"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[ROCKET JOE]

Exactly! You either have to turn in quick, and hope they miss your rear corner, or go deep into the corner, and hope they shoot past on the inside and into the barrier!

Ah, BT, here we go again. You can not turn in quick with the RX-7 and going deep means a lot of time wasted.
So again, to me, it's a decision between "racing" and "playing the game". And that is something I really really struggle with !

 

[Invisigoth]

Just reread my post and it reads a bit high horse-ish when I really didn't mean it like that.

Elitist snob!

 

[Pigems]

I was just watching the top times for race B, they all seem to be using the Supra, but they’re all shifting up super early. As soon as the rpms start to show up above the gauges they shift up. I tried it in the Supra and it was slower then my time in the Porsche by a second. But why are they shifting up so early? To keep from spinning at high rpms, or to allow for more down shifts when slowing down? It seems to help in the weird middle section that seems to have no rhythm though, up and down shifting throughout that section seems to help to control speed better then just letting off. Maybe that’s it, I dunno lol. Best I can muster so far is 1:41.496, it’s still not good enough to go racing though. But I am improving in the track at least.

Edit: One more question, how does the chicane section after the first corner work with multiple cars on the track in a race? Do you take it single file at as high a speed as you do in QT’s and hope no one clips a wall Or do they all slow down more? I don’t wanna come barreling in there in my first race only to find out they all slow down more in an actual race.

 

[fastone371]

I don't understand why I get SR down for this, at least he got a penalty for it.

So not fair... And man am I struggling with getting my SR up lately... I keep ending up in situations like this, where someone else causes me to loose SR, I even once got a penalty for getting smashed off the road, and I 100% wasn't braking early.
I don't want to race at the end of the pack just to get my SR up, I want to at least also try and get a decent result, but some people just find it funny to annoy you while you have done nothing to harm them.
I also once rage quit a race, but that was because some

Spoiler: curseword

"grandmother penetrator with a giant dildo up his ..."

had managed to push me into the pitstop and for what good, he crashed against the guardrails between the pits and the track... too bad I didn't make a video of that, because that was crazy. [Edit: Wait a minute, I did make a video of that just hadn't trimmed it jet, be right back]

How did the Flashyman (white car) cause this crash? He took a decent line thru the corner, it was the black ghosting car that caused that crash by crossing from left side of track to right side then back to left side again. Flashy probably should have been way clear of that accident but PD screwed with physics and cars do not lose nearly enough time for going off course.

 

[fastone371]

I often wonder what other racers think of the close racing they watch on YT that's super clean and close. Do they think you just drive round and do what you want and that it just works out that way?

As you know, it doesn't. You have to have eyes in the back of your head, predict other peoples movements to minimise risk, predict people making mistakes. It is NOT as easy as just driving round fast. Some times it's the second or third race against the same people that gets close because you build up trust in the people you race.

Racing close and clean is hard work. It may look easy to some, but it isn't. If you're in lower ranked lobbies, people are even more unpredictable because they are not consistent, so even more care is needed.

I'm replying to you, but none of this is applicable to you lol.

@Kalder This was meant for you really. You have to second guess everything that is going on. Don't just presume you are in the right, or that someone else should avoid something. Look out for yourself.

Of course they think it just happens to work out that way. Nobody can drive a couple of laps around other cars while following the racing line says the guy who drive with the music turned all way up so he cant hear what his car is doing, cant hear other cars nearby, drives with his TCS display on instead of radar in a no rear view mirror driving cam, and doesnt bother to qualify for races, just turns the PS4 on and enters sport mode races with an unfamiliar car on an unfamiliar track. I think that fairly describes a large portion of sport mode racers, you sort of get an understanding while watching replays and noticing they have TCS on, ASM on, and CSA on and still spend half of the corners in the sand unless they can hit a car on their way offtrack which then deflects back on track again.

 

[Saur]

I was just watching the top times for race B, they all seem to be using the Supra, but they’re all shifting up super early. As soon as the rpms start to show up above the gauges they shift up. I tried it in the Supra and it was slower then my time in the Porsche by a second. But why are they shifting up so early? To keep from spinning at high rpms, or to allow for more down shifts when slowing down? It seems to help in the weird middle section that seems to have no rhythm though, up and down shifting throughout that section seems to help to control speed better then just letting off. Maybe that’s it, I dunno lol. Best I can muster so far is 1:41.496, it’s still not good enough to go racing though. But I am improving in the track at least.

Edit: One more question, how does the chicane section after the first corner work with multiple cars on the track in a race? Do you take it single file at as high a speed as you do in QT’s and hope no one clips a wall Or do they all slow down more? I don’t wanna come barreling in there in my first race only to find out they all slow down more in an actual race.

There’s a good chance they’re doing it because the car produces it’s peak power at lower rpm’s and that’s when they shift, a lot of cars (like the 911) produce their peak power at higher rpm’s but some cars are different. I’ve been using the 911 so I haven’t checked out the Supra yet, I should have a look tomorrow.

As for the chicane, people who want to race clean will usually take it single file, it’s very risky to try and pass there and there can be some big crashes. People will usually take it slower in the race too, it’s less risky.

 

[Canada_25]

Just got a 16 seconds penalty for barely cutting a corner in race C. Seems fair.

 

[TetsuKobura]

I wonder if the top guys in C are using CSA. Managed to chip off 6 tenths and get a 2:56.7xx but still wonder how some are getting another 2 seconds off.


Also that penalty above was BS. I was behind when that happened.

 

[Veinz]

I wonder if the top guys in C are using CSA. Managed to chip off 6 tenths and get a 2:56.7xx but still wonder how some are getting another 2 seconds off.

Doubt it, CSA is not needed in this car. They are just cutting large parts of the track wherever they can. This track is so inconsistent with track limit penalties, it's laughable.

Just got a 16 seconds penalty for barely cutting a corner in race C. Seems fair.

Meanwhile you can butcher the first and last chicane with no penalty.

 

[Pigems]

There’s a good chance they’re doing it because the car produces it’s peak power at lower rpm’s and that’s when they shift, a lot of cars (like the 911) produce their peak power at higher rpm’s but some cars are different. I’ve been using the 911 so I haven’t checked out the Supra yet, I should have a look tomorrow.

As for the chicane, people who want to race clean will usually take it single file, it’s very risky to try and pass there and there can be some big crashes. People will usually take it slower in the race too, it’s less risky.

Thanks for the info, much appreciated Sir. I’m slowly improving with the Porsche, I think it’s gonna be my car for the week on this track, I’ve chipped it down to a 1:41.160 now with an Optimal(didn’t know that existed until tonight, thanks guys) time of 1:40.879 so I may actually be able to do a race tomorrow night without getting completely clobbered, Yay!

 

[Canada_25]

I wonder if the top guys in C are using CSA. Managed to chip off 6 tenths and get a 2:56.7xx but still wonder how some are getting another 2 seconds off.

Hey!! I'm 10th overall and no I'm not using driving aids except ABS. I don't know about the others...maybe they found parts of the track to cut that don't throw penalties...

 

[Saur]

Thanks for the info, much appreciated Sir. I’m slowly improving with the Porsche, I think it’s gonna be my car for the week on this track, I’ve chipped it down to a 1:41.160 now with an Optimal(didn’t know that existed until tonight, thanks guys) time of 1:40.879 so I may actually be able to do a race tomorrow night without getting completely clobbered, Yay!

There’s a lot of speed to be squeezed out of the Porsche, keep chipping away!

 

[TetsuKobura]

Finally...

 

[manion]

Doubt it, CSA is not needed in this car. They are just cutting large parts of the track wherever they can. This track is so inconsistent with track limit penalties, it's laughable.



Meanwhile you can butcher the first and last chicane with no penalty.

Pretty much only abs for me and im 4th in asia/pacific atm with a 2.54.9. Its really about finding which corners you can cut and how late on the brakes and early on the throttle you can get. Have brake bias set 3 to the front atm but havent really tested different settings.

Try cutting the final left of the porsche curves you get 25-30 seconds and terte rouge on the inside gets 15+

Edit: I actually think they have the track limits pretty close to what they are IRL in the 24hr, the track limits are treated more like guidelines in the actual race.

 

[bone_tone]

Ah, BT, here we go again. You can not turn in quick with the RX-7 and going deep means a lot of time wasted.
So again, to me, it's a decision between "racing" and "playing the game". And that is something I really really struggle with !

Yeah, but you only have to do it once - if they go off they rarely catch you up again!

 

[ROCKET JOE]

Yeah, but you only have to do it once - if they go off they rarely catch you up again!

You're a master of positive thinking 👍 !

 

[GA 52]

Spent another half hour going round the track with the Mustang and managed to improve to 1:39.686 - a little more respectful, just outside the top 200 in emea

Good stuff - going to try it out, see what time I can get down to..... my goal is no more that 2.5 sec. slower than you! Cheers

 

[Gravitron]

Had some fun racing way behind @Windfire1010 @Deafsun & @RuddRacer in their Race B room tonight. Mostly clean from everyone I was near in the 3 races I did. 👍

Got a bit unlucky with this unghosting though.

 

[bone_tone]

You're a master of positive thinking 👍 !

Have to be - race A is the only one I'm competitive at this week...

 

[Arcflyer]

Good stuff - going to try it out, see what time I can get down to..... my goal is no more that 2.5 sec. slower than you! Cheers

The replay is saved under my ps4 profile if you are interested in running with the Mustang

 

[yas]

Got a bit unlucky with this unghosting though.

Oh man, that one is frustrating - unghosted literally milliseconds befor fatdaddycrab torpedoed him...

 

[GA 52]

The replay is saved under my ps4 profile if you are interested in running with the Mustang

FAB - will watch tomorrow Arcflyer! Cheers. I made it within my goal!! 2.5sec behind! Yeehaa! Another car though...

 

[Cornaboyzzz]

Okay so I'm down to 1:05.0 in race A and 1:40.6 in race B, but I'm struggling to get consistent lap times, and I'm not having that much fun. I think I'll be waiting for next week's races.

 

[Pigems]

Anyone have a sub 2:40 time uploaded to on race B? I gotta find out where I’m losing all this time, I’m still 2 second outside the top 100 after 2 days of grinding. I’ll never compete in the A/A+ rooms being over 2:40. What’s the going race pace in those rooms?

 

[Vegard]

I was just watching the top times for race B, they all seem to be using the Supra, but they’re all shifting up super early. But why are they shifting up so early? To keep from spinning at high rpms, or to allow for more down shifts when slowing down?

It's because

the car produces it’s peak power at lower rpm’s

Peak power is produced at 6800 rpm. However, between 6000 and 7000 it puts out 99% of peak power so that's the range you want to keep it in for maximum acceleration. Going to 7200 or 7300 isn't going to cost you much but going all the way to 8000 will.

 

[Hasnain282]

Anyone have a sub 2:40 time uploaded to on race B? I gotta find out where I’m losing all this time, I’m still 2 second outside the top 100 after 2 days of grinding. I’ll never compete in the A/A+ rooms being over 2:40. What’s the going race pace in those rooms?

The top 10 times usually have their replays saved, so you should be able to watch from the leaderboards.

Speaking of top times:

Issa bit close

 

[Invisigoth]

Had my first crack at Race B for the week. Obviously more drivers available doing that one, so I started on a grid of all DR/Ds. I put in some laps with the rexy till I was able to do a lap without comming unstuck and called it race time. Would have been lower down the order, but on a grid of DR/Ds I started P8/15.

It was mayhem! Race Bs have become brutal lately, with no one bothering to drive to the rest of the traffic. The upshot was getting royally reamed at the bus stop. I had cars push past me in a few places, but because there were idiots about, I did make those places up. Sadly I got a 2s penalty for passing under yellow. The car i passed caused the yellow . At the end of the final lap i pulled over and slowed to see if I could still finish ahead. The guy behind never passed me when I crossed and I had burned off the penalty. He still had 1s apparently. Finished P7, so not unhappy with that.

SR white, DR up a bit over 200... more than I was expecting. Despite the lack of manners not a bad finish. On to race C to loose some points .

 

[Arcflyer]

FAB - will watch tomorrow Arcflyer! Cheers. I made it within my goal!! 2.5sec behind! Yeehaa! Another car though...

You need to set yourself a more difficult goal then, that one must have been too easy !!

 

[Invisigoth]

Race C was a bit of a mix. I did a few laps just to get used to the Red Bull again, and cut another 2s off yesterdays time. Optimum was nearly 2s faster again, but I didn't want to waste focus that I would need for the race. I started P9/13 with 7 DR/Ds on the grid. Even if I did do my optimum, I'd still have be P9. The spread of qualifying times was quite large.

As usual auto drive drops me in an awkward place, and the first chicane was a nightmare. I was doing ok I guess, but some of the people didn't quite understand that drafting means you will have to deal with the brake zone at the end and I got rear ended a few times. Then there's the weavers who either had problems with control or were actively blocking. I stuffed up a few times which saw me drop from P6 down to P11. I managed to regain some ground. The way some of these guys were driving you wouldn't want to try going side by side through Porsche . I managed to discover that you get orange flagged for track limit violations, which I had never been aware of before. Also discovered the difference between no penalty and 15s is about 3cm turning onto Mulsanne . I tried to looses some of that, and had a moron behind me who seemed to feel the need to hit me in the side a number of times while passing, despite having 1.5 car widths with which to pass and I pulled over for him . I think it might be the same idiot who decided to try passing me on the outside when I had already pulled over to the outside to let then through.

Finished P9. Mainatained my SR, dropped about 100 DR, so with the gains from Race B I finish the night ahead of where I was last night. Another day above DR 1 .

 

[banckzy]

Wow been doing Race B and all I can say is goodbye GTI VGT!

Changed it to 911 and nearly knocked 1sec off my time. now at 1:40:400 and now and opt of 1:39.. back at it again tonight.

The corner after the chicane is an absolute nightmare for me though. I brake at the 50m mark (or is it 50y mark I dont know) but the fact it turns left I've run out of road a few times and found myself spinning. I'm yet to race but can only imagine the carnage at that corner. I feel like once you've got that and the long downhill turns out the way, the rest is plain sailing? Those long downhill corners seem to be all about throttle control, dont think I used the brake except to line myself up for the last one/.