COMMENT: Lack of events, hundreds of cars are gathering dust.

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You don't entirely play GT5 because of the events in career mode, sadly enough. GT-series need a stronger career mode.


What are the reasons for having hundreds of cars in our garage? Why should I even bother upgrading my cars? Why can't I just sell them, get rid of them? I just need 10-20 cars, probably less to play through the game. Where is the challenge? Have you ever lost a race because your car is too slow and you haven't got enough money? Not even in the beginning you say? There's no difficulty settings, so you can win all races even with the dualshock controller (which for me is much harder than using my G27 wheel). Where is the motivation in career mode?

Don't get me wrong, I love to buy cars and upgrade them and just take them for a drive for fun. I also drift a lot. But that is not the point here, most of my cars are also just gathering dust and is never used. My garage is a collection, but I have no reason for keeping most of my cars. You get very, very many cars when you win races!

I also know that there is an online mode in the game. I haven't had a proper internet connection since last summer (just a slow and unstable wi-fi connection to my laptop, from a router in another building), and will be without it for at least a month or two. Playing online in GT5 is therefore impossible for me, sadly. I have to update my PS3 somewhere else at the time. Anyway, this is not the point. The thing I want to comment on is the offline, career part of the game.

All the events is done, except some of the endurance races. I have to admitt that I didn't entirely enjoyed playing all the events. AI is not competetive, I get bored of winning that easily. When I bring a tuned car to a race, the AI bring a much slower car. Why?! I have to handicap my own car in able to make the race harder for me. But the AI is so dull that when I get in front of an AI it never manage to bypass me, even if they are faster on the straights. The AI isn't good enough in the corners and are too monotonous. The car of choice done by the AI is just terrible.

Isn't the prices in GT5 just insane? If most of them were to some use, I would understand, but they aren't. When you receive a car you'll "never" need it in a event, at least the majority of them. They just are there, parked in your garage... You actually don't need other than a few cars when playing through GT5.

But I feel that they don't use the potential GT5 actually has! So many features, so many cars, so many possibilities but yet so few events! The AI isn't anything to write home about, or should I say the lack of diffeculty settings?

(The following paragraph I had trouble explaining, and found it hard to formulate.) Another thing I'd like to see is another licensing system. Now it's nearly useless, and is just for training (or trophie collecting). I think that it would helped the career mode if you needed a license to race certain race events, like in the older games. Like this example: You have a set of training challenges (license test like today), and a final test you need to pass in order to be able to race certain races, like the category "enduranse events". And of course you need to pass a license test for each "event group".

Another use of the license system could be to seperate online players, so that everyone drive against equal opponents. The players will then be devided based on skill and factors like their license test results (gold, silver, bronze as well as time). The career mode would therefore also be greater and have a bigger purpose and would motivate players to spend more time in career mode.

Arcade modes: GT-series could use som more arcade modes like lap elimination or race elimination where one participant get eliminated per lap or per race while the last standing player wins.

Another mode I miss is the time attack race from GT4 where you could race agains several opponents while the goal was to set the fastest track time. It's just like time attack, just with other participants.

Also, drift contest, sprint races or drag race could be added.
A drag race would require manual launch where false start would be possible. You'd have to let go of the clutch yourself. Start to soon, and you'd be disqualified.

Personally I hope that we get the choice to enable realistic standing starts in the future where you have to let go of the clutch after the green lights in order to not be disqualified. That would also seperate better drivers from the worse ones. Today GT5 auto-launch for you, making it possible to press the throttle in first gear before the green light.

GT-series also needs more rally tracks, and rally events! I really missed those in GT5!

GT5 is a incredible game, so much content, so many features, so many updates and passionate work by PD, the graphics is just amazing, and the game is so big! And the way PD listen to and care about their costumers is fantastic! No other developer does this, I don't have that much respect for a developer that I have for Polyphony Digital.

But, I feel that there is so much in the game that some parts got down-prioritized or something or didn't get as much polishing as other thing.

GT5 doesn't do it "well" in everything (don't misinterpret, continue reading). The quality varies. It either does something "amasingly, mind-blowing good" or "not that good". The AI and lack of events is one of those thing, that "hasn't been done that good". Nothing in the game is very bad, there is just parts that could've done better, and should've been done better for the sake of the rest of the game. And to fully take advantage of the big potential this great game has!


Bottom line: This is just some of the disappointments of GT5, but there's luckily few of them. GT-series need a better career mode, more events and manufacturer events (lots of them)! We need more reasons for actually having hundreds of cars in our garage, more reasons for earning money and more reasons for tuning our cars! They need a purpose, our cars. The prices are pointless, they also need a purpose and be a part of the progress of the game. Now in the end, it feels like Polyphony Digital made a game where you can buy hundreds of cars and tune them but forgot to make a good reason for doing this.

There are events, but they are generally not as good as they should be. It's like this application where you can build lego creations but can't use them to anything. Or like this car customizer game where you can tune a car, but never get to drive it or never see the advantages of all the tuning you did. Nobody can play that for hours.

Of course, GT5 is not like this, but I hope you see my point and understand what I'm trying to say here. I do not expect this to be fixed in GT5, but hope that GT6 will do this differently.


So, what are your opinion or viewpoint on this? Please tell me if you agree or disagree. Thanks. :)
 
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Very well known, but still very true. PD's philosophy is tough to understand sometimes. Career mode's flaws would more forgiveable if Arcade worked better. Career mode would be better if the AI drove like in Arcade, and we had more options. But it would still be lacking.

You only NEED 10 or 15 cars but you can use as many as there are events. But there are a lot of cars it's hard or impossible to find a race for especially stock. Some really only fit well in the early races that are even shorter and less fun than the later ones. I'd love to see more short endurance races myself.

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Like you I wish that there was more to do in career mode. However, I don't think they will ever have enough events to be able to use every car in the game. And I also wish you could pick a difficulty because the game is way too easy for me, while others struggle greatly. The best thing you can do if a race is too easy is pick a slower car, but I would like to race a car in the same class and be slightly challenged.

Seasonal events have helped a lot, giving a lot more variety, if you ever get an internet connection you should check it out. It is the only reason I still play GT5.
 
But there are a lot of cars it's hard or impossible to find a race for especially stock. Some really only fit well in the early races that are even shorter and less fun than the later ones.

This really bugs me. A lot of the older classics in this game are completely outclassed in the few races they're eligible to race in. But I don't want to tune them so that they're competitive, because then they lost that classic-car feel. A car from the 60s or 70s should handle like crap compared to newer cars, so I want it to drive like that. But in GT5, you almost have to tune them to feel like a modern car to even have a chance to win with them. 👎

I'd love to see more short endurance races myself.

More races of 1-2 hours in length would be a great addition 👍
 
I posted a poll, but thought I could edit it afterwards. Now there is several things I'd like to change/edit. Is there actually a way to edit it? I'm the kind of guy that always edit my posts after I submit. :dopey:

EDIT: I found out how I quoted several posts.

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Thanks! :) It's the first time I'm posting in this particular forum, so I hope I soon get the hang of this forum. 👍

Very well known, but still very true. PD's philosophy is tough to understand sometimes. Career mode's flaws would more forgiveable if Arcade worked better. Career mode would be better if the AI drove like in Arcade, and we had more options. But it would still be lacking.

You only NEED 10 or 15 cars but you can use as many as there are events. But there are a lot of cars it's hard or impossible to find a race for especially stock. Some really only fit well in the early races that are even shorter and less fun than the later ones. I'd love to see more short endurance races myself.
You're right. Like in GT3, there was more races for a specific car like the Yaris or Lancer. Is it just me or was it more race regulations in the previous games?
 
Between the post and the poll that must have taken hours!

Of course I've been wandering around on here enough today to have done three of them myself...

EDIT: You can multi-quote by clicking the icon next to the quote buttons. And yes there used to be hp restrictions and I'm pretty sure tire restrictions. Not sure about weight.
 
Like you I wish that there was more to do in career mode. However, I don't think they will ever have enough events to be able to use every car in the game. And I also wish you could pick a difficulty because the game is way too easy for me, while others struggle greatly. The best thing you can do if a race is too easy is pick a slower car, but I would like to race a car in the same class and be slightly challenged.

Seasonal events have helped a lot, giving a lot more variety, if you ever get an internet connection you should check it out. It is the only reason I still play GT5.
Yeah, there's a lot of potential in the career mode. The lack of events and so on is holding it back, very much I would say!

I actually haven't heard of anyone struggling with this game, that suprise me. :) We really need difficulty options, don't we?! :sly: Another thing I don't like is that I allways have to turn off traction control and other "driving aids" for every car. Maybe a difficulty option could fix this, so that every car has this settings off by default? :) Also, cars that don't have traction control in real life have the possibility of turning this on. Why? This should not be possible, only as a beginner driving aid I'd say.


EDIT: You can multi-quote by clicking the icon next to the quote buttons. And yes there used to be hp restrictions and I'm pretty sure tire restrictions. Not sure about weight.
I found out how, but thanks for helping. :)
 
I've been hoping they would put out an expansion pack that's just a lot of races for career mode, but it don't look like it's gonna happen. It would also be nice if the DLC packs included some career mode races for the DLC cars you get.
 
I wish there was a way to pick cars you want to race against. Make your own races if you will. There are a lot of cars in my garage that don't get used.
 
I've been hoping they would put out an expansion pack that's just a lot of races for career mode, but it don't look like it's gonna happen. It would also be nice if the DLC packs included some career mode races for the DLC cars you get.
I agree that this would be very awesome, but I actually don't expect Polyphony Digital to do this. They have already made a lot of updates, and very big ones too. Just look at other games, I can't mention a single game that got this treatment, PD is just amazing.

I'm sure Polyphony Digital woun't give us more race events before GT6 comes out, so I really hope they prioritize single player mode then. Maybe some of their employers see this thread? :p It's not a crime to hope.



I wish there was a way to pick cars you want to race against. Make your own races if you will. There are a lot of cars in my garage that don't get used.
Yes, that is a good point you have there. The game isn't that good at choosing cars to the AI-opponents.
 
I agree that you should need certain licences, it is a staple of the series that was unfortunatly glossed over in GT5. 40 Silvers and 20 Golds, put to waste as I get rammed once again by an X2011.
 
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More events (hopefully races that are 10+ laps) . Arcade modes AI. Standing starts and more restrictions to tighten up the field.

If that happened, I don't think my GT5 disk would ever leave my PS3
 
I know what you mean, I wouldn't take that big pauses as I do now if the career mode was better, I haven't played GT5 for several weeks now. I don't have a proper internet connection now, so I'm really looking forward to getting wired 16Mbps connection soon so I can try the online mode!

Though, the Gran Turismo formula event is actually very fun. Turn TC, ASM, ABS and such off and it's actually a bit hard. You have to concentrate in order to not doing any mistakes. You easily get gold medals, but it's much better compared to the other race events in GT5.

BTW, ever tried Live for Speed? That game has much more competetive AI, and it's more fun to play offline.
 
I actually haven't heard of anyone struggling with this game, that suprise me.

Usually the people who struggle are new to the game, but I know some people who have a hard time in the beginning and never give it another try, so being able to adjust the difficulty might help some of those poeple.
 
I dont know.For me I dont care about money its easy to come by now.So I just do alot of racing in arcade mode.
Did a 20 laps around spa with heavy damage on it was intense.
Also if you pick a fully tuned aventador and a.i set to highest you race 15 gt citroens lol.
It looks like darth vader the black aventador and storm troopers ... Ima take pics
 
Usually the people who struggle are new to the game, but I know some people who have a hard time in the beginning and never give it another try, so being able to adjust the difficulty might help some of those poeple.
Now I really think PD should add diffeculty options in the future! You can't make a game with one difficulty setting that's suited for everyone, that's just impossible! And this game really needs a "realistic mode", making it harder for people who want more challenge.

I guess that because the game needs to be beginner frendly, it ruins the game a little for those experienced drivers out there. An option for this would eliminate this problem.



I almost pick all the options :scared:

Summary: GT5's Career mode is 🤬
Yeah, I wanted to send like a message or something. I never thought it would that many participants in just one day. I guess I'm not used to big forums like this, I usually hang out in Norwegian forums. :)

The poll is sadly not finished though. :( I was going to change and edit several things. There are some bad formulations and mis-spellings and I wanted to add some more options to make the poll better. Unfortunately it's impossible to edit it afterwards, that I'm not used to. :)



More manufacturer events would go a long way, but that will come with GT6.
That's what I hope! :) To get this in GT5 was never a goal for me, but I really hope they'll change this in the next game!
 
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Paid arcade.
Create own events.
A-Spec overhaul - wider and deeper game play.
A-Spec midlength-Enduros - more 2-6 hour events. (A 6 lap Nordschleife event for the Swimmwagen please!!!!:crazy:)
 
So many different people, even more different opinions and experiences.

My own example:

I've been racing GT5 from the very first day and almost 4 days in a week in average. Majority of my racing have been done online and in Seasonal Races.

At this point I have less than 50% of the A-B-Spec game finished (few Special Races left, all licences golded) and around 50% of Trophies to collect. Just yesterday I've been browsing through A/B-Spec modes and collecting data about all the races I still have to do. Too many :)

However, despite all above, I am Lv36 at A and Lv38 in B-Spec.

Of course, more events and more varied events - especially Dealership races, Manufacturer Events, Mission Races and some new Special Events - would be more than welcomed. But with online racing finally available in the GT series I really feel no void in the current state of affairs.
 
If everyone had asked for an event editor, then we would have been able to create as many new races as we wanted and with whatever cars we chose. ...

but no, most of the kids in this forum where asking for silly unimportant stuff, like changing the wheels and all that rubbish.
 
So many different people, even more different opinions and experiences.

My own example:

I've been racing GT5 from the very first day and almost 4 days in a week in average. Majority of my racing have been done online and in Seasonal Races.

At this point I have less than 50% of the A-B-Spec game finished (few Special Races left, all licences golded) and around 50% of Trophies to collect. Just yesterday I've been browsing through A/B-Spec modes and collecting data about all the races I still have to do. Too many :)

However, despite all above, I am Lv36 at A and Lv38 in B-Spec.

Of course, more events and more varied events - especially Dealership races, Manufacturer Events, Mission Races and some new Special Events - would be more than welcomed. But with online racing finally available in the GT series I really feel no void in the current state of affairs.
I see what you mean, but I don't want the single player to be replaced by multi player. I still want to see offline career mode in games, and in GT5 this isn't good enough. I hope it woun't be too long before I get to play online, I just need a proper internet connection in my apartment. :)

Let me ask you a question, wouldn't you spend way more time in career mode if it was much better than it is now? Better AI, more challenge, more events and so on? :)



If everyone had asked for an event editor, then we would have been able to create as many new races as we wanted and with whatever cars we chose. ...

but no, most of the kids in this forum where asking for silly unimportant stuff, like changing the wheels and all that rubbish.
I can't say I fully agree. :) That's like arcade mode in GT5. It wouldn't be the same to just set up races, it wouldn't be real career mode events. I like to progress through career mode in games, but the event editor you describe would just be an improved arcade mode. I would be just another arcade race that not affect the career mode. ;) That's how I look at it.

I agree to that many people ask and complain on unimportant things, but people are different and have different opinions. We just have to accept that. ;)

But, you have the opportunity to say what you think. Only those who speak out will be heard. :)
 
We used to be able to race WITH our bobs and trade off with them at pitstops.
We had some manufacture races that were great.
We had offroad B spec before.
They were there in GT4
 
What GT5 should have done is incorporate Driving Missions and have a Driving Missions creator.

1 Lap and 3 Lap magic were some of the best challenges I've faced in a racing game.
 
:) Actually, I would love to see some more arcade modes like lap elimination or race elimination where one participant get eliminated per lap or per race while the last standing player wins.

Or the time attack race in GT4 where you could race agains several opponents on a track and the goal was to set the fastest track time. It's just like time attack, just with other participants. I loved that!

Maybe some other things like drift contest or sprint races. Drag would be fun to. But we would have to lounch by our selv, meaning that a false start would be possible. You would have to hold the clutch until the lights went green, or you'd be disqualified.

Personally I hope that we get the choice to enable realistic standing starts in the future where false starts will be possible. So that you have to hold the clutch and lounch by yourself when the lights go green. Like in Live for Speed, I just love that! That would seperate better or worse drivers from each other. Now you can press the throttle until the game auto lounch for you. Now you get a perfect lounch every time.

GT-series also needs more rally tracks, and rally events! I really missed those in GT5!

I will edit the first post later today and add a paragraph about arcade modes. :)
 
id like a pit crew, like in grid someone talking about whats going on in the race, and the ai more like dirt 3 and gird.. makes the game a lot more fun
 
I really like that in Toca Race Driver-series and GRiD, it makes the single player more complete. But I don't think we'll se this in Gran Turismo series, unfortunately. Those games are different from Gran Turismo games, but I hope PD makes the races more realistic that way in the future. We've never seen a single player like that before in GT-games though. No real story line or characters. If that was to change I would be suprised and a bit scared to be disappointed.

Maybe Polyphony Digital suprise us in GT6? ;) Who knows. :)
 
They should have at least put more races in the game. The seasonal events are fun, but they seem to be a bandage for lack of both A and B spec races.
 
The seasonal events are good, but why in a update they just can't add another 100 or so events is beyond me.
 
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