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Word to the wise: don't put the wrong compound and then forget to say don't refuel. It doesn't do you any favours! ‍:banghead:

I was supposed to to 4S/1M/4S but ended up doing two soft stints and finished on the meds. But that fuel cost me dearly. Came out heavier than necessary, stuck behind a McLaren who binned it at the Chase and I ended up not being able to avoid him in a 4 car diversion. Not good...

Still, the mountain seems to redeem DR whereas I've just lost over 1,600DR in three races at Tsukuba....
 
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GR33N
Has anyone been using the Genesis in Race C this week? What's your best finishing time and DR?
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Tried it and found it really slow, didn't log any times.

TonyTufast
I decided to try a different tactic from the DBR9 and went for the AMG, eventually dropping my quali time down to a high 2.03 (Success!)
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Have you tried the Vantage?

MidnightRun85
Still, the mountain seems to redeem DR whereas I've just lost over 1,600DR in three races at Tsukuba....
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Yeah DR is fine, till you get a reset because of all the insane pens. I've been down to D twice this week and I've only went full out revenge mode once and that didn't actually cost me loads of SR due to the insane system.
 
Finally got my SR above 90 last night after a couple of Race C’s. I decided to use the Atenza and Lancer, two cars I don’t think I’ve ever drove before in Gr. 3. Enjoyed racing in both of them.

Next thing to do now is to put some time into getting a good qualifying lap, which I haven’t done yet. Need to try out Race A too. Can’t go wrong with the Mazda Roadster TC.
 
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GR33N
Has anyone been using the Genesis in Race C this week? What's your best finishing time and DR?

Just wondering whether it's me or the car being slow but I can't do better than 18:35. Losing a few tenths in the last part of the uphill section, in the fast corners and obviously some others on the straights. Haven't tried any other car because I just don't have time to get used to them.
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Just posted a 18:41 now, with a lot of fighting and some mistakes. I think this is the average for me, cause I always start in P5-P10 and the first 2-3 laps are not great timewise.

I am always faster on the mountain then the Corvette army but losing on the straights if I don't have any slipstream. In my view is a competitive car here, but definitely not the META - in my races I can hold my own against same level drivers, if I am losing positions usually is not the car to blame.
 
Humour me. For those driving the Aston. Surely the Vantage is the better car? Seen quite a few people talking about the DBR9.

I mean, neither of them are in the top 10. But definitely prefer the Vantage.
 
crusselz
Humour me. For those driving the Aston. Surely the Vantage is the better car? Seen quite a few people talking about the DBR9.

I mean, neither of them are in the top 10. But definitely prefer the Vantage.
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I find the Vantage quicker on a clear lap, but in race the DBR9 has better straight line speed, which makes it more capable against the Corvette/Mustang etc... on the straights. I find the Vantage is great up and down the mountain, but because you can’t overtake in that section, it becomes too vulnerable on the straights.
 
GR33N
Has anyone been using the Genesis in Race C this week? What's your best finishing time and DR?

Just wondering whether it's me or the car being slow but I can't do better than 18:35. Losing a few tenths in the last part of the uphill section, in the fast corners and obviously some others on the straights. Haven't tried any other car because I just don't have time to get used to them.
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I used it at the beginning of the week, primarily because of it's stability - it produced the fastest QT for me, and I made up a good number of places in every race I entered (particularly at the end of the race, as the tyres didn't suffer too much dropoff).

Have now managed a faster QT in the Vantage, so I've been running that in the races instead.

DR is B.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
*Sigh*

That was from last time we raced here, I'll put the fresh ones together later.
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Showoff...actually, I made that work last night, getting by a blocker. Wouldn't leave me a spot even though I had a good drive on him. I thought I might get into the wall, but some threshold trail braking and I made it through. managed a 2nd place on my alt, from 7th on the grid. Accidentally qualified with a 2:03.8. Back to SR-S on my alt. DR has been siphoning off my main for 2 weeks, Down to 20k and SR-A. Alt is about 25k and SR-S.Go figure!
 
D_Dragline
I find the Vantage quicker on a clear lap, but in race the DBR9 has better straight line speed, which makes it more capable against the Corvette/Mustang etc... on the straights. I find the Vantage is great up and down the mountain, but because you can’t overtake in that section, it becomes too vulnerable on the straights.
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Cheers for that. Makes sense. Bit too late in the week to switch cars now I guess. But definitely give it a try next time it comes up.
 
D_Dragline
I find the Vantage quicker on a clear lap, but in race the DBR9 has better straight line speed, which makes it more capable against the Corvette/Mustang etc... on the straights. I find the Vantage is great up and down the mountain, but because you can’t overtake in that section, it becomes too vulnerable on the straights.
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I get your point, but I can usually make enough on the mountain to keep Vettes at bay and if I Mustang is close enough to take me he's better than I am. I can run the Mustang and DBR9 about the same pace, but I'm much quicker in the Vantage. Your only issue is if your stuck in traffic and the Mustang will pass nearly anything then.
 
Here's an example from last night of my starting experience and being out of the slipstream, had this in 2 races this being the worse of the 2. Was hoping to maybe mix it up with @GOTMAXPOWER and pxcam but was not on the cards. What do you guys think? Is this lag, a bug/glitch, randomized or does the vette really just have that much torque?

I don't think the guy meant to take me out obviously, I thought he was chill because of the bump drafts but maybe he thought I was letting him have a run on the inside as payback but I figured he just wanted to tuck in as we had raced previous race and were similarly paced. Another GTS experience for the archives.
 
das89ca
Just posted a 18:41 now, with a lot of fighting and some mistakes. I think this is the average for me, cause I always start in P5-P10 and the first 2-3 laps are not great timewise.

I am always faster on the mountain then the Corvette army but losing on the straights if I don't have any slipstream. In my view is a competitive car here, but definitely not the META - in my races I can hold my own against same level drivers, if I am losing positions usually is not the car to blame.
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bone_tone
I used it at the beginning of the week, primarily because of it's stability - it produced the fastest QT for me, and I made up a good number of places in every race I entered (particularly at the end of the race, as the tyres didn't suffer too much dropoff).

Have now managed a faster QT in the Vantage, so I've been running that in the races instead.

DR is B.
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Thanks for the feedback, of course it depends on starting position as race time starts simultaneously for everyone when the countdown is over. So a 18:41 from 10th with some mid-pack battling is actually faster than a 18:35 from pole in a clean race...

As you say: stable, decent top speed (I guess it was even better before the BoP) but in the end there is nothing you can really do against good drivers in the Corvettes, Supras and Vantages :/
 
It's not like that - because of the last BOP changes now the dailies are improved in my view. I find the races better when we have 8-9 different cars in the 20 car grid than me being the only non-META. When there are several different cars with different characteristics is a lot easier and more fun to tackle your opponents based on their cars weaknesses and strong points. That's why I usually like more the Manufacturer's Cup races opposed to Nations Cup.

So yes, there are cars faster then you on the track, but you can press them into mistakes, defend at the right time and you can throw them in the clutches of the car behind.
 
NSP525
Here's an example from last night of my starting experience and being out of the slipstream, had this in 2 races this being the worse of the 2. Was hoping to maybe mix it up with @GOTMAXPOWER and pxcam but was not on the cards. What do you guys think? Is this lag, a bug/glitch, randomized or does the vette really just have that much torque?

I don't think the guy meant to take me out obviously, I thought he was chill because of the bump drafts but maybe he thought I was letting him have a run on the inside as payback but I figured he just wanted to tuck in as we had raced previous race and were similarly paced. Another GTS experience for the archives.
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Obviously not your fault but he doesn't seem like the kind of person to deliberately push people out of the way, I guess he carried more speed in than he expected with the slipstream or was caught out by the cold tyres and ran in a little bit deep. I've noticed that people tend to race with more urgency when a streamer is in the room, they're more likely to go for what they can straight away instead of waiting like racing to the rain in NASCAR (I don't mean dirtier by that).
 
das89ca
It's not like that - because of the last BOP changes now the dailies are improved in my view. I find the races better when we have 8-9 different cars in the 20 car grid than me being the only non-META. When there are several different cars with different characteristics is a lot easier and more fun to tackle your opponents based on their cars weaknesses and strong points. That's why I usually like more the Manufacturer's Cup races opposed to Nations Cup.

So yes, there are cars faster then you on the track, but you can press them into mistakes, defend at the right time and you can throw them in the clutches of the car behind.
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Oh but I totally agree, I like having a varied field of cars on track. Gr. 3 is good in this regard, I'm curious about what Gr. 4 will be like in race C in the future (and FIA of course when it starts again).

What I meant is that I'm always torn between not following the sheep's train and challenge myself and others with an inferior car, and try and grind DR in the META. I found a solution by alterning between main and alt accounts, depending on the vibe :p
 
I think next week's GRX race C at Suzuka won't be with the Super Formula cars.
I did a time trial this morning, and I suck with that car, and at that track.
Based on my 100 second lap time, it would only be about an 18 minute race. Probably closer to 17.5 minutes for the people who are good.
Aren't all the C races at least 20 minutes?

It's 11 laps with RS tires, so I guess it will be a car that has about 2 minute lap times.

*Also, I tried the B combo. It was quite nice. Yamagiwa is a really excellent track for Gr.3 cars. 👍
 
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sturk0167
I think next week's GRX race C at Suzuka won't be with the Super Formula cars.
I did a time trial this morning, and I suck with that car, and at that track.
Based on my 100 second lap time, it would only be about an 18 minute race. Probably closer to 17.5 minutes for the people who are good.
Aren't all the C races at least 20 minutes?
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Isn't Mount Panorama this week only about 18 and a half?
 
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So Thursday night was really fun racing with Max and Tidgney from the back :D Race C is very nice this week. Lots of things you can do with strategy so you can choose depending on how the race is going. And there's good racing to be had, until things like this happen :lol:


You can also exploit this by brake checking people mid corner, which is definitely an ideal situation :lol: I don't see why anything to do with light contact in the penalty algorithm shouldn't be erased altogether :dunce:

On next week's race C, I'd give it about a 90% chance of being the SF. We've had shorter races than 17:30 before so that's not very significant, but I do hope it's the F1500. RBJ is about Gr.3 pace and they only give us 9 laps in those cars, so the F1500 is pretty much the only other option.
 
BEBOP_Bill
I have been chipping away at race A. I'm so close to breaking into the 45's, can't seem to brake the barrier though. 46.016.
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i know what you mean. What I have found is that for the first sector, there are about 3 slightly different lines you can take to get a sub15 sector time. I find that really interesting because there should really be an ideal line but throttle control and hitting any of 3 paths perfectly all seem to get me to the same sector time when I do well. For me it is something like a 14.990 or whatever. Combine that with nailing the only turn on the track, and bingo.. I have chipped down to mid 46s . I may mess around Sunday just for the fun of it and see if I can get to 46.200 or something with a sub 15 1st sector and a perfect entry/exit on the turn.
 
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GR33N
Has anyone been using the Genesis in Race C this week? What's your best finishing time and DR?

Just wondering whether it's me or the car being slow but I can't do better than 18:35. Losing a few tenths in the last part of the uphill section, in the fast corners and obviously some others on the straights. Haven't tried any other car because I just don't have time to get used to them.
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Recall in the Feb 1 BoP the Genesis was nerfed by 1%. https://www.gran-turismo.com/hk/gtsport/news/00_4767544.html. So it *is* down compared to what you may be used to. Vantage also nerfed.

The Genesis was my all purpose goto car for Gr 3. This week, I found I could go faster in the Evo and faster again in the GT-R.

The Evo has more usable gears and is easier on the tires according to @williams_v_r.
 
GT5Power
So Thursday night was really fun racing with Max and Tidgney from the back
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I didn't start at the back :lol: I spun my way down to you!

GT5Power
You can also exploit this by brake checking people mid corner, which is definitely an ideal situation :lol: I don't see why anything to do with light contact in the penalty algorithm shouldn't be erased altogether
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I think a "no harm, no foul" system would work well, if the car you hit loses no time there is no need to penalise anybody.
 
GOTMAXPOWER
I didn't start at the back :lol: I spun my way down to you!
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:lol: :lol: I thought I saw you starting at least lower midpack in some races but I must remember wrong lol. Regardless the races were great overall :cheers:

GOTMAXPOWER
I think a "no harm, no foul" system would work well, if the car you hit loses no time there is no need to penalise anybody.
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Agreed. Except the penalty system can't even tell where the track is, since it sometimes gives pens for "forcing another car off the track" when both cars stay on track, so I think even something that simple may be a tall order :lol:
 
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