"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Alpha Cipher]

Something is wrong with race A. I completely missed all brake points and going straight forward and have a top 10 time ?

I thought the penalty’s were fixed ???

How does that work? What chicane did you miss?

I've noticed that Race A are more suscpetible to cut glitches...

 

[05XR8]

Redemption

That Mustang can win, but keeps getting penalties just about each race. Shame.

 

[Macboyilija]

Just straight on first chicane. Being put after chicane with only 4 seconds penalty. Missing the next chicane on the right being put up front. Losing the 4s because of no TCS.

Lol. WTF ?

 

[05XR8]

Something weird happened the previous race. The whole field got baulked by a "stalled" Trophy. The cars behind me, passed me and a couple others before the start. Then, the blue flags and blue lights are activated for the first half of the first lap.

Anyway, improved my qualy to a 2:05.966. Pushed hard to the end.

That's my last race before the Nation's Cup. I'm deciding to just be a Gr. 4 racer. This Class suits me the best.

 

[Macboyilija]

1:54 Monza now. That seems absurd so the glitches dont seem fixed. No replay to check it.

Had an 1:58,6 ingame so dont feel obliged not to participate but still feels as bad sportmanship. Will not participate for the day.

 

[Invisigoth]

Also anyone else developed an irrational loathing of the Megane 11? Every time one dive bombs me I can feel my blood pressure rising, they are giving me road rage.

Like 05XR8 said, they aren't a bother. There might be 2 or 3 in a race, but I usually see a wide range of cars in my races, both in DR/D-C races and DR/C-B. 👍

Anyway, was on for 5th place, but a 4C decides to squeeze me towards the grass at the hairpin. It was only me and it. We left the others behind. Really sucks because I was fast from where I stated in 8th.

Sadly I've been in the 4C's position before where the car slides and at that point you're more or less a passenger hoping the car stays on the track. As pointed out by the "elites" the correct course of action is to pull over and wait for the other car to re-gain position, but that rarely ever happens. You're more likely to get rear ended and spun out, taking out more cars in the process. Car control is a somewhat limited commodity at the lower of the of spectrum .

 

[ShiftingGears]

I was leading the Daily Race at the Nordschleife and defending my position (at racing speeds, on the track) when first and second position slipstreamed and ghosted straight through me. This shouldn't happen ever - is there something I've missed?

 

[MhtyClipster]

Well am down in D/E and the grids have plenty of them the braking difference between that car and the rest of group 4 is my main issue. Minus 59 manner points currently for the day, well probably more but 1 is as low as ratings go. The win at all cost tactics of the drivers down here means unless you qualify in the top 3 your going to be off at the first corner? If you make it past turn 1 there is always the hairpin for a bit of divebombing.

 

[05XR8]

I was leading the Daily Race at the Nordschleife and defending my position (at racing speeds, on the track) when first and second position slipstreamed and ghosted straight through me. This shouldn't happen ever - is there something I've missed?

I've done that to some cars that are fighting each other. No penalty warning for them, but just a random ghosting.

 

[Invisigoth]

I was leading the Daily Race at the Nordschleife and defending my position (at racing speeds, on the track) when first and second position slipstreamed and ghosted straight through me. This shouldn't happen ever - is there something I've missed?

You sometimes ghost if you let off the throttle. I had that happen to me at BB turn 1 when I let off, I ghosted, and the digby who was trying to use me as a wall brace passed through me and slammed into the wall. I've ghosted on corners in various races when I've coasted round the corner.

Edit - Since I didn't want this to be a double post....

Pre-qualified for Race B. Managed to beat my last time at that track by a few tenths. Still more than 2s behind 05XR8 with the same car. Match fixing comes up and I'd qualified P2!!! Then I was disconnected from the server . I doubt I'll be that high up next attempt. BTW only 3 Meganes, with the highest qualified 3s slower than me, and I'm slow.

 

[05XR8]

You sometimes ghost if you let off the throttle. I had that happen to me at BB turn 1 when I let off, I ghosted, and the digby who was trying to use me as a wall brace passed through me and slammed into the wall. I've ghosted on corners in various races when I've coasted round the corner.

Edit - Since I didn't want this to be a double post....

Pre-qualified for Race B. Managed to beat my last time at that track by a few tenths. Still more than 2s behind 05XR8 with the same car. Match fixing comes up and I'd qualified P2!!! Then I was disconnected from the server . I doubt I'll be that high up next attempt. BTW only 3 Meganes, with the highest qualified 3s slower than me, and I'm slow.

I set TCS to 0 for that last Qualy. Changed my brake point at "the bowl" first downhill right-hander. Just to tighten the apex.
Must be the difference from Qualy and server races. Or PD must program in some hocus pocus. The car is hooked up in Qualy, then, during the race, mind you there's no tyre wear, the car is not braking properly. It's not scrubbing enough speed. It's got too much understeer.

Sometimes I don't know what makes the difference in races. I've mentioned before when I run with no other cars. Is there lag? Too much processing power being used to render cars when I'm in a pack. Are scenarios programmed into races?

Forgive me for babbling. Real racers have good days and bad. Their car is off one weekend or even from Practice and then in a race, its a race winner. Feels the same when I race. I get that #6 on the car and I have awesome races.
Sometimes, I'm setting fast times with no mistakes and all of a sudden, car behaviour changes dramatically.

 

[Invisigoth]

Must be the difference from Qualy and server races. Or PD must program in some hocus pocus. The car is hooked up in Qualy, then, during the race, mind you there's no tyre wear, the car is not braking properly. It's not scrubbing enough speed. It's got too much understeer.

Yeh, I've long noticed that the cars behaviour, even in no fuel consumption or tyre wear is worse in races compared to qualifying. Maybe they put special qualifying tyres on in secret .

So, I managed to shave a fraction more off to give me a time under 2:08. More speed, lower starting position . This time P5. The grid was somewhat... skewed. A+, A, A, the rest D. I was P2 amongst the Ds with thousandths of a second separating me from the guy/girl behind me.

The flag drops and it's a mad dash for T1. I have no idea what carnage lay behind me, but myself and the 4 cars in front got through with no contact or dive bombs or late brakers trying to crowbar their way up the inside and then slow down. I took a more inside line for t1. It's slower, but it did protect me from the inside divers, and even though I was slightly in front of P4, I didn't see any point in trying to force the issue at the first fraggin corner of the first lap of the race. I just ducked in behind him 👍.

From there it was just trying to keep it on the track. Even though the handling wasn't as sharp as in qualy, the NSX still handles like a faster 4C. 05XR8 was probably pushing the limits more than me, which is why I didn't notice the difference to the same extent . Was keeping an eye on the gap behind which ranged from 2s to 0.2s. Got rear ended a few times. Almost got rammed off the track at T1 on the 3rd lap, but stayed in front. I believe all contacts were due to my braking being harder and possibly earlier than his. Not deliberate.

On the final lap we came to a corner, not sure which one. I didn't take it as tidy as I should have and he clearly had better speed coming out of the corner. I could have blocked as a "one move" , but figured he'd earned the position and I'd gotten conservative trying to avoid penalties. My pace had dropped and I was holding him up. Then I saw the red flashing penalty, and just tried to keep as close to him as I could. I had a 13s gap behind me, so the only pressure was to keep it on the track whilst trying to keep up to the Ferrari in front .

And the finish:

Was kinda hoping for P4, but the guy in P4 didn't have enough of a penalty .

SR still 99, DR up a small chunk .

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I was leading the Daily Race at the Nordschleife and defending my position (at racing speeds, on the track) when first and second position slipstreamed and ghosted straight through me. This shouldn't happen ever - is there something I've missed?

I had that happen a lot on Tokyo last night. Even when I don't have a penalty, go full speed, brake at the perfect time, and the car behind me (with a penalty) simply overtakes through me as if I'm not there. Collision detection was just phoning it in last night.

I did notice that cars kept ghosting in all kinds of places at near full speed or while braking. When I had a penalty myself I also noticed that it would sometimes count back a few thousands while driving as best as I could. So buggy. At least it ghosted brake checkers on the straight instantly, big improvement

 

[Invisigoth]

Ring! Ring! Why don't you give me a call? Race C was not very kind to me. I managed to qualify 2.5s faster than my best time to date. That gave me a good starting position of P3 behind an A+ and a B.

T1 and I was slammed into by someone who hadn't worked out what brakes were so hard the wall I hit shook . Big orange SR and a time penalty . By the time I got going again I was in last place. I worked my way back up to P8. Things were fine and I had the blackbird dancing through the section after the Karussell. Tried to slow down for some slow traffic, caught the back tyre on a curb and spun. GTS was not helping with my attempts to get back on the track between changing gears that I did not select or want before re-spawning me. Back to last place again .

Pitted last, then try again. I slowly started working my way through the field again, but it was difficult because people kept driving in the middle of the road when they can see they are crawling compared to me. On that second lap I got 3 orange SRs . First from someone who suddenly slowed down in front of me, and two from people spinning out in front of me and not ghosting while I have my boot buried in the bottom of the foot well. I lost some of my penalty, but was still carrying 6s worth across the line. Finished a disappointing P12 . I was really surprised just how much difference there was in speed between the back of the field and the front.

SR dropped from 99 to 82. DR dropped about 70. Another day above DR 1.

 

[Macboyilija]

Ghosting should be stopped immediately. It is the most unrealistic thing they could come up with. Can’t make a good penalty system ? Lets ghost em ....

 

[Veinz]

I've raced some of the top Meganes in my region, as I've mentioned, it's a stable car that gives the player confidence. I drove one for the One Make a couple weeks ago. Good car. But it still isn't all that. It's a one trick pony for certain courses. It's not an all rounder. If it can do it all, THEN, it's all that. That's my point.

Here it is dominating another track in Race B today, It's blatantly obvious that it's OP.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Ghosting should be stopped immediately. It is the most unrealistic thing they could come up with. Can’t make a good penalty system ? Lets ghost em ....

Ghosting accidents keeps the race going.
Ghosting brake checks keeps the trolls out of the way.
However ghosting for penalties gets abused all the time.

Every time you trigger an emergency ghosting it should be a 5 sec penalty. Serve the penalty out of the way of others and put it back the way it was where you had to slow down a lot so you don't accidentally trigger it as is the case now. If the game still needs to ghost you for being slow on the racing line or in front of traffic, add 5 sec to the penalty time instead.

If you screw up and the game needs to ghost you to avoid a collision, SR Down, 5 sec penalty. It was getting ridiculous on Tokyo at the hairpin where people were simply coasting through me in the corner. No need the brake on time, the game will let you drive through any cars in your way... You should not get a free pass and position gain for what otherwise would have been a collision with penalty.

 

[Rinsky]

Ghosting should be stopped immediately. It is the most unrealistic thing they could come up with. Can’t make a good penalty system ? Lets ghost em ....

Agreed.

Ghosting accidents keeps the race going.
Ghosting brake checks keeps the trolls out of the way.
However ghosting for penalties gets abused all the time.

Every time you trigger an emergency ghosting it should be a 5 sec penalty. Serve the penalty out of the way of others and put it back the way it was where you had to slow down a lot so you don't accidentally trigger it as is the case now. If the game still needs to ghost you for being slow on the racing line or in front of traffic, add 5 sec to the penalty time instead.

If you screw up and the game needs to ghost you to avoid a collision, SR Down, 5 sec penalty. It was getting ridiculous on Tokyo at the hairpin where people were simply coasting through me in the corner. No need the brake on time, the game will let you drive through any cars in your way... You should not get a free pass and position gain for what otherwise would have been a collision with penalty.

It might be ok with some in Sport Mode but it really irritates me that it carries over into the lobbies and its even more sporadic and unpredictable than in Sport Mode.
You turn all Ghosting off in the settings and yet people are still Ghosting all the time. Its very annoying.

 

[sturk0167]

perhaps Friday nights there are a couple DUI in the race...

Ha ha. Yeah, probably.

Great start to the day down to 31 manner points, probably get reset next race. Just in time for the FIA races later.....
Also anyone else developed an irrational loathing of the Megane 11? Every time one dive bombs me I can feel my blood pressure rising, they are giving me road rage. Its not my fault they brake about 10 meters after me? B/C racing at its finest.

Huracans can beat the Meganes.

 

[05XR8]

Here it is dominating another track in Race B today, It's blatantly obvious that it's OP.

It's the flavour of the month. Or until the next BoP update. I just run my race.

Huracans can beat the Meganes.

I've been in races where they have. 👍
Meganes surely didn't dominate at Blue Moon Bay. In my region.

 

[TheNorfolkDad]

Just the one race B tonight, qualifying time is 2:06.005 so three and a half seconds off the aliens, that’s pretty poor for me. Starts me 15th and finished 11th, how are these one lap wonders even getting times of 2:04 and 2:05 to begin with?

 

[MhtyClipster]

Huracans can beat the Meganes.

I see your point the Huracans are so good that there are none in the top 10 Europe.
Also in the FIA race I did earlier 8 out of the top 10 where Megane 11's including the top 6 positions....
It should not be in GR4, not without some serious BOP fix. It might not be the fastest on all tracks but if you can do a 2.02.033 in your Huracan please upload the lap I would love to see it.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I see your point the Huracans are so good that there are none in the top 10 Europe.

Most of the racers that are capable of frequent daily visits to the top ten leaderboards can take any car in the class regardless of the BOP at the time and set a better lap time than 90% of the rest of the 1000's of racers playing GT Sport.

Just because these top fastest racers may need to use the top car to turn within in the chart you show within .5 of a second of the other normally fastest guys does not mean that it is not possible for a normal racer that is several seconds off the top 10 times to actually do better with a different car in the same class that perhaps maintains a bit better stability overall and lessen his chance of making a position costing mistake over a full race distance.

Driving skills vary greatly among different racers and all racers for sure do possess the skills of the top 10 guys so saying one car is not as good just because it is not on the top 10 leader board means little to most racers of average talent

 

[MhtyClipster]

Nations Cup was a quiet affair. Qualified 6th and had a fantastic duel in the closing laps to claim 5th. However the amount of Megane Trophies being used was ridiculous. Including mine, 10 of the top 11 were all Trophies. The only other car in that top 11 was the previously OP FWD Megane.

I also tried several other cars today while qualifying and the Megane 11 was by far the fastest IMO, I used the Lexus personally but finished outside the top 10 in the FIA race. I am willing to be proved wrong though, as I said in the previous message if you can go faster than a 2.02 in any other car I look forward to seeing the lap. Also who needs stability to divebomb? Surely just having the best stopping distance is usually sufficient to get the job done. I guess your uploading your 2.01 lap at the moment.....

 

[05XR8]

Can't wait to see how that OP Trophy does at Monza today. Watch out "OyVey"ron/Megane RS/Mustang/Viper/M4/Citroen/Scirocco/RC F/Atenza/458/Evo/STI/Peugeot/Jag/Vantage/(Sorry, 4C ) drivers, train comin'.

 

[MhtyClipster]

The OP Trophy should be a perfect choice for all dive-bombers into the first chicane. Not too long to wait to find out, personally I will chasing the dragon. Trying to regain my DR, my SR isn't too bad after winning the FIA race at Inter Lagos earlier, started pole managed to spin twice and still win by around 20 seconds. A hollow victory to be honest after getting reset earlier in the day.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

My first race at N24 was late and messy, hopefully it improves later. There was a lot of stuff going on, I first need to find my zen again.

First my internet was gone as well as the landline. On hold with tech support, outage in the area, people working on it. So make dinner instead. Steak on the bbq, yum. I time it as usual then suddenly a loud crack. The window next to the bbq just cracked, the whol bbq is on fire. The triangles inside collapsed and the whole thing turned into a huge grease fire. Gas off immediately, take the charred steaks off and let it burn out. The bbq is done, the pipes distributing the gas are even burned up. I guess we're lucky the house didn't catch on fire (wood paneling). So big cleanup later and patching the window with tape (long weekend, won't get a repair in soon) we still ate the charred steak, well well done. At least it's only the outside pane that cracked, should be fine until next week.

So with that all in my head, red S for the first race (half the field was a mess), finished 9th due to a penalty. Better luck next race.

 

[Invisigoth]

Can't wait to see how that OP Trophy does at Monza today. Watch out "OyVey"ron/Megane RS/Mustang/Viper/M4/Citroen/Scirocco/RC F/Atenza/458/Evo/STI/Peugeot/Jag/Vantage/(Sorry, 4C ) drivers, train comin'.

Yeh. Sadly the little 4C is just too slow on a big track. Agile on tight, short circuits, but just not very fast. I've found the NSX is similarly nimble , but much faster. I'm sure PD will find a way to stuff that up . You can probably take the M4 out of that list, it just doesn't have the pace any more.

My first race at N24 was late and messy, hopefully it improves later. There was a lot of stuff going on, I first need to find my zen again.

So with that all in my head, red S for the first race (half the field was a mess), finished 9th due to a penalty. Better luck next race.

Good luck mate . Hope things go go well for you 👍.

 

[05XR8]

Shame about that M4. I followed one around Monza when I was in the Mustang. The player was pretty quick with it through the chicanes.

Definitely want to see how the NSX stacks up. It hasn't been lacking for straightline speed at any circuit, so far. I really didn't pay it much mind, initially.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Shame about that M4. I followed one around Monza when I was in the Mustang. The player was pretty quick with it through the chicanes.

Definitely want to see how the NSX stacks up. It hasn't been lacking for straightline speed at any circuit, so far. I really didn't pay it much mind, initially.

Funny that you choose the NSX because when I drove it, it was absolute trash. So trash in fact that I got rid of it. Car weighed too much and simply couldn't keep up with the Meganes and M4's. However that was a few months ago so the BOP might've changed since then.