"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[stpatty]

Well this is probably my biggest issue. Some guys just doesnt want you to pass them. Even when its so clear that im the faster one. So they defend every line there is and i have the choice to make: Simply brake and lose seconds or keep full throttle and hope they make a mistake or slighty touch them.

Honestly I love hard races, fighting for every meter and not giving presents at all. But when someone is significant faster than me, I give them that Tiny space to pass me so they can race their race and I can do my thing. Like i said before there’s no need to ruin his or my race.

I had this last night in the FIA race in Tokyo. I was coming down the straight and caught up to the guy who had been in the lead as he was coming out of the pits. I caught up to him where the track starts to go up coming out of the tunnel and I put my fuel mix to 6 since I had a bit of a slipstream. I knew he was faster than me, in a faster car and on fresh tyres, so why would I try and fight that?

In the chat after he thanked me for not crashing into him as well. I think it's more of a thing in races with pit stops and different strategies, but you'll always have lunatics who try to pass you at every turn at all costs and others who'll defend in the same way. Generally these people will either take themselves out trying one of those two things or they'll make a mistake somewhere else. You just need to get used to predicting them.

 

[sturk0167]

What are your strategies for race C? One stop or no stop, starting on softs or mediums? Do you guys change your set up or leave it on how it is?

I won a race with a one-stop strategy, and I saw a couple others do it, too. That was in the A, B, C SR rooms. I used mediums for the first 3 laps and softs for the last two. In the S races, 95% aren't stopping, and probably not the winner. I think most top guys are using the R92 with hard tires on the rear, and either medium or hard on the front. So far, I've been one of the black sheep. I use medium tires on the front and rear of the LM55. They hold up well for the 5 laps.

This race does not allow changes to the car settings. Just the usual TCS and brake bias.

Good luck

 

[ARTAsean]

What are your strategies for race C? One stop or no stop, starting on softs or mediums? Do you guys change your set up or leave it on how it is?

No stop. RM front RH rear. Brake Balance +2 (to the rear)

Don't need to shortshift as you have more than enough fuel for all 5 laps.

Personally, depending on how hard I've been pushing the car I might shortshift my 2-3 gear change to save some of my rear tires. Usually just the last lap I do this. also, I have a clutch and shifter so it doesn't bog as much. Your mileage may vary.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I won a race with a one-stop strategy, and I saw a couple others do it, too. That was in the A, B, C SR rooms. I used mediums for the first 3 laps and softs for the last two. In the S races, 95% aren't stopping, and certainly not the winner. I think most top guys are using the R92 with hard tires on the rear, and either medium or hard on the front.

This race does not allow changes to the car settings. Just the usual TCS and brake bias.

Good luck

This morning a Mazda won with a one stop. He did punt pole out of the way in the Ford chicanes and finished downgraded to SR.A... However yesterday a clean one stopper in the R92CP won a couple races. The prerequisite is starting at the top so you can build a lead on softs and not fall too far back in the pit.

The non meta strategy also only works if you can hang on to a R92CP on the straight. As soon as they have no one to draft they get passed. Starting on pole with a Mazda or TS050 with a R92CP in second providing the tow on the straight.

It is usually a no stopper that wins in the R92CP, only in the morning when the fastest people are still asleep do other cars have a chance.

 

[sturk0167]

This morning a Mazda won with a one stop.

That's surprising. It's really unnecessary to stop with that car. I wish I was in that race, because my mediums are still pretty good on lap 5.
I don't think softs will create very much of an advantage with that car. Because the downforce is so great, it handles well, regardless.

 

[VolkswagenX]

I don't think GR3 is good for the Tokyo track in daily race b I've been taken out on the first corner multiple time know. 3 times starting from pole! People just don't brake for the first corner and try to drive through you.

 

[djidane57]

I don't think GR3 is good for the Tokyo track in daily race b I've been taken out on the first corner multiple time know. 3 times starting from pole! People just don't brake for the first corner and try to drive through you.

that and people swerving all the time trying to block you , Magnussen style

 

[O604]

I don't think GR3 is good for the Tokyo track in daily race b I've been taken out on the first corner multiple time know. 3 times starting from pole! People just don't brake for the first corner and try to drive through you.

I feel for you. Don't take it personally. Most of the time it's just anxious drivers carrying too much speed, used to empty tracks, underestimating slipstream and everybody going for the same line. Half the time it's not even the car that hit you at fault, it's another that starts a chain reaction.

Most drivers don't repeat the same mistake again. Just be extra aware in those incident magnet spots. Anticipate the worst. Motor Sports = Murphy's Law on steroids.

 

[sturk0167]

Anyone else ever get in a rut when you've made a good qualifying lap time, but you know you can improve it, if you can nail every turn just right, so then you spend the next hour restarting about 20 seconds into the lap because you know you didn't hit the first couple of corners perfectly?

I know I need a break when I keep getting the same results over and over and over again.

I hope I'm not the only one.

Edit. Now that I think about it, it could be that I'm just too boneheaded to realize that my time is as good as it's gonna get.

 

[VolkswagenX]

that and people swerving all the time trying to block you , Magnussen style

That happens a lot to and is super annoying on the Tokyo track because you have nowhere to go

I feel for you. Don't take it personally. Most of the time it's just anxious drivers carrying too much speed, used to empty tracks, underestimating slipstream and everybody going for the same line. Half the time it's not even the car that hit you at fault, it's another that starts a chain reaction.

Most drivers don't repeat the same mistake again. Just be extra aware in those incident magnet spots. Anticipate the worst. Motor Sports = Murphy's Law on steroids.

I'm not even that angry at the drivers but it's just a bit frustrating. It happens a lot on other tracks to so I've gotten used to it and have become good at avoiding others missing their braking points. The problem on this Tokyo track is that you have almost zero change of avoiding it when it happens. Moving out of the way means you hit the wall and get a 5 second penalty or are to slow through the corner causing other to hit you and get a penalty for going to slow.

It would be nice if the daily races were actual daily races but it is what it is and I don't expect it to change. Maybe ad 2 extra daily races (and call them weekly) and have a race for each class (N, GR4, GR3, GR2 and GR1).

 

[Rexracer702]

Hi all. I'm in SR He!!, and have been running the A race trying to get it back up. Seemed like a good idea at first...wide track, big gap between the first and second group usually. Best finish was a 3rd. Could have been a win, but the 2 in front were not about to let me past. The second place car put me into the pits on the last lap of the previous race because I had a run on him. I think I'm up to 38 points, from a low of 17. I'll probably try a B and C tonight. Tried the Lambo out and set a better time in Q. 34.1, but I figure I'll be low 33's, or maybe into the 32's by the end. Drove the Ferarri. I'd love to see what one of the aliens can do in that. It seems to carry a lot of corner speed.

I know it's going back a ways, but earlier Sven made a comment on dealing with traffic, and blockers. He made a point that I know well, but can't seem to hold on to in the heat of battle. Many, myself included, tend to push the braking zone when trying to speed up. Truth is, you can brake early, coast for a full second and get your corner speed right and hit you apex, and your time in that sector will be MUCH faster than if you overbrake, miss your apex by even a little, or carry too much speed and have to lift on the exit. I KNOW this! I need to chill and try to ignore whats happening and run my race. Heck, Sven had a front row seat for me overthinking things when I saw him coming going into the Dunlop curve and, not wanting to slow him down, braked too late and ended up in the sand. He probably wasn't even that close at that point. That was it for that race, as I got used for a berm and knocked off twice more before getting up to speed and hitting the straight.

One of the most satisfying things is to see them coming in the brake zone, giving up the inside, and watching them go wide on exit as you drive past. If they were really pulling a dive bomb, and you avoid, you may have 2 seconds on them when it's done. I've done that a few times at Tokyo.

 

[vvise]

Brake Balance -2 (that's to the rear)

Negative brake balance is to the front
Positive brake balance is to the rear

am i crazy?

 

[TTM]

Won 25 in total of the daily race c, which was my goal. Had a close last race too.
Set my fastest overall race time on the soft tyre front and rear
Almost 60k dr!

 

[ARTAsean]

Negative brake balance is to the front
Positive brake balance is to the rear

am i crazy?

Nope, you're spot on. Brain fart on my part, I did mean +2 to the rear.

 

[Invisigoth]

Anyone else ever get in a rut when you've made a good qualifying lap time, but you know you can improve it, if you can nail every turn just right, so then you spend the next hour restarting about 20 seconds into the lap because you know you didn't hit the first couple of corners perfectly?

I find I get to a point where instead of improving, I just keep getting worse and make more mistakes. Best to take a breather, relax, and come back to it again later. 👍

 

[sturk0167]

Still the black sheep.

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• sturk0167
• Jan 3, 2019

 

[AUTISTICBOYX]

Happy new Year lads. Do we know the daily race selection for next week? I've been eager to hop on and race during holidays but the selections have been dreadful lately.

 

[Hasnain282]

Happy new Year lads. Do we know the daily race selection for next week? I've been eager to hop on and race during holidays but the selections have been dreadful lately.

No they're not up yet, once they do show up you'll find them here: https://www.kudosprime.com/gts/events.php

 

[Veinz]

I'm feeling under the weather so I figure I'll give BMB a shot since it's nice and easy. Quick question though, does bump drafting still give penalties?

 

[Hasnain282]

I'm feeling under the weather so I figure I'll give BMB a shot since it's nice and easy. Quick question though, does bump drafting still give penalties?

No penalties, but the driver in front gets given SR down

 

[Veinz]

Ahh ok, that's not cool. Thanks.

 

[Highlandor]

No penalties, but the driver in front gets given SR down

LOL - yep...

Just had this last race. I managed a no penalty race, didn't get any orange SR down arrows from my driving but people kept giving me a boost on the straight, I ended up with negative 4 SR

 

[RZQSPEED]

Two races to kick off my GT Sport playing duties in 2019!

Daily Race B, 05:10 Room
Car Used: Ford GT LM Spec II

Kicking off the year with my first pole position of 2019 and an immediate lights-to-flag victory! I was able to set a 1:31.7 using this car when lapping with it. Race starts and a B/B driver in a Huracán gave me some pressure until I broke away a few laps later. Total race time is a 7:50.400 with the Fastest lap being a 1:32.965.

Daily Race B, 05:30 Room
Car Used: Honda NSX Gr.3

We all know that Sendai is a fan of night battles, so I've decided to use the car after abandoning the drive in the Huracán, hoping for a quiet lobby and to challenge myself with a lower top speed. And then some B/S driver in a Huracán decided to appear with a 1:31.3 qualy time!! Come to the race and I saw a glimpse of hope as that Huracán driver bottled himself out of the chicane, smacking the wall and getting a 5 second penalty, but then again this is a 75K DR grade B/S driver that we're talking about as he just disappears into the distance as I try to push hard in the NSX, plus the fact he sets the fastest lap of a 1:32.1! In the end I have to settle for 2nd, a Peel P50-sized shame for my A+ DR, but at least it's understandable that if I see a potentially fast driver, I'll try and use whatever car that can match his car's top speed and battle him out!

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Lost Race C in the funniest way the other night. Ran over a pylon lying in the middle of the road coming out of Mulsanne corner on the last lap Couldn't go right because my tyres were shot and that would slow me down anyway. Couldn't go left because of the kerbs and I will lose the rear on acceleration. Thought I could just drive over it but the R92CP is too low, I bounced and that was that. Didn't lose the car completely but the 2nd place guy passed me easily on the straights. So annoying. But next Race A I had a good win after jostling the whole race with the Top 3 so that was good enough trade off

Surprisingly Race A and C are pretty clean on AU/NZ. Can't say about the bottom half of the grid but Top 3-4 are usually pretty respectful. Race A in particular I thought is going to be a complete demo derby with the poor handling C2 and oval reputation for dirty racing, but everyone manages to hold their own. Race C you really need to qualify in Top 3 otherwise you start mid corner and you're screwed. Only tried the R92CP so far, no stop on RH is best for me. I'll try the LM55 next.

Race B is pinball country. Whoever gets pole usually streaks into the distance and everyone behind just squabbles among themselves. Definitely the inferior layout compared to the Inner variant. Would've been better with Gr.4 cars IMO. The chicane surprisingly isn't the biggest problem for me, but the corner before is. Just can't get my braking point right because of the slight uphill and off camber approach. The Huracan is oversteery but suits this track because it's biased against understeer cars. Tried the Ford GT and VW but not as fast. Gonna try the rest of MR cars later.

Also, I'm just about halfway to my platinum trophy goal. Sitting at 44 wins at 158 races currently. Definitely finding it easier to win now with the region locking.

 

[Pigems]

No racing for me tonight, just hot laps, I took last night off and I’m still tired from all the racing over the holidays lol. I did manage to shave a little off of both my times for Races A and B , but not much. I got my Vette time down to 56.667 and my Ford GT time down to 1:33.709, I tried the Lambo on B but it’s to squirrely for me tonight lol. I don’t think there’s much more on BMB for me and maybe another tenth or two on Tokyo, but again not much. This is about the best I got this week, time to get back to racing tomorrow and get some Dubs this weekend.

 

[Rexracer702]

Well, I got my first B and C podiums this week. Both 3rds. First C race I spun coming out of the esses into Tertre Rouge on the first lap. Still got back to 4th. Next race started 4th, picked up a spot at mulsanne, and had a lonely run to the finish in 3rd. 12 seconds to 2nd, (would have been 9 but the last chicane almost bit me) and about 15 to third.
Tokyo was fun. I had to be smart because I need all the SR I can get. I got away with the top 3 and there were 5 seconds on 2 of them in the first lap. The front 2 were dicing but not slowing each other much. I was trying to get around the Vette in front of me. Carefully. I was faster coming out of the right just before the chicane, but too dangerous to pass, especially in the Lambo. I hate that chicane. Without it that track would be awsome. Anyway, I got by him coming out of the hairpin. I threatened going in, and he got in a little hot, and I rolled right by at the apex. He fought back for half a lap, then I started to gap him. I think he ended up 5th. I would say that was probably my best run so far this week. SR is up to 47 points so I'm a solid B. The Tokyo race was an all B room, so I can actually race safely for the most part. Shooting for recovering my S this weekend.

 

[Groundfish]

Anyone else ever get in a rut when you've made a good qualifying lap time, but you know you can improve it, if you can nail every turn just right, so then you spend the next hour restarting about 20 seconds into the lap because you know you didn't hit the first couple of corners perfectly?

I know I need a break when I keep getting the same results over and over and over again.

I hope I'm not the only one.

Edit. Now that I think about it, it could be that I'm just too boneheaded to realize that my time is as good as it's gonna get.

That was basically me on Panorama gr4. I managed to sneak a couple more tenths but not much.

So I did my 2nd and 3rd ever race c...
I did poorly, this is why I have yet to try and qualify. I ran the meta. First race 12 which was dfl since the other starters apparently quit.
Race two I spotted some familiars, even pulled up and said hi to Sven on the straight. I drove poorly overall with some mistakes etc. This is why I have not qualified. I don’t mind gifting away some dr, but I’m really not up to speed consistency wise. I picked up spots but I could have done better.
Good fun for me though...
Someone has to be the well intentioned back marker!

 

[TTM]

Grabbed another win at race c, but a dirty driver has cost me a little bit of sr
Damn

 

[YoBuck]

First daily race for about 2 months for me last night, first time in game at all for about a month.
Just a couple of A races, surprisingly clean, no wins but only done 5 qualy laps so was no where near optimum with my lines etc.
Might settle into it tonight and see how I get on.
Been playing pcars2 for a bit, deffo makes gtsport easier haha.

 

[LeGeNd-1]

Race A continues to be my farming race today. I don't know about anyone else but I start to feel bad if I win a few times in a row lol. Usually I leave after 2-3 wins to give others a chance.

Race B is a bit cleaner today. I think people have settled down pretty well by now. I'm still not feeling the track though. Tried the 458 which is better stability wise but is far too slow down the straight after the hairpin. Everyone just blows past me like I'm standing still After that I just spent time trying out all the other MR cars. Fastest for me is the 650S oddly enough, followed by the 911. Half a sec slower are the Audi R8, Huracan and Peugeot VGT. The rest are either too slow down the straights or too unstable to be consistent in a race. I think apart from hotlapping I won't be spending too much time on this combo.

Race C I finally tried the LM55. The difference in tyre wear compared to the R92CP is staggering I pushed hard the whole race and still have half of my RM left at the end. Understeer is an issue but out of corners the 4WD just made it so easy. The gearing is far too short though. I don't know why PD don't bother to test these things properly. I ended up using the Engine Map at 4 down the straight to keep it just below the limiter. Clean race, started 3rd and finished 2 seconds behind the leading R92CP (which was lapping 2 seconds a lap quicker than me at one point, so pretty happy with that). I'm gonna try the other Group C cars to see if they're any good, but otherwise it's pretty fun to use the underdog VGTs and LMP1s and try to make up time in the corners. Don't really mind losing wins here as Race A is my farm.