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Thay may be different type of game, but witch is better.
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+1.Well it's still not much better - KZ2 definitely has superior graphics and CoD 4 definitely has superior gameplay.![]()
in COD4.. hmm you see a lamp on table , can you shoot and destroy it .. NO...
And then there's the graphics- the PS3 version of COD4 is probably the least desired of the three and it shows. It's not a bad looking game but after being exposed to KZ2, you begin to notice the warts in COD4.
KZ2. I find it more realistic than COD4 like the lagg you have when you move your weapon.
This is a bit of a silly poll isn't it? KZ2 took four years to make (and an almost bottomless pit of money), COD4 only took 2 years (on a far smaller budget). I'm sure if IW spent that much time (and money) making a game, then we wouldn't even be having this conversation (becasue the answer would be as obvious then as as it is now).
Realistic? You can't go prone on KZ2, any shooter worth its salt lets you go prone! And, there IS lag when you move your gun in COD4. Try swinging an RPD or M60 around then try an Uzi or a scorpion, do you see?
One thing I found totally unrealistic with KZ2 is that they can fly to far off distant planets, but they still only use 20th century weaponry? WTF?
If you REALLY want to know if KZ2 is better than COD4, wait 2 years, and see if there are still millions of people playing it. COD4 has seen off all and sundry, as will MW2 will do the same when it gets here. 👍
I will say that IW will need to up the anti in the graphics department. Gameplay-wise though, IW have it nailed. 👍
Besides that, the statistics for COD4 say it all.
#1 FPS of all time.
#1 game of 2007 (most units sold)
#2 game of all time in the USA
Over 11 million units sold, and growing.
Reventón;3348216#1 FPS? I find that hard to believe when games like Counter Strike are still being played nine years later.
Have you any clue in how big CS was/is ? Its maybe #1 right now, but no way they beat CS overall..
So because InfinityWard says that about their own game, that means its true? ModernWarfare is a great game, I'll give it that, but there's no way it's the #1 FPS of all time. Half-Life 2 spewed that when it came out as did Halo. That hardly meant it was true because there's no actual guidelines as to what dictates what is the #1 FPS.Well, that's what it says on their website, unless IW are telling fibs now...
Reventón;3349096So because InfinityWard says that about their own game, that means its true? ModernWarfare is a great game, I'll give it that, but there's no way it's the #1 FPS of all time. Half-Life 2 spewed that when it came out as did Halo. That hardly meant it was true because there's no actual guidelines as to what dictates what is the #1 FPS.
Who decided that sales makes a game the best in it's genre, the #1 will change from person to person and will always be an opinated matter. Not to mention the various platforms that COD spans which is bound to increase sales figures. CS is PC only, Halo is Xbox only, KZ2 is PS3 only, to compare any or all based on purely sales figures is a bit of a lost cause. If it's going to be a sales comparison, then at least PS3 sales should be compared for both COD4 and KZ2, but this still wouldn't be a fair comparison as people who haven't bought a certain game can't say that the one they've bought is better.
They should be compared on gameplay, graphics, story, immersion and all the other things that makes you play a game, not buy it. Brand power alone probably sells more games then anything else (COD: WaW was guaranteed sales success due to COD4, NFS games still sell plenty despite poor quality up until most recently) but it's only once you have actually bought the game that you can really gauge it's worth and quality.
And, also, who cares? I didn't buy CoD because i thought it was "#1".
As stated in those articles (and many others), these numbers do not include the copies sold through STEAM. And sales on STEAM surpasses the retail sales.Counterstirke (all incarnations): 10.5 million copies sold. (source). Individually the best selling version of Counterstrike (Counterstrike), only sold 4.2 million copies.
Half Life 2 (all incarnations): 7.9 million copies sold (source). Individually the best selling Half-Life 2 (Half-Life 2), game only sold 6.5 million copies.
Sales DO make the game the #1 FPS game of all time. In every other consumer market, sales are used to determine how good something actually is, why is it any different with video games? If the game was rubbish, no one would buy it, or have gamers got that bad a judgement? If they have, then the same could apply to KZ2.
I've had a long running battle with DN regarding the PS3 on similar grounds, and his defence (which is correct), is that the PS3 is doing well because of its sales. Whether I think the PS3 is good or not, is of little consequence, and as I will point out to you to the same applies. Sales mean everything, particularaly in an industry where statistics are poured over for every concieveable thing, whether it be your K/D ratio, your lap times, games sales or brand power.
Apples and oranges. Sales tell you you which has sold more... not which is better.
That's complete & utter rubbish. By that logic, if we all went out & bought Duke Nukem, that would suddenly make it the #1 FPS of all time despite weak gameplay & no innovative features?Sales DO make the game the #1 FPS game of all time. In every other consumer market, sales are used to determine how good something actually is, why is it any different with video games? If the game was rubbish, no one would buy it, or have gamers got that bad a judgement? If they have, then the same could apply to KZ2.
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Apples and oranges. Sales tell you you which has sold more... not which is better.
Digital-NitrateSo no, just because a game sells better than another, in no way infers it's better... it just means it sold more copies.
Reventón;3349577That's complete & utter rubbish. By that logic, if we all went out & bought Duke Nukem, that would suddenly make it the #1 FPS of all time despite weak gameplay & no innovative features?
MyselfSales DO make the game the #1 FPS game of all time.
Digital-NitrateAs others have pointed out, comparingtotal sales figures fora game that only recently was released and to a limited market, versus a game that was released over a year ago to multiple platforms isn't going to tell you anything as far as which game is better...
I take it your saying KZ2 has the graphics then, and COD4 has the gameplay yes? I think you answered your own question. For me gameplay wins every time! 👍
True, but sales can also say which has sold more AND which is better. Or are you saying that every game that has good sales is inferior to another game?
Digital-NitrateSee Magburner, this is why I have had issues with some of the posts you have made... how you managed to take what I said and turned that around to say that you take that I am saying COD4 has better gameplay is beyond me, and lacks both logic and common sense.![]()
Digital-Nitrate
Digital-NitrateNo, and are you saying every game that has good sales is superior to another game?
Digital-NitrateJust because something sells well in no way determines whether or not it's better than something that doesn't sell as well... it truly is as simple as that, and I feel badly for anyone mislead into buying something simply because many people have bought it...
Digital-Nitrate... and no I'm not saying COD4 is rubbish, in fact I feel quite the opposite, but that has nothing to do with the fallacy of claiming one game is better than another, or is the best FPS game based on sales. It's an absurd assumption to make.