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kjeldsen
Hmm... can not think of a single week that has been less interesting from my personal taste..
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Well, Race A depends on the car provided. Race B should be an SR Killer (Corkscrew-Hairpin). However I like Race 4. Seeing all these Mégane and TT Kids fall apart with tire wear and fuel consumption is worth participating.:mischievous:
 
Groundfish
I decided to give Suzuka another go. Went with the 650. Turned tcs 3 asm on and ok I surely can’t crash...can I?...
Good times.
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Is the 650 the Lambo???

I tried it without ABS and it was glued to the road. But I was running only mid 2:11s in practice ... strange as the lambo seemed fast in the race.

My problem with the Alfa is sector three - I vary a heap there ... like on a good lap, I am a second faster ... and it almost all comes from the slow speed sharp turn ... in the Alfa practicing, I sort of lost it in that corner, grabbed 1st by mistake, had the car sideways over the Apex (ABS off) grabbed second in the midst of trying to save the car, came out onto the next apex 0.8 seconds faster than my normal there ... tried it again and was slow ... I have loved that corner in faster cars like the GR.3 Audi R8 but maybe the competition is better now and I no longer know what I am doing....

I have though discovered pushing the throttle to switch the weight to the back and boy - what a revelation - but i am having to learn all over again it seems. I had expected to hit 30 DR this week but I've fallen to 25,000 something, all due to running 14th in a mixed field of S, A+, A and B drivers ... I was running 7th and life was sweet. Finished 14th and I am a failure.

Oh and my purest car to drive in race B practice is the Megane - the hot one. The family fat Megane drives like a 1960's Rolls Royce, rolling all over the track - a piece of lard IMO. A family hack. On the track. The VW/Audis are a sin to my generation (yep I'm not young). But the nice Megane with the lovely race bits ... so sweet ... but no power. Darn I am tempted to race it but I know it will be even more frustrating than me in the Alfa - sitting behind slow coaches in the S's and then having them overtaking me or hit me in the back approaching the end of a straight. Jeez this race would be so much more fun if tyre wear was included.
 
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kjeldsen
Hmm... can not think of a single week that has been less interesting from my personal taste..
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Absolutely, there should be no reason to have two races at a single location in the same week. In fact, considering we only have weekly races now I don't think we should see Tokyo two weeks in a row when there are many locations (e.g. Mount Panorama) that haven't been seen for a while.
 
So...more of that Tokyo **** is coming next week??? Well, not 4 me then. Gonna stick to Maggiore reverse. PD: Put both the Dragon trails, The willow, The BMB Infield and Brand's in the daily's more often please! And not in reverse! Cheers racers!
 
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ed24
Absolutely, there should be no reason to have two races at a single location in the same week. In fact, considering we only have weekly races now I don't think we should see Tokyo two weeks in a row when there are many locations (e.g. Mount Panorama) that haven't been seen for a while.
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Never mind locations! They keep repeating location AND car combos from recent months! (I'm looking at you Mini Cooper).

Also, what's the point of crafting a delicious selection of original circuits in Sainte Croix and then hardly ever using them? I miss Sainte Croix!

And I'd also like to say that clearly the original circuits were designed to be enjoyed both ways round, that's the beauty of them. I don't think anyone should see reversed PD circuits as a problem. (Obviously not real world tracks, that's just weird)
 
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I feel like I've a dirty little secret...I actually like Maggiore.:lol: Perhaps I have a soft spot for it because it was my first ever online race. I also don't mind reverse tracks on the PD make-uppey fictional tracks because, well, if they are not real tracks then who's to say what the real way round is? (hah.. @benjoi84 literally made that point as I typed my message) Maggiore always seems to have a lovely flow to it for me.

Absolutely bizarre how they have managed to put Tokyo in again this week...twice. Perhaps it's a pattern and all 3 will be on a Tokyo track for Christmas week when I'm off work so I can finally get some time to play and not have any tracks to play on (on my new Playseat and G29 that I'll be unwrapping...which I've already mentioned 10 times but will do again :D:D:D:D:D)

@nowcontrol: Alsace would be nice too. Another PD track I enjoy(ish)...or would at least like to have a chance to race again and find out if I enjoy. As for BMB Infield, was July the last time this appeared as a B race?
 
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Saturday morning racing with the Bees. In the 7am race there were only 5 of us SR.S drivers left, so matchmaking filled it up with one SR.A and the rest SR.B for a grid of 14. Actually that makes it easier for me, started 13th, won the race in 3rd as 1 and 2 both had about 7 seconds to scrub.

Sometimes it's more difficult, a few races earlier a group of 6 was battling in front of me, blockers up front, pushers behind slowing everyone down to 2 minute lap times. So I pitted in lap 3, and was in 5th by the time they all pitted. Kinda boring, too easy to pass in the pit :)
 
Melbourne Park
Is the 650 the Lambo???

I tried it without ABS and it was glued to the road. But I was running only mid 2:11s in practice ... strange as the lambo seemed fast in the race.

My problem with the Alfa is sector three - I vary a heap there ... like on a good lap, I am a second faster ... and it almost all comes from the slow speed sharp turn ... in the Alfa practicing, I sort of lost it in that corner, grabbed 1st by mistake, had the car sideways over the Apex (ABS off) grabbed second in the midst of trying to save the car, came out onto the next apex 0.8 seconds faster than my normal there ... tried it again and was slow ... I have loved that corner in faster cars like the GR.3 Audi R8 but maybe the competition is better now and I no longer know what I am doing....

I have though discovered pushing the throttle to switch the weight to the back and boy - what a revelation - but i am having to learn all over again it seems. I had expected to hit 30 DR this week but I've fallen to 25,000 something, all due to running 14th in a mixed field of S, A+, A and B drivers ... I was running 7th and life was sweet. Finished 14th and I am a failure.

Oh and my purest car to drive in race B practice is the Megane - the hot one. The family fat Megane drives like a 1960's Rolls Royce, rolling all over the track - a piece of lard IMO. A family hack. On the track. The VW/Audis are a sin to my generation (yep I'm not young). But the nice Megane with the lovely race bits ... so sweet ... but no power. Darn I am tempted to race it but I know it will be even more frustrating than me in the Alfa - sitting behind slow coaches in the S's and then having them overtaking me or hit me in the back approaching the end of a straight. Jeez this race would be so much more fun if tyre wear was included.
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Sorry, it’s the gr4 Mcclaren. Fun ride. Good sound. Powers decent if ya figure out when to shift...
 
I think I'll enjoy Gr.4 on the Outer Loop. Top end speed shouldn't be as important, so I won't have to spend the entire time chasing Ford GT's.
 
Well, I swore at the beginning of the week that I would get a 2:10 at Suzuka before the week was up. Managed a 2:10.837. I ran what must have been 30 laps in time trials...lots of going off trying to find speed in different parts of the track, but once I got the 10, I backed off a bit and backed it up with another high 10 and some low 11's. Decided to enter a B race and, from the pole, I proceded to run off in T1 on the first 2 laps. Finished 10th. Had to enter another after that (P3 start), and ran wide in the kink trying to get around the 2 cars in front, but managed to rejoin in P 10. Ran a couple clean laps up to P4, then lots of blocking and weaving (I hate that) had a couple of bumps and took a total of 6 seconds in penalty, 4 of which were for cutting the kink, but with what was going on with P2&3 I had no choice. One went wide and gave me third, and I gotva run on the other coming out of the hairpin. Blocked on the way to spoon, but went through it pretty clean and had a good run coming out. Went left, blocked, right, blocked, left again, blocked and had to lift, back to the right to carry speed through the kink, faked left and got inside into the chicane...slight bump and 2 seconds penalty and I was in second. All for nothing though because with penalties I ended 3rd. I hate racing like that. I like to be clean and give people room, but if you blow a corner and loose all your momentum, and then start weaving to keep people behind on the straight, you deserve what you get.
 
Well I like that new Tokyo circuit, it is definitely technical, but as all tight ones, it's a SR killer. Any attack or defence has the potential of being on the fence and that is at least a 5s pen. As soon as i got down to SR A, I decided I'm done. Noting how mixed SR S lobbies are in terms of DR, I guess many people did so.
Switched to Suzuka - well its the classic. Fine cleanish racing with an occasional divebomb or brainfart defence here and there, but got back to SR S, so will probably take a rest until next week and the 19th races.
Cheers
 
Since Race C booted me back to D/E I decided to run every Gr.4 car I own at Suzuka to catch up. Here are the results:



Everything up to the Viper I did on Thursday, the rest today. All with no qualifying time. I've just qualified for the first time in the Huracan and managed a 2:11.7, before bottling the following lap where I was 1.4 up on my splits. I've enjoyed this, there've been a few great drives and once you get back to SR/S it's nice being able to pass people who will act sensibly when you do.
 
Just like the rest of the week, racing on Suzuka has been clean fun.

My first full week with a new G29... and boy are my arms tired. So started to wear work gloves. It helps a lot. But it feels so stupid. :lol:

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stpatty
Since Race C booted me back to D/E I decided to run every Gr.4 car I own at Suzuka to catch up. Here are the results:



Everything up to the Viper I did on Thursday, the rest today. All with no qualifying time. I've just qualified for the first time in the Huracan and managed a 2:11.7, before bottling the following lap where I was 1.4 up on my splits. I've enjoyed this, there've been a few great drives and once you get back to SR/S it's nice being able to pass people who will act sensibly when you do.
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Amazing results! From SR 1 to 99 unqualified in a different car each time, great work! I'm guessing the Huracan and Italia will be popular next week in race C, although I don't have much experience with GR.4. I tend to avoid it.

Did the punting stop is SR.A or were you lucky to avoid it? Your experiences at lower SR are very familiar lol.
 
Sven Jurgens
I'm guessing the Huracan and Italia will be popular next week in race C
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Yup. The straightaway is so long, you've got to have a good top speed car. The Veyron will get used a lot, too.
Turn 1 is usually a nightmare though, because of the slipstream, everyone is on top of each other at the braking zone. I've learned at that track to hug the inside of turn 1, at all costs on lap 1.
 
Sven Jurgens
Amazing results! From SR 1 to 99 unqualified in a different car each time, great work! I'm guessing the Huracan and Italia will be popular next week in race C, although I don't have much experience with GR.4. I tend to avoid it.

Did the punting stop is SR.A or were you lucky to avoid it? Your experiences at lower SR are very familiar lol.
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Honestly, I don't remember at all. In today's races there were much fewer erratic moves at places like the chicane at the end and under the bridge. I did get lucky a few times today, I think in the Corvette race a pair of TT's bumped each other through the esses and went peeling off to the sides like something from a cartoon.

I'd say me being better at the track as the races went on had more to do with the SR rise (and more familiar with the cars - the order was from least driven to most) as I got better at being clean myself and recognising when I could get past people safely.

I would recommend this method to anyone trying to learn a track. I tried this at Fuji a few weeks ago, but the start bug made it pointless when you didn't know who you were actually racing against.
 
Just beat my previous qualification for race C by over a second, from 1:56,544s in the Toyota FT-1 VGT, to 1:55,345s with the Ford GT LM Spec II Test Car and I'm now on top of my friends list, difference between #2 in my list is 0,063s so it's a close one, it wasn't my optimal lap and I still saw room to improve but it was the best I could do with this car for now, wish I had taken this car earlier in the week, it does really great on this track, but ah well, I can still race it tonight and all day tomorrow if my internet connection allows it.
 
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I tried a Tokyo race as I missed the time slot for the daily C. Unprepared, started last in the Huracan, finished last after getting bumped off by the only car I passed (when he crashed). My best lap was an abysmal 2:17, actually I did not get to finish, timed out. Suzuka + GR.4 is not for me. Back to gaining 10+ positions on Tokyo!
 
Ouch, my emotions got the better of me last race. After getting nothing but blue ratings this one Ford rattled me. He was behind me at the start, a driver in front of me was struggling so I slow down appropriately for T1. The Ford bounces off me at full speed, pushing me into the struggling car who goes into the wall. The penalty system gets it wrong +5 sec. I follow the Ford and see him messing up and banging other drivers in front of me and getting away with it. Lap 3 I have passed him yet then he dive bombs me at the U-turn for the pit, another 2 sec for me.

Then it seems he is trying to force me into the wall where the road narrows just after the pit on the left. I've had enough and push him back into the right wall where he falls behind. Another 4 sec for me, not really worth it. Then I realize it was a clumsy yet innocent bystander that bumped me to the left wall, ouch. Never, ever, retaliate, my bad. I apologized to him after the race, said my behavior was crap. Luckily he accepted my apology.

However the game did not of course and I went from SR 99 to 64. Oh well, I already have plenty experience racing against SR.B from my nightly races. Back to 99 I shall go. Mixed SR.A / SR.B room next.
 
Daily Race C, 05:00 Room
Car Used: Chevrolet Corvette C7 Gr.3

Pole position again, but this time I've finished 3rd. The race was brutal, as that bugger from my first SM race at Tokyo South Inner stays in his GTI to get past me quickly. The showdown briefly ended when a B/B rated Taiwanese in a McLaren 650S overtook the bugger until that GTI passed him. I decided to pit on Lap 4 to try and beat him with my fresher, less tyre consuming Vette, until I smacked the Final Corner wall as I begin my 5th lap, but I was able to catch that GTI quickly as he gets to slightly underfuel his car. Then the actual brawl starts when I outbraked him into the Shipping Terminal section, and he decides to force me wide, and he gets a 2 second penalty. Then more combat happened as I get a 2 second penalty myself for trying to avoid the dividers and hitting into the bugger himself. At this point, he serves the penalties behind me, and I'm serving mine on the fly as well. This results in a final lap where the B/B rated McLaren driver caught up to me and I didn't defend from that, and then he decides to shove me out subtly, and then I decided to serve the last of my penalties until the final straight...At this point, they should introduce the Penalty Lines that were promised to come to "Dailies", as the winner gets his SR dropped to A, McLaren driver in 2nd stays in B/B with a blue rating, and I got a red S.

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Next Week's Race C Simulation
Car Used: Audi TT Cup '16

I decided to do a simulation run of what the Race C will feel like next week, and the rather high tyre wear and low fuel consumption rates means that Race C basically works like an FIA race nowdays, with three compounds to choose from and you are encouraged to go flat out on Softs and switch to a new set without refuelling, allowing a lighter fuel load which reduces tyre wear by an amount (even PD acknowledged this mechanic in one of the World Final live reports). Finished the simulation with a 15:28 race time starting from pole. The TT is a viable option here...
 
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I just enjoy the track. Kind of weird to watch my fuel burn off real fast ion the first stint. I did start with Rm tyres and pitted with about 50.6 liters(5.9 Laps left). I filled up, slapped RH tyres on and finished the race. Fuel seemed to burn way slower.

Anyway, without the HUD, relying on my instrument data and how the car "felt" each lap, the car felt good to the chequered flag. I think a slight tap of the wall, gave me a penalty and no clean race. When I finished, I just had a red dot and no time penalty.
 
I got a chance to do a Race tonight, started P1 but couldn’t really get anything going. I got up to a 2.5 second lead on the field and then some guy came out of no where’s on the last lap and managed to get around me on the last corner, luckily for me he bumped me and got a 2s penalty for it or he would have Won. Man I was slow lol, I can’t believe I almost blew that lead like that, I knew it was for #50 and I kinda tensed up and lost my focus a bit on the last couple laps and couldn’t hold me speed, I was all over the place. But I managed to squeak it out in the end, Win #50! I’m quittin while I’m ahead, it’s been a good week, two 1st and a 2nd on a track I struggle on, I’ll take it. :)

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I saved the replay(it’s uploading now, I’ll link it when it’s done) seeing as it was #50 and all, but I also wanted to see buddy’s race who nearly beat me at the end as well. Good thing I did, I don’t know if it’s a glitch or a what, but he goes way off track and into the grass and then magically appears back on track at full speed, he has his headlights on, is there a new headlight glitch or something? I’ve never seen that happen before, he glitches around and back into place a few other times too. I know I blew my lead on my own but it definitely doesn’t help when the guys behind you get reset mid flight without loosing any time/speed. I’ll get the video up shortly when it’s done.
 
I'm taking this starting last a bit too far now. I missed the start (had to erm nr 2) and found myself 30 seconds behind the pack. I was still in SR.A though so not that tough of a competition. I caught up in lap 3, decided to pit early instead of passing cars one by one. That worked very well. Finished 8th with fastest lap under my name and only one penalty free. I could have been 6th if it weren't for a Ford crashing into a wall, ghosting, then not ghosting right in front of me. He was lagging as well and somehow spun me into the wall. I didn't get a penalty for it at least. Back in SR.S
 
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