Combating forza 4

[THEPUNISHER]

its just games
no war please
kids will start ww3 for it
i hate it

 

[PAWEL17]

It would make (only just a little bit) sense if the games were on the same console no?

Then i would get both games, you would think so, but all consoles need there exclusives.

 

[GTShadowKing]

Then i would get both games, you would think so, but all consoles need there exclusives.

I would get both too. But if Forza is not on PS3...why should I care?! If I already bought a PS3!
However PD should care in order to realise the improvements made on the genre so they could match or ever surpass those things.
GT VS Shift made more sense to me...

 

[Chikane_GTR]

personally i wish i had my 360 again just to buy F4

since i know how good of a series it is. own all 3

 

[SonicWagon]

What do forza players use for wheels?
Do they make FFB wheels besides the fanatecGT3RS for xbox? I have been considering getting an Xbox for Forza but my logitech wont work.

 

[Devedander]

And i draw out my "course editor" card(never played forza3, so tell me if im wrong), followed by my "photomode" card, and top it off, with my "seasonal events" card. Is that z royal flush or what? Haha.

Im not trying to flame, im trying to stay on topic, comabting forza 4.

To be fair, the course editor was a disspointment and I think would be better named the "blind massive elevation change sharp turn maker". I would say 9 out of 10 courses that thing creates have at least one frustratingly bad section and none have felt anything like a track that would ever get famous for it's good design.

The photo travel is awseome but limited to premiums only, photomode Forza copied from GT anyway and seasonal events are just basically more crappy Aspec races at this point that you have to wate for and which dissapear on you after a while... compared to enough races to last multiple seasons without getting boring that doens't sound so hot.

 

[Kid Krinkle]

I hope PD steps up to the plate. My plan (and I hope to stick to it) is

Currently own:

• 1 PS3 Phat
• 1 PS3 Slim
• 1 copy of GT5
• Fanatec GT2 CSP

Now if there is a massive update I'd prefer to buy:

• 1 more PS3 Slim
• 2 more copies of GT5
• Triple screen setup

Instead of buying another 360 (first one was banned and RROD) and Forza 4. But at least the GT2 will work with both consoles :thumbsup:

 

[Dannbodge]

I love GT5 because I just love the series.
However the achievement whoring of the xbox and my mates will probably make me play Forza more.

 

[MARcFuLLa]

MS and Turn10 have tried this with Forza 3 around the GT5 release date, deploying a DLC with Top Gear contents and new cars, but i don't know if it was sucessfull or not...

A GT5 huge DLC over the release date of Forza 4 is totally plausible, lets see (hope) if that happens! 👍

 

[Pianoman]

You're basically saying your glad GT5's offline section is disjointed

I never said any word about offline portion of GT5.

 

[kimi123]

Forza 4 seems to be Forza 3 with kinect. Good for those who like it but I think Forza games is a waste of time.

However they need to keep an eye on them and do better than them if they think Forza is doing something right. They obviously want to keep GT fans happy. So I hope they are already working on something on PS3. DLC for GT5 or GT6P in development something like that.

 

[JoeH187]

Forza always looks nice, but thats about it. GT always had more long term motivation.
Besides buying an Xbox is about the last thing i would do

Me too, microsoft is last place my bucks would be going.

 

[Willfred_1]

if u read in the interview kaz wanted 2 more years to produce the game so currently he making more premiums and new tracks if he does do the largest update to end all large updates. i reckon he might improve the tuning giving us the ability to adjust turbo boost and fuel pressure as forza doesn't have this if he doesn't do it he needs to

 

[Devedander]

if u read in the interview kaz wanted 2 more years to produce the game so currently he making more premiums and new tracks if he does do the largest update to end all large updates. i reckon he might improve the tuning giving us the ability to adjust turbo boost and fuel pressure as forza doesn't have this if he doesn't do it he needs to

Kaz would ALWAYS want two more years... that's the problem with his style and what hurt GT5 so much... he's apparently not the kind of guy who can say "this is how much time we have, lets' do what fits in that much time".

 

[J-KiLLA24]

FM3 kept me addicted and playing daily for more then 1,5 years.
GT5 couldnt keep me addicted for more then two weeks.

I wonder why....

 

[C_Raccoon23]

I have Forza 3, and it was exactly as I expected and I love it. Hopefully, T10 will improve on it in FM4 and make it an even better game.

However, I really hope Kaz has something up his sleeve for GT5 and steps up before Forza 4 is released, because I'm losing my desire to play it more and more in it's current condition.

 

[zr1chris]

What do forza players use for wheels?
Do they make FFB wheels besides the fanatecGT3RS for xbox? I have been considering getting an Xbox for Forza but my logitech wont work.

Microsoft had a wheel but i think it has since been discontinued. I bought one when Forza 2 came out. At the time i thought it was the coolest thing since it was my first force feedback wheel but i must say that the DFGT is much better. The MS wheel is still good for the price however. You can probably pick one up cheap on ebay. Maybe like $50.

 

[zr1chris]

I have Forza 3, and it was exactly as I expected and I love it. Hopefully, T10 will improve on it in FM4 and make it an even better game.

However, I really hope Kaz has something up his sleeve for GT5 and steps up before Forza 4 is released, because I'm losing my desire to play it more and more in it's current condition.

The only improvement Forza 3 made over 2 was the carlist IMO. Hopefully they can give a little more in Forza 4

 

[zr1chris]

MS and Turn10 have tried this with Forza 3 around the GT5 release date, deploying a DLC with Top Gear contents and new cars, but i don't know if it was sucessfull or not...

A GT5 huge DLC over the release date of Forza 4 is totally plausible, lets see (hope) if that happens! 👍

They did it in a stupid way so i didnt buy it. They made a total of 13 new cars. 10 of which you could get in a dlc and the other 3 you actually had to buy the ultimate edition of the game. Yup buy the game you already have again. No thanks.

 

[Meegulls]

So many great things I can say about Forza 3 that beat GT5 but I wont get into that. As someone who has played both games to the point of completing both I can honestly say the GT series needs to look at Forza and take some of their features. It's funny because I didnt see too many flaws in GT5 until I seriously started playing Forza then I was like, whoa. Im not saying one game is better than that other but if GT5 was more like Forza in terms of gameplay and settings/tuning... REALISM, it would be an amazing game.

 

[cuco33]

As a multiplatform owner who loves both franchises in question, I'm all for owning both. Best of both worlds really. GT5 to me was a bit of a disappointment but still a great game even with the faults. It's not what I expected it should have been. GT5 compared to GT4 (I don't do prologues) was a big leap forward in features and even though the content was 'more' it felt like less of a game. I love the Forza series and it gets better with each version but it too isn't perfect. The seasonals and online for GT5 helps a ton but I hope T10 and PD are looking at each others' works and taking away the best bits of each. Competition is best for us consumers.

What I hope is for MS to wake up and open up 3rd party wheel support. Adapt the HID system over the XID and open up licensing. The core racing sim fans want this more than anything and it would be huge in my book. Love the fact that the PS3 is open to 3rd party wheels, even if not fully supported most will still work.

 

[tinram]

What I hope is for MS to wake up and open up 3rd party wheel support.

This ... i would buy an XBOX/Forza if M$ actually thought about their customers for a change.

 

[JoeMaPampang]

Wait a minute here.

When you guys say GT5 Spec II are you meaning that if PD put out a seperate game sort of like prologue called GT 5 Spec II and put in 24 tracks that should already be in GT5 and tossed in a few premium models that should already be in GT5, additional ASpec events that should already be in GT5, fast forward and rewind in replays that should already be in GT5 you would be pleased and buy that game? Doesn't that sound crazy to you?

I'm not a hater, or a fanboy, I have both systems, and both games (FM3, and GT5) I like them both, but the only way GT5 is going to combat anything is to release an update, not no damn DLC, but an update, that swaps over some of these standard cars into premiums and changes the garbage ASpec.

The simple fact that GT5 (a new game that came out in November of 2010) is being compared to FM3 (a game that came out in October of 2009) is silly, there shouldn't be any comparing, it should be pure and utter domination on GT5's part, and it's a total shame that it isn't.

Just from that leaked footage video showing a few features and some minor content of the new Forza game if Turn 10 just does a halfway decent job of putting this game together it's going to crush GT5 and any other game out guys, denying that is simply crazy talk, fanboy or not.

For people who don't have an XBOX I get it, but for people with both consoles, you'd be a fool to not go to Forza 4 if it's done HALF as well as GT5.

I know this is a matter of opinion...

lolz:tup:
I think Pd will release two new premium cars..

I am fortunate enough to have both consoles. As i am a long time FM player; i will be moving to FM4 the second of its arrival on my doorstep.

FM3 kept me addicted and playing daily for more then 1,5 years.
GT5 couldnt keep me addicted for more then two weeks.

Ive said it before and ill say it again; GT5 does not want to be played. Yes ingame most is fine, but the menu structure and the whole UI (User Interface) is unpraktical, was slow, and leaves room for guessing where you need to go.

GT5 spec II would need:
- No screentears at all,
- All standards made premium
- Replay functionalities.
- Reverse being a selectable gear. (as it is in RL!!(and they call themselves the REAL sim))
- Smoother graphics (no pixeltations with smoke)
- Better looking environments
- No B spec; instead triple the amount of Aspec races.
- A function that i can invite my friends to my online lobby.
- In game tuning.
- Adjustable Tire width and Steering angle, engine swapping, Painting, Trading

I could go on and on and on...

Conclusion:
It doesnt really matter what GT5 spec II does; i will be moving to FM4 the second of its arrival on my doorstep.

I agree with you totally.👍

Forza always looks nice, but thats about it. GT always had more long term motivation.
Besides buying an Xbox is about the last thing i would do

Right Gt HAD that but i still enjoy vigirously enjoy Forza's last Ultimate Collection while GT5 is catching dust..Im just saying though. Gt was boring after 4 weeks off playing non stop.

Overall discussion here is a bit childish. The same with today´s gaming industry knowledge. There are a tenths of games out on the market every month and people are just boring... I can remember times when REVS was out on C-64 and was a blast for me. I personally and many of our GT5 racing club members actually prefer Kaz´s vision to stay with GT5 as a driving heaven and this is one and only feature I´m interested in regarding GT5. Forza isn´t bad product, but it is just a social automotive game (the immersion is completely missing). GT5 is more about actually driving a car, not playing a game. This is primary Kaz´s vision and I hope he will stay with his vision in future releases too. There are some limitations regarding GT5, but at the end of each week, GT5 is still the best simulated racing technology on consoles. Period.

Yes....and the most boring and worst game designs ever...

You're right.
On the other hand: GT5 gives you the oppertunity to spent hours and hours taking pictures of your cars instead of racing...

Uhm.... so does Forza.

Driving cars, it's fun, but forza 3 just didn't translate that for me. Plus the replays look about as convincing as Ridge Racer which turned me off a bit and never really inspired me to play for the sake of playing.

I will give you that thats one of the few thing T10 ****ed up.👍

if u read in the interview kaz wanted 2 more years to produce the game so currently he making more premiums and new tracks if he does do the largest update to end all large updates. i reckon he might improve the tuning giving us the ability to adjust turbo boost and fuel pressure as forza doesn't have this if he doesn't do it he needs to

Hahaha lolz dont get your hopes up son, the only thing Pd will be ABLE to release is 2 Premiums.. 2x 6 months= 2 premiums

They did it in a stupid way so i didnt buy it. They made a total of 13 new cars. 10 of which you could get in a dlc and the other 3 you actually had to buy the ultimate edition of the game. Yup buy the game you already have again. No thanks.

Well i bought it i got about 160 new cars + some Unicorn cars i dont know where you get your information.

The only improvement Forza 3 made over 2 was the carlist IMO. Hopefully they can give a little more in Forza 4

You must be joking right?

 

[Dragunov]

I hope forza 4 gets you busy enough so i dont have to read your posts anymore

 

[GTShadowKing]

Some questions...
If some of you guys love Forza so much and only can say that GT sucks in one way or in another (which I'm not saying is not true), why:
1) Are you still playing GT? Videogames are not like football teams ya!
2) Why don't you just go play Forza, if is so much better (I'm not saying that it is/isn't)
3) WTF are you doing on a Gran Turismo site bothering other people with things that they are sick of reading? GT sucks, standart cars, stupid editor bla bla bla...
Can somebody create a Forzaplanet.net PLEASE!!!!

 

[Nooomoto]

I've got both consoles and I've played every iteration of both titles. I probably won't be buying FM4 (I'll rent it from gamefly though). Reason being is the steering wheel. This is the first GT I've played with a wheel and I couldn't imagine going back to a pad to play the game. If FM4 doesn't support the DFGT or other wheels, thus requiring me to purchase the Microsoft wheel I probably won't be buying it and I'll just stick with GT.

That being said...there is a small chance that car porn that will be all over the internet when FM4 is released might convince me to buy the Microsoft wheel. :x

 

[Da-Bomber]

PD should at least try to get a car list like Forza, because to me Forza 3(with all the dlc) has one of the most wanted car lists on any game. Except they don't have a Mclaren f1 shorttail(its confirmed in forza 4 already) and the zonda F.

 

[GTShadowKing]

I hope forza 4 gets you busy enough so i dont have to read your posts anymore

👍👍

 

[Zoom!Zoom!]

I wouldn't be surprised both Fm4 and Gt6 sales will be much lower than Fm3 and Gt5. So there probably will not be much to combat over.

 

[Devedander]

I hope forza 4 gets you busy enough so i dont have to read your posts anymore

Ironically, if GT5 had been better, you would be playing GT5 and not reading forums... thus resulting in just what you desire... not seeing his posts anymore

But alas that is not how it was to be!