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sturk0167
I do that all the time, on that turn. đź‘Ť

@Sven Jurgens maybe it's time they consider allowing contact to cause damage that slows you down, or forces you to pit for repairs. I thought I remember hearing that they've done something like that for the FIA races. Any word on if it's working?
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Aye, it's working, I'm not touching FIA races anymore. I would be done in T minus one on most tracks, better turn around and go to the pit if not starting dead last.

I survived the 6:30 race! Got bumped around a couple times but the penalty system did not screw up. I finished 5th again, with one other without a red dot.
 
fastone371
Do you mean that last right hander before the main straight? How do you gain time by going so wide, because you can arc the corner and maintain a higher average speed even though its a much longer path??
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Yep, exactly. Just carry way more speed on a bigger arc and use the banking to help hold the car. You can go all the way to the sand. It doesn’t seem like it should be faster but I think it is
 
I set a time of 1:43:5xx with the Viper when qualifying for Race B today. Is that a good time? I usually end up qualifying for around 10th, give or take a position, and I'm also generally unsure of when to disable TCS. On one hand, it's almost impossible for me to drive well in a Gr.1 car with it entirely disabled, but on the other, I feel like I get a tiny bit more straight-line speed when I disabled it on the main straight at Fuji, when using the Viper, as I think the TCS kicks in for a fraction of a second between shifts.

Generally, I am seeing 4WD cars as being the most popular when it comes to Gr.4 in general, especially the Huracan. Do you suppose FR cars in Gr.4 need a buff? I almost never see them, except for the occasional Viper. Like, I almost never see anyone using the Gr.4 Corvette, Mustang, M4, SLS-AMG, nor Genesis Coupe. Maybe it's just that 4WD cars need a nerf, and both Renault Gr.4 cars should stay nerfed, whereas the FR & FF may benefit from either being untouched, or a slight buff...
 
This is the state of Sarthe day 3
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No stop 908 HDi is the tool to win. The race after all the 908s ran into each other mixing up the field. The surviving 908 still easily won, followed by 3 TS050s (not me, I finished 9th)
 
Pigems
The track limits on race A are just silly, you can skip the entire last part of the track. I wonder if they will fix that in the update tonight?
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It's really inconsistent. I tried to replicate the lap that the number 1 guy did. All kinds of penalty time. Then I tried to run it clean. Still got penalties. Worst track limits ever.

@Sven Jurgens are you pitting?
 
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One thing I hate about Sarth is those dumb chicanes before the start line. If I drive the Audi through there really slowly, it barely has the turning circle to get through there. Is the track that tight there?

I've done now 7 laps altogether and am just about as slow, but I know now what is going on in my weak mind. And I have kept the TC off because I know if I allow my weak mind to forget the reflects I have learn't, I'll be back to where I was two months or so ago.

But anyway, it seems to me I'll get faster if I back right off before the corner and let the tail hang out (or change the direction of the car). Its also a corner exit speed track. Also, I need to have the confidence to do that change of direction well before the corner, and the faith that the tail will turn the car, along with likely lots of steering angle. And also, I will need to start the cornering much earlier than seems normal to my mind (not sure if that is the car handle or my reaction to its speed, but I can drive the F1 cars quite OK). As far as I am concerned, when I put the power down, be careful of even second gear because even that gear will spin my car.

Incidentally, my PS4 said the maintenance will also have a game upgrade. Maybe they'll introduce those penalty zones, we'll love them, especially Sven and those who are playing at Sarthe. I don't know if I'll even have a race there as I am scared, but at least if I have some practices I'll learn the track and some of the nuances of those fast GR1 cars. Weird thing about them too, is that at very slow speeds, they don't seem to stop ... really quite a weird feeling.
 
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Pigems
The track limits on race A are just silly, you can skip the entire last part of the track. I wonder if they will fix that in the update tonight?
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I watched some of the top 10. Rediculous! I was going to try to get down into the 55's, but now
I don't know. I've been running wide on T1 because everyone racing was doing it, but staying on track otherwise. I'd like to get into the top 100, but I don't really want to get a time on the boards that skips the last 2 corners. The way I was running on the few laps I did, tonight is not the night for records.

@Pigems , I saw you knocked over a second off your early time. Any chance you're gonna post a vid ?
 
BallPtPenTheif
Same here, I always get confused at that last complex just before the double chicanes. I think there might even be a brake marker back there that's off or something as there's always some detail that turns it all upside down and I'm on the wrong side of the track before a high speed turn.
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Brake marker is the two cones just before the pit entrance (if I’m reading your question right).

Had fun racing this afternoon. Once again got the orange down arrow when I hit a guy that brakes hard on the Mulsanne Straight before the first chicane. The two cones had not even come into clear view; I think the brakes at the first sign (the cones are after the second sign).

I’m doing all I can to use FM2 and run clean and move to the side for the faster people. Managed to get third on a few races today (all race C). I get frustrated at dirty drivers, but am finding racing the computer is no fun anymore.
 
TimBoss351
Brake marker is the two cones just before the pit entrance (if I’m reading your question right).

Had fun racing this afternoon. Once again got the orange down arrow when I hit a guy that brakes hard on the Mulsanne Straight before the first chicane. The two cones had not even come into clear view; I think the brakes at the first sign (the cones are after the second sign).

I’m doing all I can to use FM2 and run clean and move to the side for the faster people. Managed to get third on a few races today (all race C). I get frustrated at dirty drivers, but am finding racing the computer is no fun anymore.
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Evidently there might change in the refuelling timing, so perhaps stopping in Race C might be worthwhile,

I ran a couple more laps of Sarthe, and while still very slow, the car felt easier to drive. I checked in TC was on, but it wasn't. Then I had some spins and for sure, it wasn't, because its not easy to get going again (also ridiculous that I cannot put it in first with light r3vs, then 2nd with light revs and accelerate away ... instead at low revs, nothing happens. I've checked the rear view, and there's no smoke, so IMO the game just ignores your attempt to get away .. instead, put it in 4th or 5th and full throttle, and the car gets away - then go to 2nd or 3rd and you back accelerating. Pretty strange physics engine there guys from PD - who clearly have never crashed.

They've slowed some GR3 cars down, like the Lexus's, the GT Ford, and they've made some faster, including the already fast Mustang. Ford must have paid PD something ... The Mazda is quicker too, which was already quick. The Corvette also has had an upgrade but it was IMO quit a bit slower than the Mustang, so it sure needed it IMO. The Aston has had an upgrade too and at some tracks it was quick already, although not in my hands. Good idea I guess but one was the fastest car at Bathurst real 12 hour race last weekend in Australia - but its tyre were not as fresh as he winning Porsche. Bak to fantasy of this game - I think the Lancer, WRX and also I think two flavours of Peugeot upgraded - the little two door Peugeot could be fun at some tracks upgraded. In GR.4, I wish they'd have upgraded the racy Renault with all the downforce ground effect rear - it cannot beat the standard Renault which is a shame IMO.



Anyway I then checked my tyres for Sarthe and I have been using intermediate tyres - I thought they were a normal option, surely quicker than lousy hards. So maybe with dry weather hards I'll be a bit quicker. :dunce: Maybe have ago tonight.

The download took a long time and goodness knows why, it seems to have little data.
 
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The first period of extremely important exams is done with and it went awesome! :D Now to focus on the track :p

I just clocked a 3:23.313 in the 908 with lots of short shifting while waiting for race C. This is going to be interesting.
 
Rexracer702
I watched some of the top 10. Rediculous! I was going to try to get down into the 55's, but now
I don't know. I've been running wide on T1 because everyone racing was doing it, but staying on track otherwise. I'd like to get into the top 100, but I don't really want to get a time on the boards that skips the last 2 corners. The way I was running on the few laps I did, tonight is not the night for records.

@Pigems , I saw you knocked over a second off your early time. Any chance you're gonna post a vid ?
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Yeah man I saw you had me beat by 2 tenths, great work! I was playing with the track limits last night, so the 55.0 was an off track run, I wasn’t intending to run that way but I effed up at one point and kind did the first one by mistake and ended up with a 55.7 so I just ran with it after that. I can post a video but I basically skip the entire last two corners lol. I got one as low as 54.7 after banking the car off the end wall before the final corner like the top time but a penalty showed up right as I crossed the line, you have to stay off the track through the entire final stretch to keep the penaties off. :lol:
 
Pigems
Yeah man I saw you had me beat by 2 tenths, great work! I was playing with the track limits last night, so the 55.0 was an off track run, I wasn’t intending to run that way but I effed up at one point and kind did the first one by mistake and ended up with a 55.7 so I just ran with it after that. I can post a video but I basically skip the entire last two corners lol. I got one as low as 54.7 after banking the car off the end wall before the final corner like the top time but a penalty showed up right as I crossed the line, you have to stay off the track through the entire final stretch to keep the penaties off. :lol:
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I though that might be a "cheater" run. I wish I knew which runs were "clean", or at least clean other than T1. I know lester's is, so 54's are possible.
Edit: I think there's a "safety net" built into the code, so if you go really off track, through the grass, you don't get a penalty when you get back on. It's happened to me after T1 after I get sideways and shoot off the right side of the track, even bouncing off the wall, no penalty...no time advantage there, though.
 
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sturk0167
It's really inconsistent. I tried to replicate the lap that the number 1 guy did. All kinds of penalty time. Then I tried to run it clean. Still got penalties. Worst track limits ever.

@Sven Jurgens are you pitting?
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No, I'm just slow :lol: No clue what I'm doing wrong yet A+ drivers can get the TS050 down to 2:26 for best lap, my best in 2:30 once. I tried to watch a replay yet due to lag it was impossible to make much sense out of it, except that I shouldn't stay inside the lines at all times.

Of course you can't trust the fastest lap times on Sarthe as penalties don't count towards the time. You could simply skip the final 2 chicanes to get the fastest lap and worry about the penalty the next lap :/
 
The lack of proper track limits in the daily races are appalling. Any deviations should be met with a stiff penalty in my opinion. While Fuji isn't too bad, the idiots who run way wide at the final corner ruin it for everyone. Especially when they show no consideration when re-entering the track. Too many trying to chase fast laps rather than do some actual racing. I'm trying to get my ratings up so generally follow it by the letter. I struggled last night at Fuji, my 1.42.1 put me on pole on about 4 occasions and I never managed to win any of them. While good in the bends, the WRX gets murdered down the straight. I'm new to using a wheel though, before I was D-Pad since 1997.
 
Sven Jurgens
No, I'm just slow :lol: No clue what I'm doing wrong yet A+ drivers can get the TS050 down to 2:26 for best lap, my best in 2:30 once. I tried to watch a replay yet due to lag it was impossible to make much sense out of it, except that I shouldn't stay inside the lines at all times.

Of course you can't trust the fastest lap times on Sarthe as penalties don't count towards the time. You could simply skip the final 2 chicanes to get the fastest lap and worry about the penalty the next lap :/
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I'll be seeing you out there, today. đź‘Ť First, I'm gonna create a custom race, duplicating the race C settings, to find out how to fuel map the LM55 for a no-stopper. I don't want to run of of fuel in the race, while experimenting. :lol:
 
PLease Help with SR loss in Race C !!!
I'm trying my best to avoid contact, but still down from 99 to 64.
I try to take it slow, not bumping into cars in front of me, but this just leads to me getting bumped into...
It is really hard to say if the other guys are just idiots or if it is the lag or just the nature of the game.

Getting critical again as in SR B I will likely meet even worse drivers...
WHAT Do I DO (other than NOT racing, which is not an option, because I like the track)
 
Make sure radar is on, and watch for divebombers, also I have been using the Toyota and no stopping which usually gets me out of traffic if most other cars are pitting. Of course getting a good grid start position is very helpful only the top 3 cars or so get a reasonable start, autodrive has dropped me mid chicane far too many times..
 
Race report for my 34th and best win ever! :cheers:

Starting 3rd in the 908 behind an R18 and LM55, both rated A. S driver in the TS050 behind me. The R18 shoots away from us at the start and the TS050 comes up to my bumper. I get a 0.4s penalty for going a bit wide at Dunlop. I pull away from the TS050 on the straight and the R18 misses the braking point, causing the LM55 to catch up and make contact. I get by the R18 and give chase to the LM55. I eventually overtake him on the outside through the right hander before Indianapolis. He's a bit poor through Indianapolis and Arnage, so I've already got 0.7s on him coming into the Porsche Curves. Meanwhile, the TS050 goes into the sand. I'm leading the LM55 by 0.8s at the end of lap 1.

Lap 2 is pretty uneventful as the LM55 and R18 battle for 2nd. I start getting excited, since the fact that they're battling means I can pull away from them. I put in a laptime of 3:25.635 and extend my lead to 2.1s to the Audi, who overtakes the Mazda on the line. And my excitement is gone in an instant, because I know from previous races (and the fact that his Q time was a 3:20 :p) that he's faster than me and he's going to catch up. Sure enough, he clocks a 3:24.373 :eek: on lap 3 with worn tires and my lead is reduced to 4 tenths! :scared:

The LM55 has fallen to 2.6s behind me, so now it's between myself and the R18. He gives me a nice friendly tap on the rear bumper as we come out of Dunlop. By Mulsanne I've only gained half a second and losing control on the exit certainly doesn't help :nervous: He gets alongside and briefly passes me coming out of Arnage, but I reclaim the lead. We stay very close throughout the final sector and finish the lap just 0.036s apart!

His acceleration allows him to pass me once again for a couple of seconds on the S/F straight. I give in and let him by at Dunlop. He's 2 tenths in front of me before Tertre Rouge and I go past the blue area, adding 0.8s to my penalty from lap 1 :ouch: Now is not the time for this! I realize that I can't afford to postpone the penalty until the line and I certainly can't finish without serving it, so after passing him with ease in the first section of the straight I choose to gradually scrub it off in the three braking zones. He catches right up to my bumper after each chicane and even gets alongside after Mulsanne, doesn't manage to pass though. Another friendly tap coming out of Arnage, I'm a bit faster through the Porsche Curves but sloppy at the Ford Chicanes, he's really close coming out of the last corner, we both gun it, he oversteers a little and...

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0.184s at the line! :D I wasn't even looking at the fuel during the second half of lap 5, turns out I only had 1% left! Race time 17:18.

I did two more races and came 2nd and 3rd before that, so my DR rose even more to 43323! :cheers:
 
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NevilleNobody
Got the kids in bed last night, pouring a drink for my nightly session and ..... wife wants "to talk". Wants to renovate the house, I want to move, been at a stand off for a while. Lost the night.

Bugger.
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You should do both.

Your renovation budget should not exceed the highest market value for similar homes in the area or else you'll over build and price yourself out of the market with no way to recoup costs. If her desired renovations exceed the value of your market then you should move and only renovate up to your market budget selling the previous home at it's highest value.

Just my ten cents. I'm in a somewhat similar situation.
 
Had a really good morning of racing. Did 5 A races starting top 3 in each with one pole and one fastest lap even. Held or improved my position to podium in all of them. I still do not like this car or the way your allowed to run this track, but i am clearly starting to click with it. I trimmed my qualy time down to 56.163 with only running wide on turn 1, i refuse to allow myself to do the last 2 corners like the top 10.
 
BallPtPenTheif
You should do both.

Your renovation budget should not exceed the highest market value for similar homes in the area or else you'll over build and price yourself out of the market with no way to recoup costs. If her desired renovations exceed the value of your market then you should move and only renovate up to your market budget selling the previous home at it's highest value.

Just my ten cents. I'm in a somewhat similar situation.
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Likely what we are going to do, problem is our house is nice but not modern and she wants to modernise. A lot of the $$$ is just repairs, leaky basement, new windows etc, will limit the damage and look to move in the future. By not moving it also keeps enough spare money to search for a 911 vert too .... :)
 
sturk0167
I'll be seeing you out there, today. đź‘Ť First, I'm gonna create a custom race, duplicating the race C settings, to find out how to fuel map the LM55 for a no-stopper. I don't want to run of of fuel in the race, while experimenting. :lol:
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I pegged the Mazda as only making 4.0 laps on one tank.

The 908 HDi at 4.4 laps requires half FM2 half FM3.
The R92CP at 4.3 laps requires FM2 on the straight, FM3 everywhere else to make it.
The Audi R18 '16 at 4.2 laps requires FM3 all the way.

I have not tried a no stop in the Mazda yet, however a mix of FM3 and FM4 will be necessary, making the thing kinda useless :/

Drat, I forgot about the update. I wanted to enter the 11:30 race, the download only took 20 seconds, now it has to copy the whole application again :/ 10% and counting, 3 minutes left :banghead: 25% copied race entry closes, piece of crap.


nuu1212
PLease Help with SR loss in Race C !!!
I'm trying my best to avoid contact, but still down from 99 to 64.
I try to take it slow, not bumping into cars in front of me, but this just leads to me getting bumped into...
It is really hard to say if the other guys are just idiots or if it is the lag or just the nature of the game.

Getting critical again as in SR B I will likely meet even worse drivers...
WHAT Do I DO (other than NOT racing, which is not an option, because I like the track)
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I would love the challenge lol. TS050 is a good tool, you can brake very late, good acceleration not to get hit at corner exit and no need to pit. It's slow on the straight, watch for traffic coming up from behind.

What you need to do when you get hit is to go off track or take a short cut so you don't get the blame. Good luck!
 
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Sven Jurgens
I have not tried a no stop in the Mazda yet, however a mix of FM3 and FM4 will be necessary, making the thing kinda useless :/
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You definitely know your stuff. I just finished my no-stop LM55 test. I had to do about half the race in fm3, and half in fm4. đź‘Ť
The time wasn't very good. 18:04.
Now I'm gonna try it in fm1, with a fuel stop, and see if it's faster, overall.
 
sturk0167
You definitely know your stuff. I just finished my no-stop LM55 test. I had to do about half the race in fm3, and half in fm4. đź‘Ť
The time wasn't very good. 18:04.
Now I'm gonna try it in fm1, with a fuel stop, and see if it's faster, overall.
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I'll try it in a race, got to check if anything has changed about the pit times with the update.
 
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