"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[KK78]

I'm taking a week off. Not a fan of racing on the ring, cannot memorise it so way too tentative.

Fuji is an abortion, too wide, no features, almost apex-less ... just dreadful.

no thanks.

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about Fuji, I really don't like it, it feels so counter-intuitive and the final 3rd just kills any flow- just a personal thing of course. (although having it twice for a whole week is a bit naff imo)

I do however love the Nordschleife but I just don't find it remotely as fun in road cars so it'll be another week with no online racing, bring back the dailies please PD, I do see the value in the weeklies but it has the major downside of potentially having to wait a week in the hope the selection will get better sometimes. I think the best balance would be 4 races, 2 dailies and 2 weeklies

 

[Invisigoth]

Slipstream can be dangerous, ppl behind another car think "oh my god look how fast I am.. that guy in front is so slow, I have to pass him, he is slowing me!" - while the guy in front is actually pulling him to be fast.

I'm not usually close enough to anyone to get a tow, but when it does happen, I'm acutely aware I'm going faster than I otherwise would. The thing usually running through my mind is "there's a corner coming up. Ohcrapohcrapohcrap... where do I bloody brake???!!!!" .

 

[JrDarknes]

Ive put a laptime on Fuji but have not done a race yet. The Nurburgring is so much fun man. Every race I'm in is so tense and competitive. I've gotten only one win so far. Hopefully try to get a second one before next week.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I'm not usually close enough to anyone to get a tow, but when it does happen, I'm acutely aware I'm going faster than I otherwise would. The thing usually running through my mind is "there's a corner coming up. Ohcrapohcrapohcrap... where do I bloody brake???!!!!" .

What drives me crazy is when people block the outside edge of the track thinking I'm getting one over on them. I already miss guessed my draft, missed my braking point, and I'm putting two wheels in the grass and running wide across the kerbing to not hit anyone... then the idiot in front will fade to the outside of his line to block me, getting punted off of the track. Is your line on the outer edge of the tarmac or the outer edge of the grass, because I can't tell when you're changing lanes into my late braking line.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

@GOTMAXPOWER That's definitely a barge pass, you have no significant overlap before turn in. That doesn't excuse his later behavior, take it outside! I bet it wasn't that funny for the other cars trying to race around you two :/ However funny to watch from a safe distance

It did end up being a barge pass but that wasn't the intention, coming out of turn 2 there was a car width to the right which I went for, with the speed advantage from the previous corner I would probably have been fully alongside by the next corner. If there had been contact at turn-in I would hold my hands up and accept the blame but there wasn't. If you watch the replay back (you can see it from the slow-mo better) he moved right way before the corner, the angle he turned at was going to put him 4 wheels off on the inside, it was a block rather than turning for the corner

Agree! The guy was taking on his line.
Slipstream can be dangerous, ppl behind another car think "oh my god look how fast I am.. that guy in front is so slow, I have to pass him, he is slowing me!" - while the guy in front is actually pulling him to be fast.

I'm not sure how this is related to slipstream, the guy ahead was slow because he had spun on the straight. As for taking his line I'm not sure, the turn in was so early. I think he was frustrated with what had happened the corner before so he threw a late block to not lose any more places.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I managed another unqualified win yesterday at lunch time

Great duel at end.

Racing at the Nord was a lot cleaner yesterday. The biggest trouble makers had already been shipped off and the rest didn't go off track as much anymore. My starting position even went down to 13th at prime time instead of the average 7th, more qualifiers.

I tried the car in VR at night in time trial with the same settings. I did the lap in 7:47, still got bored of driving alone after 3 laps despite it being excellent in VR. Now I could compare 2D to VR right after each other with the same car and track, I noticed I get less sense of speed in VR. The whole experience is dampened a bit in VR, the track feels a lot smoother, more tgv than race car. It's easier to aim for the apex, better positional awareness, yet harder to judge speed. 270 kph doesn't feel like I'm going that fast. It's likely due to the fov difference. The road seems less wide and distances less far in VR, which also makes the corners appear sharper and the height differences are more pronounced. VR is probably right as the carousel actually looks like a U-Turn in VR.

Of course with the low fidelity and still not very realistic graphics it's hard to properly judge the size of things, which is how your brain interprets world scale. Stereoscopic depth doesn't do much beyond a few meters, the rest all relies on relating size to actual real world objects. That should get better as VR matures. For now, it completely lacks the thrill of racing, no opponents. Back to sport mode.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

It did end up being a barge pass but that wasn't the intention, coming out of turn 2 there was a car width to the right which I went for, with the speed advantage from the previous corner I would probably have been fully alongside by the next corner. If there had been contact at turn-in I would hold my hands up and accept the blame but there wasn't. If you watch the replay back (you can see it from the slow-mo better) he moved right way before the corner, the angle he turned at was going to put him 4 wheels off on the inside, it was a block rather than turning for the corner

It's hard to tell with the inconsistent track limits of GTS which puts the placement of the apex up for debate

That's not an unreasonable angle to keep 2 wheels on the white line while using the green as 'track'

It would have been smarter to go around the outside as the next turn is a left hander. However taking the apex that early does look more like a block than good cornering. Still he had corner rights at that point and getting alongside after corner entry is not the best way to go. It's not clear cut, he could have left room for you or block sooner. You didn't need to make an aggressive or cheeky move in lap 2 either. You saw what it can lead to 60/40 fault, up for debate who gets the 60 and who gets the 40. Err on the safe side and go around instead of, in PD's words. both looking bad.

 

[05XR8]

Yeah, Race A. I'm getting tapped by cars and getting the penalty. Just rude.

 

[WheelmanSteve]

Is it possible to have that "S" ranking without A+ level? So many unskilled drivers with that "S" that I started to wonder...

Do you got some sort of bonus of taking it?

You understand that a lot of us are clean and courteous racers, just not as fast? I've been SR S about 99% of my GTS "career", but struggle to get out of DR C. You race me clean, I'll let you by.

 

[stpatty]

Just got my 91st Sport win at the Nordschleife. So happy.

 

[Epic B]

So I did the GR.2 race (with a surprise appearance by @Naveek Darkroom) and this one guy has abit of an issue with me:

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What's his problem? Apparently this:



Now sure I've gotten abit far on track limits, but I did that as I was anticipating him to spawn back only for him to spin himself out. Apparently, that's enough for me to be an "Idiot" despite making no contact (while this is also the same guy that enters back on track in a move to seemingly take me out earlier in the race. Funny that..

Funny seeing another GTP member in the same Sport lobby. I had actually made it up to 4th or 5th on that race but I think someone knocked me off at some point. I dot know if it was that driver. I couldn't get a handle on the GT-R around Fuji. Maybe I'll give the RC F a spin again.

 

[05XR8]

Not a happy 4th as I was rer ended by an outbroaking Lambo in 4th. I'm running 2nd on the last lap and a fellow GT-R got the tow and was braking up the inside T1.
Watching the replay, the Lambo had plenty of time to brake, I was late on the brakes and planning to go two wide. Not to be as I can hear the played trying to slow and shift faster, to grab 1st gear and not hit me. After I went off, the player just crawled to serve the penalty.

 

[Darwock]

Not a happy 4th as I was rer ended by an outbroaking Lambo in 4th. I'm running 2nd on the last lap and a fellow GT-R got the tow and was braking up the inside T1

I met you in one of my races last night, but it wasn't this one. Race C. The first planeteer I've ever come across online - seems like a rare thing on the Asian server. Our paths never crossed on track (thankfully, or I might have to be making apologies).

I improved my NSX qually time with a switch to the GT-R, but it didn't come easy so I think my average lap time was actually slower. Nevertheless I was placed 10th in the first race, made it to 6th but unforced errors meant I finished 9th. Second race I was placed 4th and ran in 3rd until I put two wheels off track halfway through the complex and spun out on lap 1. Recovered for a 6th place finish.

My DR for the day increased by 900 points or so. It's odd because similar performances on previous days cost me 2000 points.

I need to figure out how to consistently take the last corner, I nearly always lose time on the straight.

 

[Bobert power]

I've just been using the Lexus in the two races I've done. Have yet to try out the NSX or GT-R, but I feel that the Lexus might be the best Fuel wise going off prior experience with all three.

From what I know, the Lexus is good with fuel, the Honda is good for speed(?), and the Nissan is good for aero/grip or speed(?). I personally use the Nissan because I have a bias for Nissan and their past in motor racing. Gr. 2 is probably the most balanced group in the game so it's a go with your gut kind of deal.

 

[Darwock]

I'm so happy that we have the weekly changes now, it makes such a difference to have enough breathing room to try out different cars over multiple sessions. And if it isn't working out you can switch to try the other races. I love it.

 

[Hoof Arted]

So, as a lower DR rank, you also gain much more on them in points? If they became S in that way, i mean.

The DR-S rank is just a label; the game should use the driver's actual DR value, strength of field etc when calculating +/- DR changes after a race. (That's my understanding anyway).

 

[05XR8]

I met you in one of my races last night, but it wasn't this one. Race C. The first planeteer I've ever come across online - seems like a rare thing on the Asian server. Our paths never crossed on track (thankfully, or I might have to be making apologies).

I improved my NSX qually time with a switch to the GT-R, but it didn't come easy so I think my average lap time was actually slower. Nevertheless I was placed 10th in the first race, made it to 6th but unforced errors meant I finished 9th. Second race I was placed 4th and ran in 3rd until I put two wheels off track halfway through the complex and spun out on lap 1. Recovered for a 6th place finish.

My DR for the day increased by 900 points or so. It's odd because similar performances on previous days cost me 2000 points.

I need to figure out how to consistently take the last corner, I nearly always lose time on the straight.

Cool.
I was sliding a bit in the NSX. also had a battle with another NSX, GT-R and RC F. Was getting dive bombed out of position. So, I served them back. Think I finished 14th or 12th.

Missed qualy as started from last. Not as enjoyable as I felt it should be.

 

[azrilnazli]

Yey, my first A

 

[MhtyClipster]

Not gaining much DR of late, just a quick question regarding race A mainly, I have been getting matched with all DR C drivers can I still get up to B racing only C's? I don't seem to get many points, made me wonder.
I guess you can but slower than if you get a mixed field, I just entered a race C now instead and the DR ranks go from E to A where as when I was doing race A I was getting a field of all C ranks only.

 

[GA 52]

Is there anyway to see how many are racing daily this week? I feel very few and believe that causes the big mixes....

 

[MhtyClipster]

The numbers are up a little if anything see here:
http://www.kudosprime.com/gts/stats.php?stat_preset=daily_sport_activity
Guess the numbers during the day time will always be lower than evenings though.

 

[BallPtPenTheif]

I had a fun race yesterday on the Ring sharing the grid with Sven even though I never even got close enough to see the rear of his car. My qualifying time for the course was a really weak 8:09 which put me in 8th place. It was surprising though, how so many people with better times would simply lose it and go off of the track.

One kook at the beginning of the race dive bombed and slammed his way from 9th to 7th just in the early complex of turns (Hatzenbach) while we were still densely packed. It was absurd to get -SR warnings from this idiot ramming me while I'm trying to keep reasonable space from the car in front. As expected, I caught up to him and passed him as he went wide and slammed into the guard rail after failing to feather the brake into Quiddlebacher. My next passes were simply off of driver errors at Aremburg and another corner I can't remember. Ultimately I just ended up staying on the track and scavenging positions, which allowed me to move up to 5th place.

That Porsche on the Ring was amazingly fun. It sort of reminded me of using the RUF on the Ring in Turismo 6, but without all of the crazy whip back from the rear.

 

[Jayceon47]

I'm new here so I'll just get into it.
Race A.

How does one avoid getting barged on the straight? One tried forcing me into the pit and we touched and I'm the only one who got the penalty.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Not gaining much DR of late, just a quick question regarding race A mainly, I have been getting matched with all DR C drivers can I still get up to B racing only C's? I don't seem to get many points, made me wonder.
I guess you can but slower than if you get a mixed field, I just entered a race C now instead and the DR ranks go from E to A where as when I was doing race A I was getting a field of all C ranks only.

Yes you can even get to A racing only C's, you just have to place higher to keep getting points.

You get 80 points for every driver you finish ahead of, minus your DR difference / 500. (or plus the difference / 500 if their DR is higher)
If everyone is DR.C in the room the points range from 68 to 92 per driver. +68 if you are almost 10k DR while beating a 4K DR player, yet loss of 92 if you get beat by a 4k DR player.

A mixed field is always better as losing from A or A+ costs you far less points. And if a higher DR player crashes you can get up to 160 points from them.

In race A you can beat 11 players max. If all DR.C your gains should still be 748 at least. (if all stay connected)

 

[Silver_Wolf]

Yes you can even get to A racing only C's, you just have to place higher to keep getting points.

You get 80 points for every driver you finish ahead of, minus your DR difference / 500. (or plus the difference / 500 if their DR is higher)
If everyone is DR.C in the room the points range from 68 to 92 per driver. +68 if you are almost 10k DR while beating a 4K DR player, yet loss of 92 if you get beat by a 4k DR player.

A mixed field is always better as losing from A or A+ costs you far less points. And if a higher DR player crashes you can get up to 160 points from them.

In race A you can beat 11 players max. If all DR.C your gains should still be 748 at least. (if all stay connected)

You're response came at a good time as I am currently mulling over my current "problemo".

Back on 1 DR point (yes lowest possible number) but I am not having much success with starting from the back in gaining DR as the drivers in
the races are not making mistakes so any pointers for how I can try to climb back the ladder?

Hoping I have some better luck tonight in the races but a teensy frustrated with the game at the moment!

 

[Invisigoth]

Back on 1 DR point (yes lowest possible number) but I am not having much success with starting from the back in gaining DR as the drivers in the races are not making mistakes so any pointers for how I can try to climb back the ladder?

I believe the standard response is "Get gud" I spent 30 or my first 50 days of racing on DR 1 ( which is whey when I get back to my home at DR/D my reports end with "another day above DR 1 ). It really comes down to luck and qualifying. You need to qualify if you want to start high enough up the board to give you room to get bashed, smashed and knocked about to not fall too far back. You need luck with matching to get into a race with similar DR to you. My experience is that matching generally seems to be better when you are on SR 99. You are already on DR 1, so you can't get any lower, so maybe focus on re-gaining SR to max. 👍

Well I just finished my first Race C at Fuji. My qualifying time, which was crap, had me starting P15/17 in a grid of mostly DR/A and B. I saw @brianloch in my race and wished him luck. With me on the grid, his luck ran out .

I was all snug at the back and instead of having radar, it showed the track section. I was pressing the wrong buttons to try getting it right, missed the auto drive cut and was bouncing of the rev limiter in 2nd and still trying to get my view back to chase and the radar up, so back into last place for me !

Even though I'd done laps qualifying, I was still so lost on that track (despite having done 228 laps of the darn thing on GT4!) I spent the race short shifting to conserve fuel. This meant that I got ahead of a few people when they pitted. Sadly, brian was one of them. Whilst trying to navigate the track I spun him out and ruined his race. Sorry brian . I finished last, but with 3 people not finishing, that was 1 position up from my start.

The damage? SR went from 85 to 93. DR dropped about 350. Day 7 visiting DR/C.

 

[ShiftingGears]

16 wins on race B in SR:S, but more people are starting to string together good qualifying times and stay on the road.

 

[MhtyClipster]

I lost too many points from quitting races I think, lost my patience when in races with idiots and this cost my DR and SR. My own fault mainly I should have just dropped back and kept circulating as the SR lose would have been a lot less, was back to SR S yesterday after the FIA races and even managed to bag a fifth place in one, last at Miyabi after picking up damage. Am not a big fan of heavy damage and hope it doesn't get added to the dailies.

Jayceon47 your best bet is to just ignore the offender or brake a little as one place isn't worth it as your SR goes up the racing should improve.

 

[Silver_Wolf]

I believe the standard response is "Get gud" I spent 30 or my first 50 days of racing on DR 1 ( which is whey when I get back to my home at DR/D my reports end with "another day above DR 1 ). It really comes down to luck and qualifying. You need to qualify if you want to start high enough up the board to give you room to get bashed, smashed and knocked about to not fall too far back. You need luck with matching to get into a race with similar DR to you. My experience is that matching generally seems to be better when you are on SR 99. You are already on DR 1, so you can't get any lower, so maybe focus on re-gaining SR to max. 👍

SR is already on 97 so that's not too much of an issue so I guess it's as you say get gud time!

The problem is I'm having people with "shortcut" central times in my races and because I refuse to take the shortcuts my qualifying's
not good enough for Race A and C at least.

I suppose Race B is likely to get a good qualifying spot but then I run the risk of SR loss and I'm not too familiar with the new Porsche
yet for racing.

Determination is strong though so I shall have to try and press through the masses and see what recovery I can do!

 

[Invisigoth]

I lost too many points from quitting races I think, lost my patience when in races with idiots and this cost my DR and SR.

If ya wanna finish first, ya first have ta finish !