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Finally got to racing...

First race was pretty good. Started 5 and stayed there till lap 4 when i was able to get by 4th when he made a small mistake. It was close racing but i got him in the end by half a car length.

Race two, started 3rd. First place pulled away from turn 1 while the guy who started second and i trade places in a great race, till on the last lap, i touched the sand in the hairpin and became an unguided missle. Finish in 7

Third race. Started 4 and finished 2 just by keeping it on the track. Nothing much else to say about that one lol
 
Dairyworker
Finally got to racing...

First race was pretty good. Started 5 and stayed there till lap 4 when i was able to get by 4th when he made a small mistake. It was close racing but i got him in the end by half a car length.

Race two, started 3rd. First place pulled away from turn 1 while the guy who started second and i trade places in a great race, till on the last lap, i touched the sand in the hairpin and became an unguided missle. Finish in 7

Third race. Started 4 and finished 2 just by keeping it on the track. Nothing much else to say about that one lol
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Pretty sure I raced with you
 
Pigems
I agree 100%!!! Starts have been good so far, though I’ve only done two.

Got another one, 3 Star with FL this time, cleared the field by 12+ seconds in a B to D dr and SR S room. Only one guys Q time was within a second though, so not really a fast room. But I’ll take Dubs all day long. :)

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Maybe not 1.5 but definitely some for sure. It doesn’t shift quite as poorly as some of the other H pattern cars they’ve given us at least. :)
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Sorry for the noob question but why are people faster when they use the shifter?
 
All good man. I didn't take it that way. I just type my thoughts some times. I had to look at your profile to see your psn and then realised who you were. Also you drove away from the rest of us for those races. You are fast man, don't be sorry for that
 
CrimsonKing
Sorry for the noob question but why are people faster when they use the shifter?
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It's not just the shifter it's the clutch and shifter in unison. The simplest way to explain it is that the shifts are slow as hell in GTS and if you have a clutch and shifter you can shift as fast as, well, humanly possible. Dang near Sequential Transmission speed
 
I had some races after my appendix operation.

Firstly I lost some points from evidently logging on to race but not racing - got DSQ and reprimanded for bad driving, so went to 81 on SR and a hit on DR.

Anyhow turned up for the 1st race and was 6th on the grid. I am not using TC anymore so I put it in 2nd straight away - mistake, a Lexus or Toyota cruised by my on the corner side, so I was to the left b4 the corner. I got crashed into heavily and ended up last. Battled back to 7th - with the second fastest time. I also went down to A on SR. Next race started 7th - got hit on the same corner, same tactic - back to 15th this time. Got back to 8th with the second fastest time again. I did not loose SR this time though, but probably got no gain on DR. Then was third on the grid for 3 races - came 3rd, and two seconds. One guy in a Peugeot as an S driver with slow qualifying, and he ended up 7 seconds behind me, two cars away - so I may have gained some DR there.

Then a 10th start with plenty of talent, and I was back to SR S now. I was going quite well in 6th but under brakes at the chicane (b4 the main straight) I copped a penalty on the first lap. The Porsche is tough there for me, without the ABS. I haven't worked out that bit of the track at all. So at the end of the main straight (the start of the 3rd lap) I backed off to get rid of the 0.638 second penalty. But nothing was wiped off my penalty. *&!!*&*^#@* ... and I lost two places ... I tried it again - still no reaction. lost more places. Eventually I found a spot where it was OK to wipe off some time ... but I finished with a red dot. Jeez ... and 9th place. I also did not gain any DR - I think because of the red dot??? I lost my cool a bit with the inability to get rid of my penalty and lost some of my race lines. My best race time was 1.4 seconds slower than my other races too - maybe due to trying to wipe off that penalty, maybe because I got rattled.

Anyhow that was enough for now but it was fun. I'm going to focus on keeping it clean.
 
I like the daily races very much and try to race every day and I think I'm not a bad driver. Nurnberg GP I drive about 1.58.5 in GR3 but I can't understand how the really fast guys can go around in about 1.54.xxx. Can't figure out where they find 3 to 4 seconds on a lap :-(
 
ARTAsean
It's not just the shifter it's the clutch and shifter in unison. The simplest way to explain it is that the shifts are slow as hell in GTS and if you have a clutch and shifter you can shift as fast as, well, humanly possible. Dang near Sequential Transmission speed
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Oh ok, thanks for the knowledge. I've always played with controller and forgot wheel users had a clutch in their arsenal.
 
ARTAsean
It's not just the shifter it's the clutch and shifter in unison. The simplest way to explain it is that the shifts are slow as hell in GTS and if you have a clutch and shifter you can shift as fast as, well, humanly possible. Dang near Sequential Transmission speed
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A lot also depends on the car. With some cars my finger is faster than your foot/hand, the up and down shifts are bangbangbang. Others are laggy. They have changed the response time for some cars so the lag between shifts is less so it's easier to drop down a few. The lag for Race A isn't too bad... fast enough for a Hail Mary "ohcrapohcrapohcrap please stay on the track" save from falling off the track :lol:. I'd be doing regular impressions of crash McRae if I was using AT.
 
I got some permanent problems with Nurburgring GP, no matter how hard I try I got only 2:03:5xx, but it seems like I got to have ay least 2:00:xxx, any advices?
 
GarikFirst
I got some permanent problems with Nurburgring GP, no matter how hard I try I got only 2:03:5xx, but it seems like I got to have ay least 2:00:xxx, any advices?
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Watch one of the top 10 laps to see what lines they are taking, and also see where you are losing the most time. The key is to be as smooth as possible. Often 'trying harder' results in slower lap times. I know this is true for myself. When pushing too hard it's best to slow things down, brake a little earlier and concentrate on a wide entry, getting to the apex and then a smooth acceleration out of the corner. It's remarkable how often that results in faster lap times.

Smooth is fast my friend!

You could also post a video of your lap so we can offer some helpful feedback.
 
Apologies to bomb the thread, however, I am fairly new to GT Sport (well, fairly = extremely!!).

Been away from gaming for about 20 years, but children are now old enough for me to start having a bit of "me time", so I got a PS4 and a G29 wheel and pedals set and starred caning GT Sport in earnest in the last few days. I am still only level 16 as I only play when the kids are in bed, but I am enjoying it immensely, having the wheel is just amazing for me and whilst I have RDR2 FIFA Spiderman, pretty much the only thing I am playing is GTS.

Because of the amount of time I have been away from gaming I am so used to playing against the computer that this racing against real people thing seems alien to me, however, unless I try it I probably will never know.

Are their any online races where I can actually be competitive and not trailing around depressing myself at how people got so fast? Are they speed rated? If someone could point a complete noob in the right direction it would be very much appreciated.
 
GarikFirst
I got some permanent problems with Nurburgring GP, no matter how hard I try I got only 2:03:5xx, but it seems like I got to have ay least 2:00:xxx, any advices?
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Are you controller or wheel? And what assists are you using? Car will also make a difference.

I posted a lap video here yesterday 1:54.395 for lines and stuff ( from an old daily race ignore t2 and t4 track limits )
 
drummingcat
Are their any online races where I can actually be competitive and not trailing around depressing myself at how people got so fast? Are they speed rated? If someone could point a complete noob in the right direction it would be very much appreciated.
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The rooms in Sport Mode "Dailies" (races reset weekly) are matchmade so that you'll race with like-minded people (DR E/SR B race with other SR B racers, DR is Driver Rating, how "fast" you are, and SR is Sportsmanship Rating, how "clean" you are).

And then there is organized private racing leagues, found on the GTS Online and Racing Leagues section of this very subforum.
 
RZQSPEED
The rooms in Sport Mode "Dailies" (races reset weekly) are matchmade so that you'll race with like-minded people (DR E/SR B race with other SR B racers, DR is Driver Rating, how "fast" you are, and SR is Sportsmanship Rating, how "clean" you are).

And then there is organized private racing leagues, found on the GTS Online and Racing Leagues section of this very subforum.
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That's really helpful mate, thank you, I will take a look in there when I log on tonight.
 
drummingcat
If someone could point a complete noob in the right direction it would be very much appreciated.
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I am pre3tty new back too.

Remember you'll get faster the more miles you practice.

A good idea IMO is to do all the lap challenges - they will show you much about racing lines. And before those, do all the driving license challenges. IMO they teach you the basics.

When you race the computer yourself or real people, you will not have a fixed car setup. So you can setup the car yourself. Turn off most of the driver aids, as they actually limit speed. But most drivers have ABS set on "weak". Many people have Traction Control "On", but I think over "2" would slow you down too much. Remember if you spin when you apply too much throttle, your cortex will remember that, and in time throttle control and steering reactions will improve a heap and steering and throttle corrections and coordination will become automatic and hence you'll therefore get faster.

Setup the track "aids" to suit yourself. I don't use the blue dotted racing line aid, but many do, and its sure helpful when you start. I do use the "witches hats"(not sure if that is an Australian term) - but those orange markers on the side of the track. They show you where you should be placing the car. There are also blue blobs that you can select that show you the apexes of the corners, where you car needs to be to be on the games view of the racing line. Those are options that you setup yourself. With braking points, two orange posts close together indicate to start braking, although the top drivers brake much later. They can do so because they have heaps of tricks and skill, which comes with not only ability, but also training that part of the brain that learns mechanical experience, and also learning how the games physics engine works. And for many, using manual transmission makes one faster.

There are some U-tube guides on from top players who teach how to race the game. If someone could list the best ones here, that would help you, they are excellent ways to learn about being faster.
 
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I do like the ring gp, the point and squirt nature of it works well on a dpad.

Had a solid night, gained 2,000 dr points and had solid races, sr up to 99.

How much time are you guys gaining with the new model? I'm 2 tenths faster than last time we were here but I use tc so not sure I get the gains others do.
 
NevilleNobody
I do like the ring gp, the point and squirt nature of it works well on a dpad.

Had a solid night, gained 2,000 dr points and had solid races, sr up to 99.

How much time are you guys gaining with the new model? I'm 2 tenths faster than last time we were here but I use tc so not sure I get the gains others do.
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'New model' ?
 
Doglove
Ok, did not know that. Tbh, i'm not feeling the changes when i play. Is the tire model also changed?
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Probably, as I have heard people talking about things like getting the power down easier than before, and allowing twitchy cars like the R8 (META at Nurb GP alongside the RSR) and the Huracan more accessible to less experienced players...

EDIT: There's another answer up above!
 
I did the midnight run on NGP last night with the 4C. not the fastest creature out there but i figured it would be good at skittering from corner to corner. I set a pretty ordinary lap time, but felt it was about where I was at with this car. That put me P5/15 on a fully D/S grid. Was pretty pleased about that :dopey:.

Race starts and already T1 is a minefield. I got knocked around and eased off track a few times resulting in me falling back to P13. There just wasn't enough laps in the race to make a comeback and I finished P9 :(.

SR still on 99, DR dropped some more. Not sure by how much because I didn't take note of the total points after Big Willow. It was sitting in 2302.

Speaking of Big Willow, just did Race A tonight. I managed to beat last nights qualifying time by a bit, and was all set to beat that when as I was coming round the final corner.... we cut to the race :crazy:. I started P4/7 on a grid with a B/A on pole and the rest D/S. Was originally a 9 car lineup but two got hit by the reset bug :rolleyes:.

Race starts and it's a bit chaotic. I got hit a couple of times but generally things were ok. I have no problems during qualifying with T1 but for some reason I struggle during the race. I did a rally run once and came awfully close for the other laps. I dropped down to P6, had another couple of excursions imitating Cody Crocker, and yet seemed to be faster in a few places that meant I slowly started to reel the guys in front in. Two arias where I seem to gain a lot is the high speed section leading up to the final double corner, and the double corner itself. I just stick to the inside and drop to 3rd for the final part of the corner leading on to the start/finish strait :D. from previous races at Big Willow I leant that I gain some extra by taking the corner leading on to the high speed section in 2nd then as soon as you are in a position to hit the throttle, change up. At first it seems like you will bog the car down, but it picks itself up and I find I gain on the others 👍. I finished P3 with no penalties and blue SR .

SR maintained at 99. DR went up about 180. On to the midnight run at NGP... probably with the Viper.
 
RZQSPEED
Probably, as I have heard people talking about things like getting the power down easier than before, and allowing twitchy cars like the R8 (META at Nurb GP alongside the RSR) and the Huracan more accessible to less experienced players...



EDIT: There's another answer up above!
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NevilleNobody
More traction and more understeer, especially group 4 on the understeer.
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Ok, thanx Racers!
 
Melbourne Park
I am pre3tty new back too.

Remember you'll get faster the more miles you practice.

A good idea IMO is to do all the lap challenges - they will show you much about racing lines. And before those, do all the driving license challenges. IMO they teach you the basics.

When you race the computer yourself or real people, you will not have a fixed car setup. So you can setup the car yourself. Turn off most of the driver aids, as they actually limit speed. But most drivers have ABS set on "weak". Many people have Traction Control "On", but I think over "2" would slow you down too much. Remember if you spin when you apply too much throttle, your cortex will remember that, and in time throttle control and steering reactions will improve a heap and steering and throttle corrections and coordination will become automatic and hence you'll therefore get faster.

Setup the track "aids" to suit yourself. I don't use the blue dotted racing line aid, but many do, and its sure helpful when you start. I do use the "witches hats"(not sure if that is an Australian term) - but those orange markers on the side of the track. They show you where you should be placing the car. There are also blue blobs that you can select that show you the apexes of the corners, where you car needs to be to be on the games view of the racing line. Those are options that you setup yourself. With braking points, two orange posts close together indicate to start braking, although the top drivers brake much later. They can do so because they have heaps of tricks and skill, which comes with not only ability, but also training that part of the brain that learns mechanical experience, and also learning how the games physics engine works. And for many, using manual transmission makes one faster.

There are some U-tube guides on from top players who teach how to race the game. If someone could list the best ones here, that would help you, they are excellent ways to learn about being faster.
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Thanks mate, to be honest I haven't looked massively at the lap challenges, maybe I will take a look this evening. I have noticed the driver aids being a hindrance, I have been driving Group 3's and trying to get the power down out of slow corners is a right pain in the arse. which I assume now is down to the the TC, I initially thought it maybe turbo lag, but since I left foot brake I decided to keep the revs up mid-corner and it makes no difference, I would much rather a little wheelspin and be able to manage that on the throttle rather than just sticking my foot down and waiting for the car to go!

Ahhhh so much to play around with, so little time!!
 
@FreewingF16: Just remember, guys like me lapping at 2.01 are finding it just as hard to figure how the ones doing 1.58 are doing it.:sly:

@GarikFirst: Wathching vids helps, also allowing yourself a slower lap where you are studying the course, trying multiple cars to see what fits best, playing with things like brake balance and of course...practice. Last week I knocked 5 seconds off my qualifying time between Monday and Sunday just by learning the track, the car and getting comfortable with how far I could push. Another day and I'd nearly have caught @VolkswagenX :D

For my own part I'm a bit annoyed at myself. Late last year the two Nurb GP races we had I qualified 2.01.2 +/- a smidge. I thought I was getting faster with the G29 but last night having tried about 6 different cars I was still just behind my DS4 time. I reckon I've a sub 2 min in me when I click with the right car. The R8 was my fastest last night but I had to use traction control which I never usually do and didn't think I'd be consistent racing it. The M3 & Beetle were consistent but also half a second slower. Need to find a balance...stay on the track and get faster.
 
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