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BigSarj
Omg. My brake meter is almost always very red. I use load cell pedals. Does this mean I should ease ON to the brake, as well? And how is this even possible when Senna Jr is four feet behind my rear bumper?
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I use lc. If you stab the brakes it won’t have the control that a quick ramp up from zero makes.
Often I will show brake lights with a tiny bit of pressure before ramping up if someone’s behind.
Also the racecars often brake better if you time your throttle lift perfectly just before braking because the forward weight shift gives more grip to the front tires. More bite.
Might be good to practice sometimes with ABS weak if you have lc brake too. It shows more the different effects from different ways of ramping up and down brake pressure.
Lc brake gives much much better control-more options. Make sure you turn up tire squeal. Quiet braking is what you want.
Tire squeal at initial application means maybe you stabbed it, slipping the fronts at initial application will lead to bad entry to corner control.
One great thing to try is braking a bit lighter a bit earlier rather than going full brake extra late.
Lots of times it’s faster.
Lc brake has made a huge difference to my driving overall, but it takes getting used to.
You can really feel the cars balance in the ffb too in concert with different braking tactics but you can’t be death gripping the wheel or forcing it.
 
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lemans will be very interesting will hard tires last for 6 laps at x7????? especially now with the long pit times

or do you 1 stop it and chase the no stoppers down

do you start on hards see how things go and stay or dive in for mediums and see if you can again chase people down

KiepeYai
Next week races looks fantastic, best so far imo
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best combo for me by far Gr1 @ lemans i have put up a top 100 time every time they have this combo one of the few combos I can do it with. Hopefully it continues
 
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My one and only rage quit was in Gr.4 at Spa, hope for less rage next week! :scared:

If that goes badly then I'm sure to switch to race C and bin it on the Porsche curves on the final lap.

Looking forward to it!
In all seriousness, looks like a good week. The daily races have been quite good recently IMO, a good mix.
 
jad866
best combo for me by far Gr1 @ lemans i have put up a top 100 time every time they have this combo one of the few combos I can do it with. Hopefully it continues
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I remember i dd well in nations too, no penalties will make it even more fun this time , don’t have to worry about bump drafting
 
jad866
lemans will be very interesting will hard tires last for 6 laps at x7????? especially now with the long pit times

or do you 1 stop it and chase the no stoppers down

do you start on hards see how things go and stay or dive in for mediums and see if you can again chase people down
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You'll have to use both probably, it's usually the case. Which is fine. Sounds good and I need to get better there so perfect chance.
 
Been a difficult few days racing wise for me since the pit time change. My DR did the stock market crash thing again while I tried to figure out hard tyre driving for race c. Even though I was practicing in time trials / ai races and doing ok I couldn't put it together in a daily race, was making silly mistakes and giving places away.

However, I have done a couple daily race C this afternoon and I have at least kept myself on the track so that I wasn't gifting places to folks and they had to put in some effort to pass me. My best finish was a 9th and while that was reliant on folks making errors I still had to stay in the race on the track to take advantage of them.

I hope that means I have made some progress and that I can carry that into next week.

EDIT:. Oh I have just seen next week's race C. Track I am not familiar with using the fastest cars while I assume mandatory hards / mediums. Perfect nothing can go wrong there :boggled::nervous:

EDIT 2:. Ok a few test laps later and I think it will be worth my time to do some practice over the weekend. Weapon of choice is the Mazda LM55
 
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BigSarj
Gotcha. Consistency is the key. I'll work on that because acceleration is hard as hell. I love Tidgney's videos so I'll check out these driving school videos right after Sony's State of Play!
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Some may not agree, but I think making an alt account and racing from the back (with the right attitude) helps racecraft HUGELY, and helps you go faster. When you do this, you get stuck behind slower drivers all the time. Since you're trying to be clean, and dealing with slower drivers, you end up lifting off the gas WAY before your typical brake marker to stay off the bumper of the slower driver, and braking much lighter than normal. You set your speed, giving yourself some room to the car in front, get a good angle for your drive, and get on the gas early to get along side on the straight. You may find yourself on and off the gas in an S curve, and realize you can roll right by at the apex of the second curve because of their bad line. You learn alot because your not pushing, but just driving along in traffic, looking for a clean way past. Good fun!
 
BalsBrother
Been a difficult few days racing wise for me since the pit time change. My DR did the stock market crash thing again while I tried to figure out hard tyre driving for race c. Even though I was practicing in time trials / ai races and doing ok I couldn't put it together in a daily race, was making silly mistakes and giving places away.

However, I have done a couple daily race C this afternoon and I have at least kept myself on the track so that I wasn't gifting places to folks and they had to put in some effort to pass me. My best finish was a 9th and while that was reliant on folks making errors I still had to stay in the race on the track to take advantage of them.

I hope that means I have made some progress and that I can carry that into next week.

EDIT:. Oh I have just seen next week's race C. Track I am not familiar with using the fastest cars while I assume mandatory hards / mediums. Perfect nothing can go wrong there :boggled::nervous:

EDIT 2:. Ok a few test laps later and I think it will be worth my time to do some practice over the weekend. Weapon of choice is the Mazda LM55
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Practice is important for this upcoming race C as slipstream affects the cars handling massively. And Le Sarthe is thecworstvtrack in the game for mysterious track limits. So just be ready for a few here and there that you don't understand. We are all going to get them.
 
Groundfish
I use lc. If you stab the brakes it won’t have the control that a quick ramp up from zero makes.
Often I will show brake lights with a tiny bit of pressure before ramping up if someone’s behind.
Also the racecars often brake better if you time your throttle lift perfectly just before braking because the forward weight shift gives more grip to the front tires. More bite.
Might be good to practice sometimes with ABS weak if you have lc brake too. It shows more the different effects from different ways of ramping up and down brake pressure.
Lc brake gives much much better control-more options. Make sure you turn up tire squeal. Quiet braking is what you want.
Tire squeal at initial application means maybe you stabbed it, slipping the fronts at initial application will lead to bad entry to corner control.
One great thing to try is braking a bit lighter a bit earlier rather than going full brake extra late.
Lots of times it’s faster.
Lc brake has made a huge difference to my driving overall, but it takes getting used to.
You can really feel the cars balance in the ffb too in concert with different braking tactics but you can’t be death gripping the wheel or forcing it.
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This is awesome. @RacingGrandpa as well. This is probably gonna be a game changer for me. I'll work on it all weekend.

I did my first Race C races last night. People were dirty as hell and even though I started top 5 in both races, I ended up at the back in the first lap in both. Luckily, in the second race, most of the grid didn't use the proper tires so I still ended up 5th. I'll take it. I read here that SR is in fact more important to protect than DR so I'm not too upset about it.
 
Redneckchef
Practice is important for this upcoming race C as slipstream affects the cars handling massively. And Le Sarthe is thecworstvtrack in the game for mysterious track limits. So just be ready for a few here and there that you don't understand. We are all going to get them.
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two on the strip two on the pavement
 
Last time we had Gr.4 at Spa, the Corvette and the FFs were the METAs, with some of the other power-based FRs in the mix. All of the former METAs got nerfed in the last BoP update, so it'll be interesting to compare results to last time.

Also, since pit stops got longer, and Le Mans didn't have a super short pit stop to begin with, I think the default strategy for next week's Race C is going to be an easy no-stop on Hards, especially since the Hards can mostly keep up with the Mediums thanks to the slipstream.
 
GTWolverine
Last time we had Gr.4 at Spa, the Corvette and the FFs were the METAs, with some of the other power-based FRs in the mix. All of the former METAs got nerfed in the last BoP update, so it'll be interesting to compare results to last time.

Also, since pit stops got longer, and Le Mans didn't have a super short pit stop to begin with, I think the default strategy for next week's Race C is going to be an easy no-stop on Hards, especially since the Hards can mostly keep up with the Mediums thanks to the slipstream.
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For the last few weeks they've had both tyres mandatory so I think they may stick with that which should mix things up a little bit
 
Next week looks interesting.

In the meantime this was ridiculous.



P3 and P4 had been at each other for a lap before this clip starts. I had copped half a sec for cutting the T2-4 chicane but once I got back to them I was convinced they were going to take each other out. And then lo and behold the citroen goes for a punt up the inside of the last turn when the karting line overtake was definitely on. Doesn't even try to steer into the turn.

Was pretty miffed when he nudged my rear quarter as I straightened up. I had nothing to do with his dive bombing nonsense and was looking forward to stealing a podium. In the end I at least rescued it for P4 and the Italian who was P3 got P3 back. Meanwhile angry French lad hilariously tries to hit me again, ghosts and spins and finishes nearly last!!

But the thing that bothered me was that he never got a penalty for the original lunge nor the attempted double assault on me:boggled:
 
foolsgold74
Next week looks interesting.

In the meantime this was ridiculous.



P3 and P4 had been at each other for a lap before this clip starts. I had copped half a sec for cutting the T2-4 chicane but once I got back to them I was convinced they were going to take each other out. And then lo and behold the citroen goes for a punt up the inside of the last turn when the karting line overtake was definitely on. Doesn't even try to steer into the turn.

Was pretty miffed when he nudged my rear quarter as I straightened up. I had nothing to do with his dive bombing nonsense and was looking forward to stealing a podium. In the end I at least rescued it for P4 and the Italian who was P3 got P3 back. Meanwhile angry French lad hilariously tries to hit me again, ghosts and spins and finishes nearly last!!

But the thing that bothered me was that he never got a penalty for the original lunge nor the attempted double assault on me:boggled:
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That was hilarious. Glad it sort of worked out how it should've in the end. 3rd still finished 3rd, you made up a spot, and the guy who tried to ruin both of your races only screwed himself over. :lol:
 
foolsgold74
Next week looks interesting.

In the meantime this was ridiculous.



P3 and P4 had been at each other for a lap before this clip starts. I had copped half a sec for cutting the T2-4 chicane but once I got back to them I was convinced they were going to take each other out. And then lo and behold the citroen goes for a punt up the inside of the last turn when the karting line overtake was definitely on. Doesn't even try to steer into the turn.

Was pretty miffed when he nudged my rear quarter as I straightened up. I had nothing to do with his dive bombing nonsense and was looking forward to stealing a podium. In the end I at least rescued it for P4 and the Italian who was P3 got P3 back. Meanwhile angry French lad hilariously tries to hit me again, ghosts and spins and finishes nearly last!!

But the thing that bothered me was that he never got a penalty for the original lunge nor the attempted double assault on me:boggled:
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He was just mad because he ran wide and you didn’t let him back on the track. I wouldn’t have let him back on either….he got what he deserved!
 
foolsgold74
In the meantime this was ridiculous.
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Yes you should be banned for that. The other 2 well that's normal driving in their country leave them alone.

Seriously though, removal of pens (sort of) is going to result in this sort of behaviour. In race C a guy from 2 places back just launches himself at me on the 2nd corner gaining 2 easy places and loads of time.
 
foolsgold74
Next week looks interesting.
But the thing that bothered me was that he never got a penalty for the original lunge nor the attempted double assault on me:boggled:
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I have been saying loud and clear in this thread and the penalty thread that this was going to happen. There's no such thing as a contact penalty now, I saw ZERO in 9 races at RBR, RBR of all places! It's wild west.
 
foolsgold74
Next week looks interesting.

In the meantime...
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That's been my experience in race B this week since the penalty change. After some frustration and colorful language I've started to adjust. Bought elbow extensions so they are way out now. Still give space and overtake clean, but I also defend every corner where there's even a chance of a punt or dive, so we're all slower now, but if I get dive bombed I don't have to back out now. I can defend without being penalized.

I have found, at least in the low B DR (everybody is 90+SR now) the fighting goes from lap 1 so I just stay a little back and pick my way through where I can. Just went from P10 Grid to P6 grid between the chicane and hairpin. Took one place on a legit undercut out of the last turn, but otherwise finished up in P4 by virtue of driving by the people on beach vacations.

Hope FIA is better, guess we'll see tomorrow.
 
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NevilleNobody
I have been saying loud and clear in this thread and the penalty thread that this was going to happen. There's no such thing as a contact penalty now, I saw ZERO in 9 races at RBR, RBR of all places! It's wild west.
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I got to witness some bad behavior today at RBR.

B tries to overtake A (T2).
B lightly clips A.
B gets ahead.
B moves over and A advances through T3 right hander.

So far so good.

B gets alongside and passes A at T4 left hander.
A deliberately and with force punts B off the track at T5 lefthander.

No penalty.

I watched B on the replay and he had multiple altercations and a single 3 second contact penalty. He gained 3 SR for the race.
 
Well I have been practicing for FIA and other stuff so not played any dailies till an hour ago. It was super clean at the RBR, the few I had battles with were respectful and clean, it was a really good race. Think you have a chance of races like this, everyone's so fed up they just want to race, unfortunately it only takes 1 dirty player to spoil the race for everyone else. Goin in again so wish me luck. Then it's back to FIA practice.
 
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Well second race was a bit different. One or two dirty move made, but not many. The driving was harder though, you know that level where a youtuber would call a C rated driver dirty, but in an A+ room would say "there was a bit of contact, but it's all good". Personally I'd say it was a bit much, but no one was really doing anything wrong, just a little too aggressive, apart from the couple of obviously dirty move.
Still it was an enjoyable race, unlike the rage inducing pens we were getting at the beginning of the week. Still dubious about this, but tomorrow will be the biggest test, will people race or abuse the system in FIA?
 
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