted as a given that in a full grid, starting from the back with a bum car, it may not always be possible to win a race no matter how fast & good the racer happens to be, but in a good racing environment, that shouldn't prevent fun from being had by all. I also find that it's easier to police the room at lower PPs, and it tends to NOT attract inconsiderate & immature racers, which are, unfortunately, plentiful in the open public lobby. Poor sports & grouchy drivers may not like this venue, and are free not to join in on this! Sometimes in shuffle you're going to get the Odyssey minivan, the really low powered lightweight Minica Dangan, the heavy Altezza that won't seem to brake, or the Airtek or Yaris that refuse to turn at corners. Or the Renault 5 Turbo which turns even when not in corners, because it has 4 independently turning wheels. If you don't have a sense of humour and like that kind of challenge, shuffling is probably not for you! If you prefer shuffle with lots of Lancers & other 4wds, or prefer 480-500pp settings, this is NOT the shuffle club for you! There's plenty of venues for those preferences out there, and you're free to go find them and enjoy yourself! If you enjoy the old vintage cars like the 60s Skylines, the 70s & 80s Japanese, the 60s Alfas, kei cars, and racing "commuter type" vehicles, you will really enjoy these shuffle races! I encourage people to post here to express interest, or chat about shuffle racing, but anyone is welcome to find my pub lobby whenever it suits them - you need not "formally" sign up as a member. Look forward to seeing you on track! ) List of Some Regular (& Irregular ) Racers: GTP name / PSN name ChloeSMV / ChloeSMV coolson / GTP_BB6 aceboy127 / aceboy127 Coreyb / CoreyB_26 n/a / daddy-o845 RDAardvark / RDAardvark GranTurismo916 / atongo619 sausages / GTP_sausages Dundermuffin666 / Optimoose20 n/a / D-NOMINATOR n/a / ryzno n/a / FaoMayol n/a / S0M3-1_unknown VBR / VirtualBornRacer ghskilla / ghskilla culturalsnow / culturalsnow ? / pietplv doodlemonoply / doodlemonoply anotherdike / anotherdike paulmac2k9 / GTP_PaulMac There are others, if you want to be added to this list, let me know.