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When I entered my 1st race of the week, I did not expect this. :eek:

A lot of us were trying to play it cool but obvious we were fanboi-ing out. :lol:

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D_Dragline
Along with the Vantage, the Nissan GTR, Corvette and AMG GT are all very capable. Haven’t come across a Mustang or an F-Type yet.
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Dave_H_87
Some nerves came in around lap 9 but I manage to hold on for what is probably my most impressive win online on GT Sport (there’s only been 10 of them so it’s not difficult to pick!)
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Just wait until you get 65 wins or so. It gets harder to pick a "best win". :lol:
 
2 more races for 2 more wins at Sardegna. The leaderboards and grids are starting to fill with McLarens but the Vantage is META (don't tell anyone though). I've regained 7k DR in just 12 hours, back to A/S after the disaster that was Autopolis last week.
 
Little_Guppy
You are on to something!

Wins are a rare beast for me but one can create a MONDAY-ADVANTAGE! I tried an experiment over two of the previous Sunday's (Spa and RBR). Based on the "Next week" races I picked my best combo then did some practices laps. For the first race (00:10 Monday morning PST) I hopped on as soon as the 15-minute pre-race window opened and banked some QT laps.

The first race is the only race where the field is even for qualifying. No one can rely on 25-hotlap sessions in search of the best time. It is all dependent on what you can lay down in the 15 minute pre-race window. The edge or advantage is to practice before that first quali session.

I ran two races at each combo (four races total). Result: one pole, one race win and and two additional podiums.

Then I went to bed.
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Yeah the MONDAY-ADVANTAGE! is the only day I can win from the back. With fast cars like SuperFormula or Gr.1 you just have to cruise past cars beached in sand or serving penality (not anymore :() and take the win! Later in the week I barely get to 5th as people are more dialed in with the car.
 
Mc_Yavel
Yeah the MONDAY-ADVANTAGE! is the only day I can win from the back. With fast cars like SuperFormula or Gr.1 you just have to cruise past cars beached in sand or serving penality (not anymore :() and take the win! Later in the week I barely get to 5th as people are more dialed in with the car.
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@Mc_Yavel , I have seen you start from the back. One of my victory goals was to stay ahead of you. Nice to see you on the board.
 
I have two questions. It's getting late and I can't be bothered to turn the ps5 on again but can you use soft tires for the qualifying for Race C? And if so, how much quicker than the mediums are they? Like a second or two?

Also, the McLaren must be shortshifted, much like the Corvette?

Edit - @Pigems that is some smooth driving. I could fall asleep in the backseat while you drive me to soccer practice.
 
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BigSarj
I have two questions. It's getting late and I can't be bothered to turn the ps5 on again but can you use soft tires for the qualifying for Race C? And if so, how much quicker than the mediums are they? Like a second or two?
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Yes, you can use RS for qualifying. Haven’t even tried the mediums but no doubt they’re slower on this track.
 
NAXEHT
Yes, you can use RS for qualifying. Haven’t even tried the mediums but no doubt they’re slower on this track.
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This is wonderful news. Thanks. I did a 1:42.1 on mediums, which, being four seconds behind the aliens, is very good for me. If I can take another second off, I just may have another week sitting in pole at my DR.
 
BigSarj
This is wonderful news. Thanks. I did a 1:42.1 on mediums, which, being four seconds behind the aliens, is very good for me. If I can take another second off, I just may have another week sitting in pole at my DR.
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Here’s hoping. Good luck!
 
Did race c tonight, was good fun except for the pushing and shoving, I will never understand trying to pass through the late lap left hander before the final left hander. Its an awkward turn, one line...why you nudging me? Just follow me and pass me on the massive long straight.

Anyways, tried the merc and the aston, aston faster though the merc seemed faster on the mediums.

With everyone now SRS, pace is as per qualy pace so it's really tight and hard to make up places due to there being less errors.

Vette seems popular but I can just never make it work. Anyone given the Ford gt a lash?
 
Ran laps for all 3 races to see what was what. Gonna take some time to get a handle on the cars in A, but if I do the laps I think I can put up a decent time. RBR is always fun. Ran the Jag for a few laps. Not bad, but the top 10 are flying. Race C will take a while. Ran the most laps there, probably 15-20 minutes, in the Aston. Still re-learning the track. These tracks with low lap counts just don't stick at my age. I know I have at least a second more, as I haven't nailed the drive out of both hairpins, and haven't come close to hitting the decreasing radius left, or the fast left kink before the final hairpin right. Getting the drive out of that decreasing radius corner right is worth huge numbers with that long straight following, and I saw what having to lift to stay off the wall did...lost .8 by the end of the straight, and thats from when I was back on the gas, not time lost when I lifted.
All 3 look like fun if the other drivers cooperate.
 
I just watched a couple of lap guides for Race C with the McLaren and neither drivers were shortshifting. I spent my whole time in quali shortshifting.

I don't know where I got the idea that it's what you're supposed to do with that car and I don't know just how much time it will save me but couple that with using the faster compound and tomorrow is looking like dandelions and daisies for me.
 
Rexracer702
Ran laps for all 3 races to see what was what. Gonna take some time to get a handle on the cars in A, but if I do the laps I think I can put up a decent time. RBR is always fun. Ran the Jag for a few laps. Not bad, but the top 10 are flying. Race C will take a while. Ran the most laps there, probably 15-20 minutes, in the Aston. Still re-learning the track. These tracks with low lap counts just don't stick at my age. I know I have at least a second more, as I haven't nailed the drive out of both hairpins, and haven't come close to hitting the decreasing radius left, or the fast left kink before the final hairpin right. Getting the drive out of that decreasing radius corner right is worth huge numbers with that long straight following, and I saw what having to lift to stay off the wall did...lost .8 by the end of the straight, and thats from when I was back on the gas, not time lost when I lifted.
All 3 look like fun if the other drivers cooperate.
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I think a lot of people (lap guides included) get that decreasing radius left wrong. I am braking just after the 50m, turn in and then coast until you see the first near field windmill. Get in the loud pedal and nothing will touch you until the hairpin.

BigSarj
I just watched a couple of lap guides for Race C with the McLaren and neither drivers were shortshifting. I spent my whole time in quali shortshifting.

I don't know where I got the idea that it's what you're supposed to do with that car and I don't know just how much time it will save me but couple that with using the faster compound and tomorrow is looking like dandelions and daisies for me.
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The group 4 McLaren ilikes to be short shifted. The F1 not so much.
 
NevilleNobody
Did race c tonight, was good fun except for the pushing and shoving, I will never understand trying to pass through the late lap left hander before the final left hander. Its an awkward turn, one line...why you nudging me? Just follow me and pass me on the massive long straight.

Anyways, tried the merc and the aston, aston faster though the merc seemed faster on the mediums.

With everyone now SRS, pace is as per qualy pace so it's really tight and hard to make up places due to there being less errors.

Vette seems popular but I can just never make it work. Anyone given the Ford gt a lash?
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I've seen a couple of Ford GTs on track - looks like it runs out of steam on the long straights.
 
Little_Guppy
It was pretty brutal. I do not see how this current system is sustainable. I ran mid-pack today and it was very rough at Race B/Gr4/RBR. Received my second pit maneuver today - just did not see it coming.
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Yes this, the smart dirty drivers do this and it works, they race nicely and then do this if you are going to get ahead, there's just no way to predict it and even if you could it'd be hard to stop. :(


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Tough racing this week so far. I'm gaining places mostly but losing a little DR. Guess I need to up my qualy times even though I'm under my K times already.

Race A has been carnage for me. People just shoving you off on the back straight. Been quite lucky with races B and C, relatively clean. But B is basically a one-make and that one make is Peugeot :yuck: so not terribly exciting.
 
Three Race C(RX-V, M6, 458), where I'm starting no qualy in last and finishing top 10. A+/S/A rooms. JUst staying out of trouble and really not passing only when a car is extra slow out of a corner. Other than that, I'm not using the slipstream and making the car ahead nervous. Braking early when behind them and holding my line.
 
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Haven't raced much over the last couple of weeks, but went for a Race C in the Vantage, got P13 on the grid after a couple of last minute laps.

Started on mediums, and made it up to about P7 by lap 4, saw one of the cars ahead pitting on mediums, so followed in, which seemed to be the right lap. Had a battle over the last few laps with a French guy in a Subaru, got past him at the hairpin when he lost it a bit, only for him to get back past at the last corner with a big divebomb, followed him for the rest of the race but he was all over the place, impossible to get past, until he binned it again at the hairpin on the final lap and I got past for P3.

Think I'll have to do this race a few more times this week, feels like a good combo.
 
So I have a question about Race C this week. At both turn 1 and the hairpin at the top of the hill I am routinely making overtakes. My technique is generally to get a superior run into the straight and use that plus the slipstream to pull alongside the car in front. This is usually on the inside line, but sometimes I take the outside.

If on the inside (and at least level with the car) I brake slightly early, hit the apex and leave room on the outside on exit. After my most recent race someone told me I need to learn to overtake properly after they needed to take the outside line through turn 1.

My understanding is I’m driving clean, but I am interested in whether that’s the general view. I don’t want to be seen as a dive bomber so please let me know if this would qualify as a dive.
 
D_Dragline
So I have a question about Race C this week. At both turn 1 and the hairpin at the top of the hill I am routinely making overtakes. My technique is generally to get a superior run into the straight and use that plus the slipstream to pull alongside the car in front. This is usually on the inside line, but sometimes I take the outside.

If on the inside (and at least level with the car) I brake slightly early, hit the apex and leave room on the outside on exit. After my most recent race someone told me I need to learn to overtake properly after they needed to take the outside line through turn 1.

My understanding is I’m driving clean, but I am interested in whether that’s the general view. I don’t want to be seen as a dive bomber so please let me know if this would qualify as a dive.
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What? How's that dirty? I don't get it, that's what passing up the inside is.
 
D_Dragline
So I have a question about Race C this week. At both turn 1 and the hairpin at the top of the hill I am routinely making overtakes. My technique is generally to get a superior run into the straight and use that plus the slipstream to pull alongside the car in front. This is usually on the inside line, but sometimes I take the outside.

If on the inside (and at least level with the car) I brake slightly early, hit the apex and leave room on the outside on exit. After my most recent race someone told me I need to learn to overtake properly after they needed to take the outside line through turn 1.

My understanding is I’m driving clean, but I am interested in whether that’s the general view. I don’t want to be seen as a dive bomber so please let me know if this would qualify as a dive.
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I'm pretty much in the same boat. I have been trying to work on my braking technique. Of course this has meant my speed has lowered whilst I adjust to this but I feel I am making forward progress again. However going into heavy braking zones I am being too conservative when going for an overtake. Partially due to thinking about my braking too much and also too much thought into not effecting their race. This has allowed them to keep their position around the outside. I think maybe we are both overthinking it too much. And of course practice never hurts.
 
OJBrit
I'm pretty much in the same boat. I have been trying to work on my braking technique. Of course this has meant my speed has lowered whilst I adjust to this but I feel I am making forward progress again. However going into heavy braking zones I am being too conservative when going for an overtake. Partially due to thinking about my braking too much and also too much thought into not effecting their race. This has allowed them to keep their position around the outside. I think maybe we are both overthinking it too much. And of course practice never hurts.
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I feel like I have made a significant breakthrough this week. I’m actually braking with a lot less pressure and it’s cut my braking distances by a lot. I’m also getting off the brake earlier and I think this is contributing to it as well. I find I am often braking later than opponents but ending up getting it stopped quicker. I wonder if some of them are assuming that I won’t possibly be able to make the corner when I am actually doing it easily. If I can ever work out how to upload a video I’ll try and show a couple of examples.
 
D_Dragline
So I have a question about Race C this week. At both turn 1 and the hairpin at the top of the hill I am routinely making overtakes. My technique is generally to get a superior run into the straight and use that plus the slipstream to pull alongside the car in front. This is usually on the inside line, but sometimes I take the outside.

If on the inside (and at least level with the car) I brake slightly early, hit the apex and leave room on the outside on exit. After my most recent race someone told me I need to learn to overtake properly after they needed to take the outside line through turn 1.

My understanding is I’m driving clean, but I am interested in whether that’s the general view. I don’t want to be seen as a dive bomber so please let me know if this would qualify as a dive.
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Sounds like fair overtakes to me. Maybe next race you do, save the replay and post a video.

Easy to comment if you do have any clips. But often someone who doesn't yield in an obvious situation, in their desperation to remain ahead, will make a mistake and accuse you of being a dirty driver.

EDIT: A quick example. I over cooked it in to the corner. But both drivers "yielded" to the car on the inside and tried cut backs. Reckless on my part, but hopefully not dirty (open to being corrected on that)



EDIT 2: @NevilleNobody if you're side by side, surely you expect room to be left and likewise you need to leave room, both on entry and exit of the corner. Unless you've edged ahead through the corner.
 
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