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Though I agree that track time is important, there is much to be gained with knowledge. For instance, I watched that WR lap and the first thing I noticed (compared to my laps) was the perfectly smooth arc from turn-in, to apex, to exit in turn 1. Also, how much curbing he used. I could ask half a dozen questions on that turn alone. Where is your brake marker? Do you hit brakes hard, or ease into full pressure? Do you let off to turn in, or trail brake,(or let off to turn THEN trail) and if trail braking, do you trail all the way to the apex? When trail braking, do you ease off the pedal as you approach the apex, or do you ease off to a point, then hold until apex? When brake is released, are you imediately on the gas or is there a moment of coasting to confirm your line will hold before getting on the gas? When you hit the curbing on exit, do you "backpedal" the throttle to keep straight? (That last one would be more for exiting onto the straight). Oh yes, there are MANY questions! And (im sure) those answers will depend on the car, the tires, the setup, and the corner. These kinds of tips are one of the (many) reasons I joined this forum.


For instance i always try to figure something out by myself, like what happens if i using 1 higher gear instead, etc. If there's a new track then i try to watch the #1 lap there and trying to analyze it. After i analyzed it i always try to copy it over not even trying to find something out new like braking later or being a bit more aggressive / smooth etc. That's always my method of setting laps.
 
@Rexracer702 another motorcycle guy! :cheers: i race supermoto ( amatuer championship not professional )

On the driving styles comment there are more than a few ways of getting the same lap time, i was watching a reply of a guy round suzuka daily just now, were within half a tenth of eachother at 2:07.8xx and we drive with completly opposite styles.
Just drive your own way ( within the correct window of grip of course ) and with practice lap times will come down
 
Was a weird week in race B, may be a coincidence but there wasn't much close racing, i dunno, let's see what happens in new races. I'm taking a breather this week, all three races are unappealing to me and tbh I have some things that need seeing to so will see what next week brings.
 
Though I agree that track time is important, there is much to be gained with knowledge. For instance, I watched that WR lap and the first thing I noticed (compared to my laps) was the perfectly smooth arc from turn-in, to apex, to exit in turn 1. Also, how much curbing he used. I could ask half a dozen questions on that turn alone. Where is your brake marker? Do you hit brakes hard, or ease into full pressure? Do you let off to turn in, or trail brake,(or let off to turn THEN trail) and if trail braking, do you trail all the way to the apex? When trail braking, do you ease off the pedal as you approach the apex, or do you ease off to a point, then hold until apex? When brake is released, are you imediately on the gas or is there a moment of coasting to confirm your line will hold before getting on the gas? When you hit the curbing on exit, do you "backpedal" the throttle to keep straight? (That last one would be more for exiting onto the straight). Oh yes, there are MANY questions! And (im sure) those answers will depend on the car, the tires, the setup, and the corner. These kinds of tips are one of the (many) reasons I joined this forum.

BTW, though I've never raced a car, I did do some motorcycle roadracing in the 90's, and though I was (relatively) fast for my experience level, one thing I did learn is that a lot of this kind of info (brake markers, turn in point, lines) don't work if you're not fast enough. Even tires. There was always someone that wanted the "fast tire" that "so and so" was using, and they wouldn't listen when told that the tire wouldn't work for them because they were't pushing it hard enough. My point being, though the info is always useful, that doesn't always mean it will work for you or me.

I think if you asked most drivers those questions they would probably have to go and watch their own replay to know for sure, a lot of it is subconcious, ie once you have enough time in a certain car you know if you release the brake at this rate the weight transfer will affect me in such and such a way, and then you can start to modulate the brake for example to achieve what you want for a certain corner or to adjust your line slightly.
Like anything it probably comes down to just more practice - i always wish i had more time to churn laps out :grumpy:
 
For instance i always try to figure something out by myself, like what happens if i using 1 higher gear instead, etc. If there's a new track then i try to watch the #1 lap there and trying to analyze it. After i analyzed it i always try to copy it over not even trying to find something out new like braking later or being a bit more aggressive / smooth etc. That's always my method of setting laps.
I've compared my lap time at Interlagos with the one of @Tidgney as he used the rsr aswell. Found that I took the corners at about the same speed as he did and at the longer straights I reached the same speed. At the shorter ones I was a bit slower so I guess my main problem is being too late on the gas at corner exit. This is something I really need do practice but if someone told me do this and this that would be a valuable input too.

Btw, this is something making you irresistible to any woman in town:
 
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I've compared my lap time at Interlagos with the one of @Tidgney as he used the rsr aswell. Found that I took the corners at about the same speed as he did and at the longer straights I reached the same speed. At the shorter ones I was a bit slower so I guess my main problem is being too late on the gas at corner exit. This is something I really need do practice but if someone told me do this and this that would be a valuable input too.

Btw, this is something making you irresistible to any woman in town:

Nice doodles ;)

Getting on the gas early is where I lose most time as well. I think I'm entering corners a touch to quick when I push, which then means I'm waiting for rotation before getting back on throttle. A half tenth to a tenth in every corner soon mounts up across the lap.

Opening the steering as early as possible on corner exit enables you to get on throttle earlier. I'm still finding my best method but slowly getting quicker.
 
I've compared my lap time at Interlagos with the one of @Tidgney as he used the rsr aswell. Found that I took the corners at about the same speed as he did and at the longer straights I reached the same speed. At the shorter ones I was a bit slower so I guess my main problem is being too late on the gas at corner exit. This is something I really need do practice but if someone told me do this and this that would be a valuable input too.

Btw, this is something making you irresistible to any woman in town:
We need one for the Nordschleife now
 
Did my first Sport Mode race in maybe 2-3 months. Seemed pretty clean. Don't know if I'm ready to return to that mode full-time.
 
I've compared my lap time at Interlagos with the one of @Tidgney as he used the rsr aswell. Found that I took the corners at about the same speed as he did and at the longer straights I reached the same speed. At the shorter ones I was a bit slower so I guess my main problem is being too late on the gas at corner exit. This is something I really need do practice but if someone told me do this and this that would be a valuable input too.

Btw, this is something making you irresistible to any woman in town:

Really interesting.

i qualified with a 33.6 and raced in the 34's. Was racing guys who were running 33's and it's all lost in sector 2 for me. In particular the exit out of Esse where i am losing a solid 7/10's, just cannot get on the throttle as early as other guys are and get burnt all the way down into the final turn.

The whole of S2 is crappy anyway no? Shouldn't count ;)
 
Hello,

New to the forum and really digging all the great info
Looking for a little help on setup for the z in race A. Only managing a 1:07.345
 
race c is going to hurt my ratings, I can barely get a lap in without hitting a wall and receiving a 5 second penalty.
Don't worry your not missing much, the race is awful for SR in the lower ranks, managed to earn myself reset. Usually 1 or 2 drivers finished without a red penalty in all the races I tried. Its only day one and the newness of the circuit ain't helping, might improve through the week, the Tokyo tracks are tricky as the penalties can mount up pretty fast, race A seems good for SR recovery.
 
Don't worry your not missing much, the race is awful for SR in the lower ranks, managed to earn myself reset. Usually 1 or 2 drivers finished without a red penalty in all the races I tried. Its only day one and the newness of the circuit ain't helping, might improve through the week, the Tokyo tracks are tricky as the penalties can mount up pretty fast, race A seems good for SR recovery.

Well given I just went back up again I will steer clear of Race C this week, I guess it will be Fugu Z for me, just a shame we all have the
stock colour but should make for some interesting "guess which car is me" type photo's so I'll stick to it and maybe Suzuka.
 
Are there no penalties in the current Race A? Just did a race where all but one driver finished with a blue SR, and no penalty dots. Even the guy with the red SR, who spent the whole race ramming and tapping other cars, didn't acquire any penalties!
 
Talking technique...
@Rexracer702 if you want to read a good book on technique and concept I highly recommend Ultimate Speed Secrets by Ross Bentley.

Man, I was off pace in Suzuka this morning. I did post a 33 flat at Interlagos.
Gotta try the new track in gr3. Maybe it can make me like my least driven tracks in game.
 
You can get penalties on A, I was using it to try and get my SR back up and managed to get a Red at the end of the race after getting rear ended several times, did a few earlier and had no issue I was SR B then though now down to a pathetic 1 point.
At least there are no FIA race this week got time to get a few points back, hopefully.
After reset I got 18 SR on one race A, this normal?
 
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Until PD fixes their 🤬 and either puts things back the way they were or finds a better way of arranging matching so that those at the lower levels can actually have a race, there's no point. Being stuck on a grid where the only time you get close to anyone is when someone up front screws up is no fun. And then when they get back on track they push you off the track because they drive as though you weren't there because they "are in a hurry to get back to their position". That's not racing, that's just circulating. I might as well be doing hot laps.

Instead I got my jollys erasing a stain on my record that's been bugging me for a while. Got the final gold I needed for all gold for Nurburgring circuit experience.

I know what you mean, which is why I gave up qualifying and concentrate on how many clean passes I can make in races. Even though I'm considered pretty fast, I have no shot at winning either at 99 SR unless it's a track the fast guys avoid. (Or 5am in the morning on a new track lol)

However shouldn't there be more DR.D drivers to fill up the rooms now since the server split? I doubt we'll ever get full D/S, C/S, B/S rooms. There simply aren't enough people playing and PD will never make rooms with just 3 A+/S drivers or 5 A/S drivers. It goes down to SR.D to fill the room. Hence DR and SR rating keep getting more and more meaningless.
Perhaps let of some steam and learn some revenge tactics :mischievous: As lower DR/SR you can hurt the fast guys much more than they can hurt you :D

I hate circulating as well. Starting on pole and staying there all race is the worst race for me. It really isn't any better than trailing behind all race. Qualify below your pace or not at all and you should have a shot at racing some people. Plus if you start last, you can only go up!

I sometimes go to GT League to let of some steam and ram every single AI car out of the way with my over powered car on softs. No penalties in GT League, cut every corner, I didn't see no chicane, wall ride, bounce of cars. Too bad there seem to be people that take that mode as a way to learn racing :banghead:
 
Hello,

New to the forum and really digging all the great info
Looking for a little help on setup for the z in race A. Only managing a 1:07.345

I’m using +1bb and 1tcs currently 106.6 but feel a really low 106 or even high 105 possible for my skill
 
Haha, just did my first day time race on Tokyo. Comedy show. Started 18th out of 20, full room, finished 5th. Unfortunately I lost SR again, 9 points down to 83 now. The results, 6 red S, 3 red A, 5 red B, 1 red C, 1 red E. People are concentrating more on blocking the car behind than actually racing. I got 13 sec in penalties, mainly from avoiding blockers and tapping the wall as result. I also got shoved into the wall a couple times while passing.

I wonder what the next race will bring. So much better without laggy South Americans, not.
 
People should get automatically booted from a race for blocking and ramming people. Like right there on the spot, sure it would take a few innocent victims with it but the majority of people booted would be diserving of it. That would teach them, mega drops in DR and SR for being booted too, like a disconnect.
 
Race 2, -4 SR t0 79. Some places people should not attempt to over take, 4 sec penalty for me. It's that traffic in lap 1 that's hard to avoid. I finished 4th from 15th, fun race. It's a learning process, where to avoid the risk takers and let them crash themselves. I also got a wall penalty, do not follow other people, always assume they suck :)

The pit entrance is a bit tricky on this track as it invites people that pit to brake late and slide into the pit lane or crash into the cars that want to go another lap instead...

Next up, driving with the SR.As and Bs, raise shields.
 
Haha, just did my first day time race on Tokyo. Comedy show. Started 18th out of 20, full room, finished 5th. Unfortunately I lost SR again, 9 points down to 83 now. The results, 6 red S, 3 red A, 5 red B, 1 red C, 1 red E. People are concentrating more on blocking the car behind than actually racing. I got 13 sec in penalties, mainly from avoiding blockers and tapping the wall as result. I also got shoved into the wall a couple times while passing.

I wonder what the next race will bring. So much better without laggy South Americans, not.
Yeah i got a 5 second penalty because i had to go wide to let someone else pass at the last section of the track and ended up a wall touch plus the guy sort of oversteered and went on me. Luckily i managed to pull myself away despite fuel saving like crazy (Mostly went 6 on fuel, then alternate)
 
I’m not really a fan of the VW GTI VGT which is clearly the meta in race C

Going to stick with the mustang for now however has anybody used this and recommend a tyre strategy?

Don’t really fancy going Long on the Hards... if that’s even an option?
 
Talking technique...
@Rexracer702 if you want to read a good book on technique and concept I highly recommend Ultimate Speed Secrets by Ross Bentley.

Man, I was off pace in Suzuka this morning. I did post a 33 flat at Interlagos.
Gotta try the new track in gr3. Maybe it can make me like my least driven tracks in game.
That book is pretty good although I am convinced that those super late apexes he refers to are not the fastest way (in terms of lap time, not of top speed) around the track. Found that on YT:



Rather a scientific approach but that special religion brought us toasters and PlayStations...
 
First clean race bonus on race C! Worth 11 points, seems low, I guess there must have been some contact. From 12th to 4th this time. There are still people finishing with 18 sec in penalties. Those walls hurt, remember to hit another car before you hit a wall. PD logic.
 
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