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totally agree.but with sports tyres is a joke anyways.at least if they put racing meds or soft.
I've noticed the matchmaking for the Ring is not great either. Has a tendency to find someone far superior than the other drivers and doesn't result in competitive races.
 
I really don't understand Nurburgring in Porsche 911s as a race.

Great track to drive. I love it. But as a track to race on it's rubbish.

Too narrow and decided on a mistake rather than an superb overtake.
Not being morbid(Sean Edwards died in a car crash a couple years after this video), but it's a thing. I was hoping for tuning and it should be on RH tyres.
Imagine 99 drivers plus you.
 
Great track to drive. I love it. But as a track to race on it's rubbish.

Too narrow and decided on a mistake rather than an superb overtake.

The width of the track and potential for passing has never been an issue for me on that track. Play a custom race on it sometime, and you'll find it's easy to move from 20th to 1st with a clean rating.

The problem comes from other drivers trying to weave block or goof around on a track with little margin for error. I know none of that opinion makes the course easier to deal with in an online race but I think it's unfair to characterize the course as being the sole problem there.
 
This behaviour can happen a lot when one of the front, really quick drivers goes off for whatever reason. Coming through the pack they have little patience for slower drivers, that's not their race if you see what I mean? I'm not condoning it, but usually its obvious who they are, they're either a known name that I've seen at the top or they so obviously catch me up that quite honestly, I give them room and don't challenge it. The other option is to get passed and lose SR too.

I totally understand that, and I've seen it plenty. In fact I've been on both ends of that, giving and receiving. I'm relatively fast, but not alien-fast, so I'm usually faster than at least half the people in any race, but there's almost always 2 or 3 in the front that I can't catch at this level (A to A+). I've been aggressively pushed off course by some fast guys desperately trying to gain positions, even when I wasn't defending very hard. I've also been that guy, started pole or top 3 and get punted immediately. I try to be patient when passing others on the way back up, but the problem arises when those guys don't want to concede the position by any means necessary, even if they are clearly much slower and have less control over their car. There was a guy yesterday who was a couple seconds per lap slower than me, and at first he was defending fine, but after 1 lap he was weaving and blocking at every chance, slowing us both down and eventually I accidentally ran into him on the inside when trying to overtake, because he was moving erratically and unpredictably. I apologized but he still called me dirty. Stuff happens, and it's hard to have a clean race with drivers of all different skill levels, so I sympathize, but it's still frustrating.
 
I usually experience the same thing. A/S lobbies can be clean, but when they are dirty it's a unique variety of dirty that you don't usually see in B/S lobbies. These people can be fast, and they seem desperate for that A or A+ ranking and will pass you by any means possible and try to make up penalties later. Especially at tracks like Brands where there are very few good overtaking opportunities. Trying to avoid a wreck? Who cares, get outta my way...seems to be the mentality.

The first race I was in with you I got punted on T1 of Lap1 and afterward the guy said I was "to slow." Well, since it was T1 with a huge sand pit to the left I figured braking early to avoid punting everyone else in front of me would be smart, since literally everybody took that turn slower than qualy-pace. Nope, he punts me and doesn't even have the decency to apologize or even acknowledge it other than to say over and over again that I was "to slow" even though I qualified ahead of him. I didn't have the heart to tell him how to correctly spell "too." Considering the fact that he had a Confederate flag on his livery, he's probably already a little slow (mentally) and in denial that his flag is for racists and losers, and wouldn't understand the concept of good racecraft anyway. I watched him and 2 other people consistently punt people and barge past them over and over again in my replays, somehow they managed to stay in the 90-99 SR lobbies most of the time, which shows us how broken the SR system can be.

SR was rather broken on Brand's hatch, way too forgiving and a 3 sec penalty means nothing when the other car is spun around in the sand trap. On Nordschleife it's the opposite in regards to SR budget. Two taps from behind resulting in SR Down (the car getting hit from behind still gets penalized for it) means a neutral rating. Get hit once from behind and the car hitting you goes off and you have a red rating. Basically, if someone hits you from behind, tap a wall / don't try to stay on the road, as then the car hitting you will get the penalty instead of you receiving SR Down. You've got to cry foul to the 'referee' or see your SR tank and clean race bonus taken away. Plus it's still better to hit a car than to avoid as a wall tap is 5 sec vs a 1 to 3 sec penalty for hitting a car while gaining a position...

The penalty system is still unpredictable now and then. I build up a clean streak of 3 which then got reset by this:
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I get punted into a short cut, 0.5 sec penalty, clean bonus gone. Car behind didn't get anything for that, yet I guess he helped me pass the other car :/

So far racing is rather sloppy on Nord. Perhaps the small SR budget will help filter the clean and patient from the aggressive barge passers. Plenty red every race. I got down to just below 90 from a disconnect and getting hit from behind by a car going off. It took 4 races to get back to 99.

The Porsche is however tons of fun to drive. I never had this much fun on sports tires. No more easy corners, driving on the edge, nailing the corners feels very rewarding. Great fun working that Porsche through traffic. I don't think I'll try Fuji at all at this rate. Nord is too much fun and from what I've seen of Fuji in GT League, it still does not appeal to me. Way too wide for my liking.

Matchmaking sucked at lunch time as usual.
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Hardly anyone bothered to qualify yet and the game didn't even bother to sort the entries correctly on the right grid. No full rooms either.

Anyway, I'll be on the Nord. Way much more fun to drive than 13 laps on Fuji.
 
What a dire set of races for this week.

A realisation that I don't own a Gr.2 car, and have never been gifted one in all these month playing since launch.

Can't they extend the amount of races to at least 6 per week instead of 3...
 
If PD just duped the 991 and called it the 997 it could've fooled me. But it is a lot of fun to throw around the Nurburgring. Hopefully the start of many sport mode races using sports tyres.
 
I have to share this clip just for the thud sound:



As for blame, he forced me over to the right side of the track coming out the corner then blindly assumed everybody wanted to pit just because he did whilst never actually being fully ahead. A 3 second penalty is a bit unfair but it didn't change the race results so I won't moan.
 
Edit2: So, this is what 7:10am looks like
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Pretty sure this is due to a combination of the Ready screen disconnect and the PS server issues everyone was having this morning. The lobby would populate varying Safety rating drivers before letting a race go with only 4 people
 
I had a race with only 9 people just now while it should be busy on the NA servers. And the race I just tried to do disconnected me old school style (NE error) while waiting for other players. That's the second disconnect already today and I'm still restarting the game every other race.
 
...but first: incompetent developers; another sketch track published before worked on properly, being ready - thus ruining proper racing.
I'm keeping on reading here sometimes, hoping that things have to get better sooner or later, but this title is till slipping down. I'm sad. I liked it.
I know it's PD's mistake that this is happening. But does that give the degenerates any excuse to be, well, degenerates? No. They're not any better than the developers that allow this to happen in the first place.
 
I'm completely unsurprised about track limit exploits at Fuji after seeing what happened at Red Bull Ring. 100% PDs fault to fix.

The width of the track and potential for passing has never been an issue for me on that track. Play a custom race on it sometime, and you'll find it's easy to move from 20th to 1st with a clean rating.

The problem comes from other drivers trying to weave block or goof around on a track with little margin for error. I know none of that opinion makes the course easier to deal with in an online race but I think it's unfair to characterize the course as being the sole problem there.

I'm not sure participating in a custom race qualifies as racing.
 
I have to share this clip just for the thud sound:



As for blame, he forced me over to the right side of the track coming out the corner then blindly assumed everybody wanted to pit just because he did whilst never actually being fully ahead. A 3 second penalty is a bit unfair but it didn't change the race results so I won't moan.


:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Nobody can put that sin on you. I don't know what kind of moron tries to cut someone off to go into a pit. All he had to do was lift for a moment and you would have passed him. That was awesome.

I'm not sure participating in a custom race qualifies as racing.

Take it up with PD, I didn't name the feature.
 
I had a lot of fun with the latest selection of Daily Races; the most I've had for a while actually. Race C was strange because there were drivers with an S, an A or a B SR rank. I started second behind an NSX, but couldn't get past him due to his sheer pace. I was 6 seconds behind at the end, but 3rd was about 28 seconds behind me.

Race B was a bit more heated, and I started third. The two guys who started in front were squabbling whilst I had to keep a Japanese player at bay. I went of at Schwiedenkrueze (is that right?) and I almost blew a chance at the podium. The leader made a mistake further up the road and dropped to second. I stuck with him until he went off again, and got to second place. Yet it wasn't over. I was being hounded coming out of the Carussel and I had to keep my line to make sure he didn't slip by. However, he went off again and I placed second

Chose the Corvette for Race A. Didn't get off to a great start and got bashed by a few drivers, but I managed to stay in contention for a podium. I was in 9th at one point. But through skill and a bit of luck, I got to fourth. I got past a Lamborghini for third, but he stuck with me right until the line. I only beat him by about 0.05 seconds. The Corvette was just able to keep in front.
 
Messed up a 2nd place by overshooting T1 on the last lap.
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Two TTS and a Huracan were ahead at the start. I picked the GT-R for its exit speed. Figured the TT and Huracan would leave me for dead. Not so.

Getting close on exit, helps with the tow. I was able to keep up and got ahead with good car placement for the exit, while the TT torque steers wide.

Anyway, the TT took the spot back and blocked a bit. I got a good exit on the final turn, drafted the TT up pit entrance and chose the inside line all the way down the straight. Misjudged the braking point at the pit exit line and went straight off. Lost two spots, gained my time back and just stuck to rear of the Huracan for rest of the lap, to the finish.
 
Anybody get the DISCONNECTION message often? Yesterday and today 4 times just disconnected. I have a reasonable reliable internet. Anyone?
 
Got disconnecting just then. Been in GT League Professional about to hit 15mil. Spread my wins between DT: Seaside, Gr. 1 & F1 at Fuji. Way more fun than "the triangle".
 
RACE B
8:01 only 30 seconds slower than the fastest.. hahahaha anyway, my climb has started up the DR mountain, such a great track. But for a track where overtaking is supposed to be impossible everyone still tries to bully their way through. QUALIFY or get out!
 
I totally understand that, and I've seen it plenty. In fact I've been on both ends of that, giving and receiving. I'm relatively fast, but not alien-fast, so I'm usually faster than at least half the people in any race, but there's almost always 2 or 3 in the front that I can't catch at this level (A to A+). I've been aggressively pushed off course by some fast guys desperately trying to gain positions, even when I wasn't defending very hard. I've also been that guy, started pole or top 3 and get punted immediately. I try to be patient when passing others on the way back up, but the problem arises when those guys don't want to concede the position by any means necessary, even if they are clearly much slower and have less control over their car. There was a guy yesterday who was a couple seconds per lap slower than me, and at first he was defending fine, but after 1 lap he was weaving and blocking at every chance, slowing us both down and eventually I accidentally ran into him on the inside when trying to overtake, because he was moving erratically and unpredictably. I apologized but he still called me dirty. Stuff happens, and it's hard to have a clean race with drivers of all different skill levels, so I sympathize, but it's still frustrating.
I was that guy and I watched the replay and could see why you were frustrated with. I was having a frustrating race also. I started 7th in that race got bump passed once and got passed again when I rear ended someone who had hit someone else. In the replay I can see that I'm trying to use the entire track to my advantage and it may have looked like weaving to you. But Brands is all corners and I did not weave to block you on the a straight. I was trying to find a place to let you past without loosing more positions. You sliced past Sven and Onenastyguy. I could see you were faster. Then you nudged my back left corner while I was on the edge of traction and I did a 180.
 
Remember this post I made?
So Group 2 at Fuji next week is Race C? I was hoping for Group 3 since the M3 GT is "new" to the game, but some Super GT at one of Japan's go to racetracks sounds like a good idea.
Well turns out I was right in terms of myself. I LOVE RACE C! The fact it's on Fuji, it's with Super GT, and everything about it is amazing. I hope PD keeps up with a series of Race Cs similar to this.
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My tips on Nords and 997

Porsche is RR, so you have to coast and maintain a very good exit speed

Racing in Nords is waiting your opponent make some mistake and then pass

For such a long track, only few places overtake can happen

Early on, tires still cold, control is much important than speed
 
My tips on Nords and 997

Porsche is RR, so you have to coast and maintain a very good exit speed

Racing in Nords is waiting your opponent make some mistake and then pass

For such a long track, only few places overtake can happen

Early on, tires still cold, control is much important than speed

I did my qualify lap without TCS imagine my surprise when I started the race.. I was sliding around the track like I was drunk.. TCS enabled from there.
 
Now I've completely had enough of GTS - 2 race As, 67 SR points loss resulting in over 26000 point DR loss. The penalty system in this game is officially 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
 
Did Race A from the back to try get some SR back for Race B. I finished one up but I swear there were two cars behind me. I had a penalty which I had burned off, yet it still registered me finishing with a 2s penalty :crazy:.

I did get 3SR back at the cost of nearly 800 DR. Waiting for the midnight run at the Ring.
 
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