"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[El_Beardo]

It's funny how people sometimes just don't seem to have too much awareness of what's happening around them. At race C, I pitted at the end of lap 6, and took 4 fresh mediums. A couple laps later, I caught up to a no-stopper, and he proceeded to do his best to block me. Was he just stubborn, or did he not notice that I gained 3-4 seconds per lap on him?

I was patient for a little bit, but ultimately had to use a slight nudge.

You'll probably encounter a few drivers like that, when you pit.

From the perspective of someone who likes to run no stop strategies.

If someone is faster than me, I'm not moving off my line to let them past. I'll follow my line, as I do every other lap. Likewise, I'm not going to intentionally block you. If you're faster than me, you're faster than me. If it means you have to sit behind me for a few corners, so be it.

The emphasis is on the faster driver to make a clean overtake, after all.

Provided the slower one isn't a complete halfwit, weaving left and right to stop you. Feel free to punt those guys.

 

[zzz_pt]

Just wanna tip my hat to whoever drives the Audi R8 in the manufacturers. ^^ Picked the car today for the first time to try and put in a sub 1:30 around interlagos and it's freaking tough to handle and keep the rear end from rolling.

Managed a 1:30:230. I'll try again tomorrow with the AMG. I definitely prefer FR cars in this game. MR cars seem to be unbalanced with the BoP active.

 

[Pigems]

First race went alright, was up to 8th for a few laps, but when I pitted at the end of lap 8 I fell back again. Had some good clean racing though with a couple guys I’ve raced with before. On to the next one now.

 

[NevilleNobody]

From the perspective of someone who likes to run no stop strategies.

If someone is faster than me, I'm not moving off my line to let them past. I'll follow my line, as I do every other lap. Likewise, I'm not going to intentionally block you. If you're faster than me, you're faster than me. If it means you have to sit behind me for a few corners, so be it.

The emphasis is on the faster driver to make a clean overtake, after all.

Provided the slower one isn't a complete halfwit, weaving left and right to stop you. Feel free to punt those guys.

So long as you hold a line I am fine, its guys swinging from wide to inside and vice versa, not crazy but just not predictable, when I am 3 sec lap faster.....ur getting a nudge.

 

[05XR8]

Divebomb central in Race C. I guess everyone didn't have milk with their CAp'n Crunch this morning.

 

[Pigems]

I ended up with a better result on the no stop, I shifted the entire race as soon as the bar started to light up and ran FM1 the entire time. I even had enough left at the end to run full tilt up the hill on the last lap. Kind of an uneventful race though for the most part.

 

[fisheye]

Woo Hoo! Tokyo Outer Loop... Pole position, fastest lap, no penalties, 1st place! I absolutely hate that track.

 

[Ashthebash]

From the perspective of someone who likes to run no stop strategies.

If someone is faster than me, I'm not moving off my line to let them past. I'll follow my line, as I do every other lap. Likewise, I'm not going to intentionally block you. If you're faster than me, you're faster than me. If it means you have to sit behind me for a few corners, so be it.

The emphasis is on the faster driver to make a clean overtake, after all.

Provided the slower one isn't a complete halfwit, weaving left and right to stop you. Feel free to punt those guys.

See, I have no issue with that, there are places on tracks where you just can't (or shouldn't!) overtake. But if I've caught up 5s in two laps then you decide to get all defensive and punchy by taking the inside line down a straight and braking far too late to get anywhere near making a corner I'm going to get annoyed! (The run to T4 at Interlagos this week is a perfect example)

 

[Ashthebash]

Doing Race B from the back of the grid.

A) I'm quick but can't overtake!

B) See A

 

[sturk0167]

From the perspective of someone who likes to run no stop strategies.

If someone is faster than me, I'm not moving off my line to let them past. I'll follow my line, as I do every other lap. Likewise, I'm not going to intentionally block you. If you're faster than me, you're faster than me. If it means you have to sit behind me for a few corners, so be it.

The emphasis is on the faster driver to make a clean overtake, after all.

Provided the slower one isn't a complete halfwit, weaving left and right to stop you. Feel free to punt those guys.

Makes sense. The guy I was talking about was moving off of the normal line to slow me down.

 

[Pigems]

Yup, Tokyo’s where the fun’s at!

Edit: Damm, I should have named my EU account Sir_LagsAlot

 

[Granadier]

If running a 1-stop on Race C is it better to pit at the end of lap 6 or lap 7?

 

[Ashthebash]

If running a 1-stop on Race C is it better to pit at the end of lap 6 or lap 7?

All depends on your position. If you're midfield it's almost worth pitting on L4, earlier you stop though the more chance you have of getting caught behind someone. Ideal is L6, if you're ahead then L7 may be better. Stretches out the field and everyone else who is planning to stop should have done

 

[Pigems]

It happened again, I gotta find a way to get through the first lap cleanly somehow.

 

[Granadier]

All depends on your position. If you're midfield it's almost worth pitting on L4, earlier you stop though the more chance you have of getting caught behind someone. Ideal is L6, if you're ahead then L7 may be better. Stretches out the field and everyone else who is planning to stop should have done

Good to know, thanks! I didn't know about the earlier/later strategy based on your position in the field

 

[Pigems]

Guess who was in the next race? That same dirty blocker, aaaand he blocked me again lol. I tried to pause it so I’d ghost out and go right thru his block but I was to slow. I’ll be ready next time! I got my revenge though, I passed him not once, but twice! The second time came after serving my penalty, for getting hit into a wall.

Edit: That dirty bugger was in the next race too, up to the same old crap, I had a great race going up until I caught him too. I’d had enough this time, I sent him to the Shadow Realm, I guess it’s R4M_Smegip now!

 

[Ashthebash]

Good to know, thanks! I didn't know about the earlier/later strategy based on your position in the field

You can set out with a cast iron plan to stop on lap X, but with the way the Race C is this week and the possibilities you can change your strategy on the fly to cope with the race situation.

General rule of thumb is if you're stuck behind someone, pitting early gives you a faster car until they pit and you can overtake them when they do, it just carries the risk that you might encounter very slow traffic which wrecks your strategy. Pitting late is ideal if you have a gap. You're not going to come out behind anyone and will have a fast car to the end so shouldn't get caught. Neither are the quickest way to finish the race in terms of time, but might be the best way to win them

 

[Redneckchef]

You can set out with a cast iron plan to stop on lap X, but with the way the Race C is this week and the possibilities you can change your strategy on the fly to cope with the race situation.

General rule of thumb is if you're stuck behind someone, pitting early gives you a faster car until they pit and you can overtake them when they do, it just carries the risk that you might encounter very slow traffic which wrecks your strategy. Pitting late is ideal if you have a gap. You're not going to come out behind anyone and will have a fast car to the end so shouldn't get caught. Neither are the quickest way to finish the race in terms of time, but might be the best way to win them

I have been entering the race with a loose plan based on where in the field I am starting and what type of lobby (clean looking or known punters). However I have done the last few races taking lap 1 fast, easing slightly on the second lap, the Lexus then leaves me the option of pushing hard again if it looks better for the 1 stop or short shifting more to ease on to a no stop. Can come in tight on fuel but never been closer than 0.3 laps left yet. Found out that a balls out first lap helped me clear room to properly short shift and stay up the field as well after first lap bonanzas settle down.

 

[Oswald07]

Did race C no stop strategy today. My SR went down to B after twice I had contact with the same person and he went off. During the race I was sure he was doing it on purpose after watching the replay I'm not sure. See what you think or maybe you've had similar problems with the same person. I know I am at fault for bumping him. Accidents happen everyone in the heavy braking zone but did he have to go off, and did I need a 4 second penalty?



This second one he just gets his nose in. I was 12th lap on my tires fuel mix 6 to get to the line. He could have easily passed me on the straight. He wasn't going the long way around here if I was walking so I didn't expect him to be here. Starts at 11:30.



A fun watch, I'm not doing a no stop again.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I dont like how the penalty system is able to be milked. Interlagos turn four in particular, you can be on the inside and ahead before the person on the outside aggressively turns in, knowing that you're there, before deliberately running off the track.

 

[golfer07840]

It's getting downright nasty in the daily races now. I saw someone in the chat after a race, a race in which was one of the dirtiest that I've ever seen, actually wish that the person that side swiped him, get cancer.

Road rage in Sport mode is officially a thing.

Ye Gods....

 

[iMikeTheKing]

I think I figured out how to gain more time in Daily C and the only reason I figured it out came from attempting to improve my time with cars that I don't typically drive. I found ways to take certain corners with those cars that if I could replicate it on the Audi, I would improve my time by a couple of tenths. Tonight, I had a gameplan of attempting to piece the lap together and the confidence to do it but that plan failed. For some reason my Fanatec CSL Elite would disconnect in the middle of some corners which hurt my line. I'm hoping I don't have these issues tomorrow when I make another attempt.

 

[Granadier]

I dont like how the penalty system is able to be milked. Interlagos turn four in particular, you can be on the inside and ahead before the person on the outside aggressively turns in, knowing that you're there, before deliberately running off the track.

This is an incredibly dirty move. The only way I know to attempt to counter if you catch it early enough is to put yourself across the line as well. It still wrecks your lap, and they really need to fix it.

 

[CurbHog]

I tried to no-stop a race in the Porsche. There is no issue with fuel with that car, and the tires were ok with a BB 0 but I simply did not have the pace in the end. So I tried one more race and decided to pit for tires. It was a tough race as I did a big mistake in the Senna S and then had to fight from the back, but given that I was pretty please with my final result. (ALSO: Let me know what you think about the camera inset that I'm experimenting with)

 

[williams_v_r]

Friday morning race c

 

[Invisigoth]

It's getting downright nasty in the daily races now. I saw someone in the chat after a race, a race in which was one of the dirtiest that I've ever seen, actually wish that the person that side swiped him, get cancer.

Road rage in Sport mode is officially a thing.

Ye Gods....

Reading some of these posts is getting depressing... is it tomorrow yet @Pigems ?

 

[05XR8]

Jason Bright just won the first TCR race of the weekend. Quickly threw his team stickers on and tried the VW.

 

[Deadpool]

No stop on the Porsche is easy, consistent low 1:32’s. Couple idiots that like to dive bomb turn 2 and wonder why there’s contact.

Might have done a lil revenge punt lol. But considered it even and passed him clean after serving my penalty lol.

 

[El_Beardo]

See, I have no issue with that, there are places on tracks where you just can't (or shouldn't!) overtake. But if I've caught up 5s in two laps then you decide to get all defensive and punchy by taking the inside line down a straight and braking far too late to get anywhere near making a corner I'm going to get annoyed! (The run to T4 at Interlagos this week is a perfect example)

Makes sense. The guy I was talking about was moving off of the normal line to slow me down.

Yeah, punt those people.

 

[pantherjag]

It's funny how people sometimes just don't seem to have too much awareness of what's happening around them. At race C, I pitted at the end of lap 6, and took 4 fresh mediums. A couple laps later, I caught up to a no-stopper, and he proceeded to do his best to block me. Was he just stubborn, or did he not notice that I gained 3-4 seconds per lap on him?

I was patient for a little bit, but ultimately had to use a slight nudge.

You'll probably encounter a few drivers like that, when you pit.

Yeah the lengths some people go to defend in these situations is crazy sometimes

They are willing to lose 2-3 seconds a lap and allow the chasing pack to close in instead of letting you make the overtake and carrying on with own race.

In these situation the net result for the defending car is that I eventually pass and then they lose further positions as all the defending has allowed other cars to close in.

I also practise what I preach. Was leading in the GTR at start of lap 10 but a 1 stopping audi was 3.8 seconds behind. By time running up the hill to start last lap the Audi was on my tail and my car was in no fit state to defend and they slid it down the inside to take the lead. Still had 2 seconds to another one stopper which I held off to take a nice 2nd place in an unfancied car from 7th

From the perspective of someone who likes to run no stop strategies.

If someone is faster than me, I'm not moving off my line to let them past. I'll follow my line, as I do every other lap. Likewise, I'm not going to intentionally block you. If you're faster than me, you're faster than me. If it means you have to sit behind me for a few corners, so be it.

The emphasis is on the faster driver to make a clean overtake, after all.

Provided the slower one isn't a complete halfwit, weaving left and right to stop you. Feel free to punt those guys.

As said before I think that's fair enough, im not expecting drivers to move aside and roll out the red carpet, I'm more than happy to make the pass, il even do it around the outside and il give you room.

However it's the idiots that you follow respectively for a lap that suddenly think there car can brake 20 metres later than normal from a tighter line than usual when you make a move around outside, collide with you and drive off thinking they have made a great defense that annoys me

Rest assured when I catch them 3 corners later I'm coming through one way or another at that point.