"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[05XR8]

GT4 and TCR are in full swing. PD combining both is awesome, but I do wish the FF cars could have separate races and full on RWD only Gr.4.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Mistah_MCA & sturk167 from Bay Area. Same here from Fremont. Cool LOL...

Bay Area, unite!

 

[05XR8]

Just realized, I haven't tried the "real" GT4 cars yet: Cayman, M4, Vantage, Mustang, F-Type, 86

👍 Excellent everything. Stop, go, cornering, off throttle tuck in, early throttle mid-corner, torque, stability in all the above. Nice car.

Another good one. The Mustang just has it all. Low down torque saves the day. Off throttle tuck in, brakes and stability. It has a firmer suspension than the pillow soft RC F, but it works well on this track.

Lost some spots while players were phasing through one another. My connection is good, but wasn't just me. Cars ahead as well. Lost about 4 positions, but made more ground, while puling away from the MR contingent.

 

[Tea_Leaves]

No race A has ever taken 15 minutes, and at the moment it's absurd that you finish it and have to wait 10 minutes for the next race to start. If it finished a minute sooner then players could enter race B rather than twiddling thumbs.

This has always bothered me. The average Race A takes 8 - 10 minutes so the time gap between is kind of too long. I think scheduled times should be reworked and instead use an increment of 5 minutes. People can move onto to Race B this way so it's more streamlined.

Missing Race B by a minute is a real kicker so you're either waiting around or running hot laps again. I guess with the way it is now, they want to give people ample time to practice/qualify but after qualifying the first time, I doubt many continue perfecting their time. I'd say the more dedicated are likely to perfect QTs outside race windows anyway.

 

[05XR8]

Race in the Jag was a wash, as I got punted from a cheeky divebomb. Good car, but didn't get a chance to race in the pack. Fell to last and finished 14th.

F-Type handles like the Mustang, but with that hesitant throttle like the RC F. Must be the 7-speed thing. Quick car.

 

[SmokeyMR2]

I might be not popular with this opinion but I think the daily races should use a qualifying time only set in that car because if you set a lap time in the meta car but decide to try others you end up out of place for your speed (possibly) and I think this causes more issues at the starts. Surely it couldn't be difficult to save each cars lap time and only display your best time on the leader boards but use individual car times for grid placement.

 

[Veinz]

Finally finished moving into the new house. The previous owners left me a projector setup in the man cave so I’m definitely going to try GTS on that today.

I really like how they forced off CSA, about time.

 

[drummingcat]

I might be not popular with this opinion but I think the daily races should use a qualifying time only set in that car because if you set a lap time in the meta car but decide to try others you end up out of place for your speed (possibly) and I think this causes more issues at the starts. Surely it couldn't be difficult to save each cars lap time and only display your best time on the leader boards but use individual car times for grid placement.

I agree with this.

 

[breeminator]

So, if anyone has 10 minutes to spare, its critique my racecraft time!! (well actually 5 minutes as the last couple of laps are at the front)

It all looked fine to me, bearing in mind the general standard, i.e. everyone is making mistakes all the time to some extent. To give you an idea of how quickly the standard improves as you go up in DR, you're at 7.4k and the 10th place QT was 1:56.5. I was in a lobby with my DR at 15.1k where the 10th place QT was just under 1:54.

 

[05XR8]

Jumped in the CAyman. Dropped the top time I did in the GT-R from 1:53.3, to a 1:52.9.

 

[watto79]

I might be not popular with this opinion but I think the daily races should use a qualifying time only set in that car because if you set a lap time in the meta car but decide to try others you end up out of place for your speed (possibly) and I think this causes more issues at the starts. Surely it couldn't be difficult to save each cars lap time and only display your best time on the leader boards but use individual car times for grid placement.

I wouldn't expect that to be an unpopular opinion. It would make a lot of sense to do this, particularly with Race C where the fastest qualifying car and the fastest race car (with tyre wear and fuel consumption) can be completely different.

 

[breeminator]

I might be not popular with this opinion but I think the daily races should use a qualifying time only set in that car because if you set a lap time in the meta car but decide to try others you end up out of place for your speed (possibly) and I think this causes more issues at the starts. Surely it couldn't be difficult to save each cars lap time and only display your best time on the leader boards but use individual car times for grid placement.

As a counter to that, I think in real world F1, it's legal to qualify with a different setup to what you use in the race? So you could optimise downforce for overall lap time for qualifying but then race with less downforce, for example, to make it easier to pass, and less easy to be passed, on the straights. So picking the best qualifying car and the best race car as separate decisions could be seen as realistic.

 

[SmokeyMR2]

particularly with Race C where the fastest qualifying car and the fastest race car (with tyre wear and fuel consumption) can be completely different.

Yep your right it would be even more useful in Race C 👍

 

[SmokeyMR2]

As a counter to that, I think in real world F1, it's legal to qualify with a different setup to what you use in the race? So you could optimise downforce for overall lap time for qualifying but then race with less downforce.

They go into parc ferme after qualifying which doesn't allow to alter most of the setup, front wing adjustment and tire pressures are all they can do.

 

[drummingcat]

It all looked fine to me, bearing in mind the general standard, i.e. everyone is making mistakes all the time to some extent. To give you an idea of how quickly the standard improves as you go up in DR, you're at 7.4k and the 10th place QT was 1:56.5. I was in a lobby with my DR at 15.1k where the 10th place QT was just under 1:54.

Yes, I really need to find some time on this track, this was my first race on it, my Quali is a 1.55.1 at the moment in the Veyron, optimal mid 1.54, but I haven't even put a strong sector together as yet, let alone a strong lap.

 

[Veinz]

As a counter to that, I think in real world F1, it's legal to qualify with a different setup to what you use in the race? So you could optimise downforce for overall lap time for qualifying but then race with less downforce, for example, to make it easier to pass, and less easy to be passed, on the straights. So picking the best qualifying car and the best race car as separate decisions could be seen as realistic.

Once the cars enter qualifying they cannot make major changes to the setup. If they do then they must start the race from the pit lane.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I might be not popular with this opinion but I think the daily races should use a qualifying time only set in that car because if you set a lap time in the meta car but decide to try others you end up out of place for your speed (possibly) and I think this causes more issues at the starts. Surely it couldn't be difficult to save each cars lap time and only display your best time on the leader boards but use individual car times for grid placement.

You could argue the same about tyres, in race C everybody has qualified on mediums but they don't work as a race tyre for me on a controller (wear out too quick and a bit twitchy on a full tank). When I start on hards I'm a bit of a roadblock, I don't think that is a problem though, we're doing races not time trials, overtaking/being overtaken cleanly is just as important as driving fast.

 

[Stencedaddy]

Once the cars enter qualifying they cannot make major changes to the setup. If they do then they must start the race from the pit lane.

Didnt that actually happen this weekend? Someone failed a front wing test or something and started from pit lane.

 

[Veinz]

Didnt that actually happen this weekend? Someone failed a front wing test or something and started from pit lane.

I think it was Gasly for going over the fuel flow limit. Not entirely sure though.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Didnt that actually happen this weekend? Someone failed a front wing test or something and started from pit lane.

That was Raikkonen his car was excluded for failing a front wing deflection test. The exclusion meant starting at the back, replacing the illegal part with a different spec meant a pitlane start.

 

[Veinz]

Ohh yeah KIMI! i dont know how i forgot about that one.

 

[Gersicer]

I think it was Gasly for going over the fuel flow limit. Not entirely sure though.

Gasly had two penalties at Baku .... One for not stopping for weighing when required and one for exceeding fuel mass flow in quali.

 

[ASH32]

You could argue the same about tyres, in race C everybody has qualified on mediums but they don't work as a race tyre for me on a controller (wear out too quick and a bit twitchy on a full tank). When I start on hards I'm a bit of a roadblock, I don't think that is a problem though, we're doing races not time trials, overtaking/being overtaken cleanly is just as important as driving fast.

If people knew you were on the Hards they might (and that's a big might) be a bit more reasonable with you, as it is the game does not bother to indicate what tyres people are using, which is a shame as it would be helpful to know.

 

[Pigems]

If people knew you were on the Hards they might (and that's a big might) be a bit more reasonable with you, as it is the game does not bother to indicate what tyres people are using, which is a shame as it would be helpful to know.

I agree, it should show tires all race like it does in the live events. I always jump straight into the pits in Race C to see what tires everyone is using, the quicker you get in there the more cars you get to see as they exit the pits for warmup.

 

[05XR8]

Most fun race of the week so far



Most fun car to drive in the week thus far

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

If people knew you were on the Hards they might (and that's a big might) be a bit more reasonable with you, as it is the game does not bother to indicate what tyres people are using, which is a shame as it would be helpful to know.

I probably worded that wrong, everybody races clean it's just that my pace is slower than the cars which qualified with similar times.

Whilst we're talking about tyres I would like more choice at the pitstop so we can put something different on the front or back, it gives you that option before the race.

 

[ASH32]

I probably worded that wrong, everybody races clean it's just that my pace is slower than the cars which qualified with similar times.

Whilst we're talking about tyres I would like more choice at the pitstop so we can put something different on the front or back, it gives you that option before the race.

I'm pleasantly surprised they race clean if you are slowing them down.

With the mixing of tyres they should either allow it at pit stops or not allow it before the start of the race, either works for me. I'm not sure why you can do it and then you can't, that just makes no sense.

 

[Dorofint]

As a counter to that, I think in real world F1, it's legal to qualify with a different setup to what you use in the race? So you could optimise downforce for overall lap time for qualifying but then race with less downforce, for example, to make it easier to pass, and less easy to be passed, on the straights. So picking the best qualifying car and the best race car as separate decisions could be seen as realistic.

No, nothing can be changed in F1. In the qualification and the race the same setup has to be driven. That even affects the tire. For the Top 10 the race must be started with exactly the tire set used in Q2. Only the amount of fuel changes. If something on the setup is changed, the race must be started from the pit lane.

 

[SpaceMaN47y0]

Am I the only one that can't run their Q time in race C? I'm starting 10th or worse usually but seems like people that qualify 3 5 7 seconds slower are way faster than me in the race. They had Q times, fastest race laps 2 or more seconds better. Unless the 2nd tier SR S really is full of sandbaggers, which I don't doubt. If anything this game has taught me ego outweighs any kind of morals. Me first society. Unless they really change stuff overnight, 2 days ago I was at least competitive, now I park in the pits because I'm getting lapped.

 

[El_Beardo]

Am I the only one that can't run their Q time in race C? I'm starting 10th or worse usually but seems like people that qualify 3 5 7 seconds slower are way faster than me in the race. They had Q times, fastest race laps 2 or more seconds better. Unless the 2nd tier SR S really is full of sandbaggers, which I don't doubt. If anything this game has taught me ego outweighs any kind of morals. Me first society. Unless they really change stuff overnight, 2 days ago I was at least competitive, now I park in the pits because I'm getting lapped.

The only time I'll match my Q time in race is if I start my second lap leading the race, with a half decent lead. Other than that, there are far too many variables to take into account during the race.