"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[TurboTacho]

Race B Grid P13, Race P6. Consolation prize for post-Nations race, particularly with my favourite GT Le Mans Test Car.
Recently I've been seeing ballerinas around the circuit, where do I sign up for one?

Jokes aside, I didn't had any practice time in that track, but still nailed it within few laps. Not a very good result, but at least it's something that I can have fun while being a little laid back on my driving.

 

[Stencedaddy]

Look at this piece of ****. penalty system should keep the car in a straight line while penalties are being served so salty assholes cant do this.

Spoiler: Language warning

 

[Tea_Leaves]

No racing but I ran some QLs on Maggiore with the Test Car and 911. I didn't like the Ford here when I often use it on other tracks which is a shame. Way too clunky navigating around the downhill corners and I managed a much worse time than I got in the RCZ.

The 911 is really smooth and I broke into the 1.58s with a 1.58:7 so I'll probably try racing it later. I think I could lower the time a little with some refinement but just breaking into 1.58 is fine for me.

 

[O604]

I just discovered that at DTG, doing decent at the hairpin vs. doing really well at the hairpin, can make a difference of about a second on the lap time. 👍

Really. What's your exit speed?

I'm not consistent at all on that turn. I'm stuck around 1:54.5.

And can't get under 2 min for Race B. Both times not good enough to race yet. Might not get to this week. Everyone else is too fast.

 

[Rexracer702]

I have a question I want to throw out there. Hopefully someone knows the answer. Does doing the warm up lap (or quarter lap) before the race affect the stick of the tires at all? I almost always do the warm up. One, because extra practice is always good, and it can also give you a better idea of what T1 will be like at the slower speeds from the start (at some tracks) and two, I can't type fast enough to do anything in chat in those 30 seconds, so why not.

@0604 Post a lap if you can. I'm sure people here could give some tips that might help. Sometimes little things, like gear selection, can make a huge difference.

 

[sturk0167]

Really. What's your exit speed?

I'm not consistent at all on that turn. I'm stuck around 1:54.5.

And can't get under 2 min for Race B. Both times not good enough to race yet. Might not get to this week. Everyone else is too fast.

I don't have any idea about the exit speed. What has worked best for me is to be completely finished with my braking before starting the turn, and briefly coasting on initial turn-in, because it rotates better. Someone else might have a faster way.

Using my controller, I'm at TCS 1, and BB +3. It's the only car I can remember driving that actually seems to stop shorter with rear brake bias.

 

[Conquerer]

Look at this piece of ****. penalty system should keep the car in a straight line while penalties are being served so salty assholes cant do this.

Spoiler: Language warning

Yeah wow that's just straight up scummy. Personally I think his first move is fine... a little late-ish but he has the right to cover the inside. But the 2nd move to hit you... yeah, that's straight up DSQ worthy. The best fix is to probably keep the penalty car ghosted for a few seconds after their penalty is served. But either way, he's a POS that thinks that's ok and everyone here can see that. I'd rather lose that race to you and be kicking myself for my penalty than be a POS like that.

Honestly though, PD is just so bad with the penalty system, ghosting and the like. I mentioned above to keep the penalty car ghosted, but perhaps it's not necessary under normal conditions. But when the game detects a car is swerving so rapidly on a straight section of the track it could ghost his car to avoid situations like that -- ESPECIALLY after serving a penalty with a car closely behind like that. This really should be so hard since it's using numbers and facts -- straight road, penalty served, slow car swerving with faster car very close behind. But sadly PD's system is waaaaay too trivial and garbage to handle anything like that and we all know it.

 

[Philtaylor17]

This is my 1'36.018 lap for Race C. Onboard and external. It's currently 3rd on the EMEA leaderboard and 4th on the world leaderboard.

Coming into the first part of T1 you can brake just at the end of the red and white curb on the inside, brake balance +2, getting on the power very early is possible here just because of the massive downforce at this speed ( )

Stay in 5th through the esses, dropping to 4th for the second to last one and leaving just enough room to stay flat through the very last one, then, stay flat through degner 1, and aim to carry momentum through degner 2, braking too late costs far more time than braking too early through here.

Down to first for the hairpin and then go to about 1/3 throttle to build some speed/ shift weight for more traction before progressively full throttle into 2nd and third, this takes some practice, too gradual and you lose time, too fast and you get wheelspin.

Switch brake balance to +4 for spoon because you need to brake while turning to an extent, you can carry lots of speed into and through spoon which helps put the power down with minimal oversteer and carry more speed up the hill.

Last chicane is very tricky with all the downforce virtually gone, so switch back to brake balance +2 and make sure to be gentle and smooth on the power and take the shortest route to the line.

Hope this helps if anyone is trying to drop some time off their qualifying 👍

 

[BradleyLove]

This is my 1'36.018 lap for Race C. Onboard and external. It's currently 3rd on the EMEA leaderboard and 4th on the world leaderboard.

Coming into the first part of T1 you can brake just at the end of the red and white curb on the inside, brake balance +2, getting on the power very early is possible here just because of the massive downforce at this speed ( )

Stay in 5th through the esses, dropping to 4th for the second to last one and leaving just enough room to stay flat through the very last one, then, stay flat through degner 1, and aim to carry momentum through degner 2, braking too late costs far more time than braking too early through here.

Down to first for the hairpin and then go to about 1/3 throttle to build some speed/ shift weight for more traction before progressively full throttle into 2nd and third, this takes some practice, too gradual and you lose time, too fast and you get wheelspin.

Switch brake balance to +4 for spoon because you need to brake while turning to an extent, you can carry lots of speed into and through spoon which helps put the power down with minimal oversteer and carry more speed up the hill.

Last chicane is very tricky with all the downforce virtually gone, so switch back to brake balance +2 and make sure to be gentle and smooth on the power and take the shortest route to the line.

Hope this helps if anyone is trying to drop some time off their qualifying 👍

Thanks for sharing, really informative.

Out of curiosity, what wheel are you using?

 

[Philtaylor17]

Thanks for sharing, really informative.

Out of curiosity, what wheel are you using?

Thanks man, standard Logitech G29 with an adjustable stand, I really want to upgrade the rig tbh but it's solid enough for now.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

This is my 1'36.018 lap for Race C. Onboard and external. It's currently 3rd on the EMEA leaderboard and 4th on the world leaderboard.

Coming into the first part of T1 you can brake just at the end of the red and white curb on the inside, brake balance +2, getting on the power very early is possible here just because of the massive downforce at this speed ( )

Stay in 5th through the esses, dropping to 4th for the second to last one and leaving just enough room to stay flat through the very last one, then, stay flat through degner 1, and aim to carry momentum through degner 2, braking too late costs far more time than braking too early through here.

Down to first for the hairpin and then go to about 1/3 throttle to build some speed/ shift weight for more traction before progressively full throttle into 2nd and third, this takes some practice, too gradual and you lose time, too fast and you get wheelspin.

Switch brake balance to +4 for spoon because you need to brake while turning to an extent, you can carry lots of speed into and through spoon which helps put the power down with minimal oversteer and carry more speed up the hill.

Last chicane is very tricky with all the downforce virtually gone, so switch back to brake balance +2 and make sure to be gentle and smooth on the power and take the shortest route to the line.

Hope this helps if anyone is trying to drop some time off their qualifying 👍

Great lap. Verry happy to see it's all on track! Suzuka gets that right.

One thing I'm wondering after watching your lap. I can't get the steering dot to go that far over at speed on a controller. Is that a difference between wheel and controller or does TCS limit my steering input or does it have to do with sensitivity settings (I'm on default) The steering dot will move further over when I slow down and it will go all the way to the edge in the hairpin, yet at higher speeds it seems limited to 70% or 80% while I have the left stick pressed as far over as possible.

 

[Philtaylor17]

Great lap. Verry happy to see it's all on track! Suzuka gets that right.

One thing I'm wondering after watching your lap. I can't get the steering dot to go that far over at speed on a controller. Is that a difference between wheel and controller or does TCS limit my steering input or does it have to do with sensitivity settings (I'm on default) The steering dot will move further over when I slow down and it will go all the way to the edge in the hairpin, yet at higher speeds it seems limited to 70% or 80% while I have the left stick pressed as far over as possible.

Thanks man another reason to the long list why suzuka is awesome

I honestly wouldn't know sorry @Sven Jurgens, I've never tried a controller with GT Sport, I would imagine they limit the steering input at speed to stop the tyres scrubbing and picking up understeer, it would be crazy hard to find the limit of the front tyres with an an analog stick.

 

[GT5Power]

@Stencedaddy that is a very nasty move indeed. And that lunge into the final chicane was very sketchy too.

On that topic, this GIF is from my win at N24 on Friday... I honestly thought my chances were gone at that point but he turned into a missile later and allowed me to pressure the leader once again.


Penalty system came through this time!

 

[O604]

I don't have any idea about the exit speed. What has worked best for me is to be completely finished with my braking before starting the turn, and briefly coasting on initial turn-in, because it rotates better. Someone else might have a faster way.

Using my controller, I'm at TCS 1, and BB +3. It's the only car I can remember driving that actually seems to stop shorter with rear brake bias.

Fun fact. Which I didn't know but most probably do.

Passo Corto is Italian for Short Wheel Base. The base is 2,400 mm (approx. 94.5 inches). Shorter than the LWB which is 2600mm ( approx 102.3 inches).

For comparison the 458 Italia 2,650 mm.

I just thought that was neat.

 

[Stencedaddy]

@Stencedaddy that is a very nasty move indeed. And that lunge into the final chicane was very sketchy too.

if i didnt wait to turn in on the chicane he would have blasted me off track but id rather come 2nd than potentially lose more spots to the crash.

 

[Rexracer702]

This is my 1'36.018 lap for Race C. Onboard and external. It's currently 3rd on the EMEA leaderboard and 4th on the world leaderboard.

Coming into the first part of T1 you can brake just at the end of the red and white curb on the inside, brake balance +2, getting on the power very early is possible here just because of the massive downforce at this speed ( )

Stay in 5th through the esses, dropping to 4th for the second to last one and leaving just enough room to stay flat through the very last one, then, stay flat through degner 1, and aim to carry momentum through degner 2, braking too late costs far more time than braking too early through here.

Down to first for the hairpin and then go to about 1/3 throttle to build some speed/ shift weight for more traction before progressively full throttle into 2nd and third, this takes some practice, too gradual and you lose time, too fast and you get wheelspin.

Switch brake balance to +4 for spoon because you need to brake while turning to an extent, you can carry lots of speed into and through spoon which helps put the power down with minimal oversteer and carry more speed up the hill.

Last chicane is very tricky with all the downforce virtually gone, so switch back to brake balance +2 and make sure to be gentle and smooth on the power and take the shortest route to the line.

Hope this helps if anyone is trying to drop some time off their qualifying 👍

Great lap. I'll be looking at it when I get home. I won't be playing with brake balance between corners because I've found that I'm much faster leaving it set than I am when I play with it and go off track.

I do have a question on Spoon. I've been holding 4th through there because I seem to be more consistant (usually) and get a better drive when I do...easier to carry the right speed. You think I'm loosing time doing that?

 

[Philtaylor17]

Great lap. I'll be looking at it when I get home. I won't be playing with brake balance between corners because I've found that I'm much faster leaving it set than I am when I play with it and go off track.

I do have a question on Spoon. I've been holding 4th through there because I seem to be more consistant (usually) and get a better drive when I do...easier to carry the right speed. You think I'm loosing time doing that?

I don't think I tried holding 4th through there tbh, so it's difficult to say really... It's kind of on the edge of 3rd so it should be fine, I just like the engine braking through the first part of spoon so drop down.

 

[O604]

@0604 Post a lap if you can. I'm sure people here could give some tips that might help. Sometimes little things, like gear selection, can make a huge difference.

Thanks. Too lazy to upload a video. Tried a race instead.

Got QT down a bit to 1:54.1. Started 4th. Finished 5th. + 200 DR. Just edged out a car at the end with lower DR. had I finished 6th I would have lost DR. Close call.

Got another orange warning again for contact when a car passed. But all blue SR grid at the end.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I did 4 Tokyo races today as DR.B, penalties are working better now. Since I start at the back I mostly encounter B/S drivers and now when anyone punts me off they do get a penalty for it, get slowed down and I don't have to see them again.

People do seem to drive a bit more carefully today, however it's still best to let everyone go ahead at the start. Not worth risking a penalty to get in the middle of the back field, simply pick up positions from all the cars that either get bumped off or drive themselves off. Lap 1 is still pretty chaotic.

There seem to be a lot less South Americans in the race today, only 2 Brazilians, the rest all Americans and Canadians. There are still a lot of quitters, last race had 7 exit the race before the end.

I'm getting better at not braking for Degner 1, but I still have zero consistency through there. I would like to blame it on my display lag, yet that's constant and you should be able to compensate for that. I guess my brain has some frame pacing issues. And of course when I do nail it, I come in too hot for the second part.

I wanted to do a 5th race, getting in my groove, disconnected during matchmaking, dinner time it is.

 

[sturk0167]

I did 4 Tokyo races today as DR.B, penalties are working better now. Since I start at the back I mostly encounter B/S drivers and now when anyone punts me off they do get a penalty for it, get slowed down and I don't have to see them again.

People do seem to drive a bit more carefully today, however it's still best to let everyone go ahead at the start. Not worth risking a penalty to get in the middle of the back field, simply pick up positions from all the cars that either get bumped off or drive themselves off. Lap 1 is still pretty chaotic.

There seem to be a lot less South Americans in the race today, only 2 Brazilians, the rest all Americans and Canadians. There are still a lot of quitters, last race had 7 exit the race before the end.

I'm getting better at not braking for Degner 1, but I still have zero consistency through there. I would like to blame it on my display lag, yet that's constant and you should be able to compensate for that. I guess my brain has some frame pacing issues. And of course when I do nail it, I come in too hot for the second part.

I wanted to do a 5th race, getting in my groove, disconnected during matchmaking, dinner time it is.

Kudos to you and the others who are giving it a try. I don't have enough confidence in my abilities to even buy one of those cars. Probably too fast for me.

 

[Rexracer702]

Did about 15 laps at Suzuka. I'm definitely off tonight. Struggled to get out of the 42's, inched my way through the 41's then finaly did a 40.5 on lap 11. It got worse after that. My optimal was a 39.4. 3 minutes to go so I entered a race. My high 39 put me 3rd on the grid. 2nd was a second faster than me, and first a second clear of him. Everyone back to 11th or 12th was in the 40's. Yay! Spun in second, hit third, got tagged and around I went. I may have to start with TCS and figure out where I can shut it off without crashing. Ended up in 15th, drove like crap and kept making mistakes, but managed 6th by the time I pitted. Made a pass on fresh tires and ran in 5th for a few laps, then tire wear, more mistakes, ended up loosing 2 spots and finished 7th. I think as the tires wear, the time it takes dirty tires to clean off increases. I hit the grass after almost spinning in T2 on lap 11 and it was like driving on ice until Spoon. I could tell how bad I was driving by my tire wear. Front left was about 3/4 red, and the right wasn't far behind. Even the rears were worn more than usual.

Maybe tomorrow will be better. I guess the good side is, I didn't get bothered by all the a$$holes because I was too busy trying not to be one!

 

[Vegard]

Kudos to you and the others who are giving it a try. I don't have enough confidence in my abilities to even buy one of those cars. Probably too fast for me.

It's a blast to drive and it isn't very difficult to handle. Driving it is addictive.
You should buy one and try it, even if you don't plan on racing it.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

It's a blast to drive and it isn't very difficult to handle. Driving it is addictive.
You should buy one and try it, even if you don't plan on racing it.

I was expecting it to be horrible like the Mercedes but it's great to drive. It kind of feels like a Super GT car, slight understeer but once you have confidence you can push it to the limit and it will never punish you. I would say something about how much I like party mode but I've already posted that a few hundred times.

 

[Pigems]

I was expecting it to be horrible like the Mercedes but it's great to drive. It kind of feels like a Super GT car, slight understeer but once you have confidence you can push it to the limit and it will never punish you. I would say something about how much I like party mode but I've already posted that a few hundred times.

This is probably a dumb question, but what’s party mode?

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

This is probably a dumb question, but what’s party mode?

The game calls it the overtake button but it's just as fun for the FL.

 

[absbrain]

Been trying to race sf19 ( and failing ) but it's fun, so guess it's ok.
My experience is that tc induces understeer and with tc on its much harder to go flat in degner 1 and the sharp left after degner 2 is also hard.
But when the tires go dead later in the race or of you have an excursion off road, car is very very difficult to drive with or without tc...

 

[Kwame]

This is probably a dumb question, but what’s party mode?

Lewis Hamilton sorta coined the term. Before the start of last season during some sponsor event, he mentioned party mode. This is the extra boost that is available to the Mercedes power unit for qualifying. Others could be with them through practice, Q1 and Q2 but come Q3, all of a sudden party mode is engaged and they find the tenths!
Certainly sound cooler to say than "push to pass" but that is what it is.

 

[seadog777]

Kudos to you and the others who are giving it a try. I don't have enough confidence in my abilities to even buy one of those cars. Probably too fast for me.

I'm still trying to get used to the thing and struggling to get results in the Campaign races! It needs a different style of driving.... places where I brake in every other car, often you don't need to in this!! The AI knows all about it..... I'm still learning

 

[rosuazld]

Race C. Got my Q-time down to 1'40"5xx.

Started 7th got punted on T2 to P13. Got back to P8 after pitting at lap 6 (no real overtaking, just ppl going off the track).
Punted at lap 8 in the hairpin down to P11, punted again at the spoon, down to P15. My first rage quit.

Trying to get my Q-time into the 1'39's

Edit: Q-time down to 1'40"3xx. Calling it a night

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Been trying to race sf19 ( and failing ) but it's fun, so guess it's ok.
My experience is that tc induces understeer and with tc on its much harder to go flat in degner 1 and the sharp left after degner 2 is also hard.
But when the tires go dead later in the race or of you have an excursion off road, car is very very difficult to drive with or without tc...

That might explain why Degner is so difficult and why the steering dot won't move over fully. I need to give it a try without TC (normally have it on 2) I'll probably be a hazard without TC my fingers aren't that precise anymore. An yep, in lap 6 the tire wear definitely makes a difference and I have to lift off pretty early to make Degner 1 at all. One early punt does a real number on the tires as well as going wide once at Degner.