"Daily" Race Discussion [Archive]

[Voodoovaj]

the limits seem fine to me. tight if anything which is good. when i just barely put all 4 wheels on the curb i get .5 second penalty or more as to be expected.

also my gt didnt connect when i started it. they definitely broke something.

If you watch some of the replays you see that track limits are a little hit and miss, especially corner 1. Some of those replays show the drivers going SUPER wide of one, more than a car width between them and the track, but if I get 4 wheels of track, 0.5 second penalty. This happens in a few places. I don't know if it's a lucky bug or there's some sort of special zone out there where you get no penalty.

I just stay within the visible confines.

 

[sturk0167]

So with the slipstream on strong in race A, is it winnable from the back if you can draft your way through cleanly?

Haven't tried the race yet, but I would say definitely yes. I intend to do it multiple times. Might give it a go tonight, if I get out of work at a reasonable time.

 

[DelboyD]

Cool, thanks. It would most definitely take a LOT of luck considering it’s a Tokyo track.

But the draft is strong enough to make up the time vs length of race?

Yes, I didn’t think I’d win from 4th at the last corner as the first two cars were further ahead than the car in 3rd. I still caught them easily and was over a cars length ahead at the line.

I had a good exit from the final corner, which obviously helped.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Cool, thanks. It would most definitely take a LOT of luck considering it’s a Tokyo track.

But the draft is strong enough to make up the time vs length of race?

Yes, easily. It's a standing start. If you survive T1, or even if you don't (see my video) you can easily get ahead and win with drafting.

 

[sturk0167]

But at least we will know who to avoid if we see him in a future race, rather then finding out the hard way after he knocks us off.

Plus, @sturk0167 is kind of like our community hit man now it seems.

That's kinda what I was getting at.

 

[sdi_03]

Well, not the video I wanted to post, but got my race c qualy to 1:12.065. Not happy with it, but best what I can do today.
Optimum was 1:11.5xx so I have more speed, just cant put the sectors in same lap.

 

[Pigems]

Yes, I didn’t think I’d win from 4th at the last corner as the first two cars were further ahead than the car in 3rd. I still caught them easily and was over a cars length ahead at the line.

I had a good exit from the final corner, which obviously helped.

Yes, easily. It's a standing start. If you survive T1, or even if you don't (see my video) you can easily get ahead and win with drafting.

Awesome, thanks for the info guys.

That's kinda what I was getting at.

That’s I figured.

 

[stpatty]

PSA: The braking point for T1 at the Red Bull Ring is the 100 board. Thank you for listening.

 

[QC YALUM]

Just look at pole in Americas ? He go like 30ft off track limit in 1rst corner a shame PD

 

[CurbHog]

Anyone in the US having problems connecting to the game ? It just sits on the red opening screen.
I got in after the update but kept loosing the server connection.

Explanation:

https://www.gran-turismo.com/us/gtsport/news/00_1050923.html

 

[watto79]

Update on the server issues:

Current interruptions occurring in the Online Service
We have discovered an issue where players are becoming disconnected from the network while playing Gran Turismo Sport.

Our teams are now investigating the problem and are working on a solution.

We ask for your patience while we correct this issue and we apologize for the inconvenience.


https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gtsport/news/00_1050923.html

 

[QC YALUM]

Anyone in the US having problems connecting to the game ? It just sits on the red opening screen.
I got in after the update but kept loosing the server connection.

down left of menu i can read server having some problem and its yellow instead of green

 

[Keith2324]

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[ASH32]

@sdi_03 Use 4th gear at Paddock, Westfield and Sheene, once you get the hang of carrying speed through the corners it's faster and easier to drive like this too so should help with consistency. Also use 3rd at Druids for the same reason but this is the hardest one to get speed up quickly so it doesn't bog down.

Also is it just me who uses the "hood" cam and now finds this car taking up the entire screen (which is unusual) and thus having issues with putting wheels on the grass because they are in the "wrong" place. The front seems to be quite the way up the road too and I've accidently bumped the back of a few cars because of it. For me it's really no surprise that there's a lot of contact in this race.

 

[Tassie_tiger]

Nice work PD. 👍
I've been too scared to actually enter a race.

Speaking of which, I've been limiting myself to Race B qualy time trials, trying a few cars.
And for my money, it's the Mustang at BB -2.
Got it down to a 28.5, which for my ability is a decent time comparing it with the leaderboards.

Recommend giving it a go. 👍

 

[sdi_03]

@sdi_03 Use 4th gear at Paddock, Westfield and Sheene, once you get the hang of carrying speed through the corners it's faster and easier to drive like this too so should help with consistency. Also use 3rd at Druids for the same reason but this is the hardest one to get speed up quickly so it doesn't bog down.

Also is it just me who uses the "hood" cam and now finds this car taking up the entire screen (which is unusual) and thus having issues with putting wheels on the grass because they are in the "wrong" place. The front seems to be quite the way up the road too and I've accidently bumped the back of a few cars because of it. For me it's really no surprise that there's a lot of contact in this race.

Thanks for the tips Will try those tomorrow.
I use bumber cam, with all cars, hood cam in this car is really odd, its too far in front IMO.
(need to check the map, no idea of the corner names )

 

[TTM]

So race c was mixed.
First two races were absolute trainwrecks unsurprisingly considering the idiots that play this game can’t even drive the sf19, let alone an ‘86 spec fake f1 car.
You know, the open wheel car that practically drives itself because it’s not hard to drive.
But I did squeeze one win in my make believe Williams FW11, one of my favourite f1 cars of all time and one of the only Williams cars I care about.
Not even remotely interested in the other dailies.

 

[tariklehaine]

Don’t know if it has been posted in this thread already but did they reset the Qtimes? I did some runs on Red Bull Ring yesterday and it showed in the GTS companion app but it shows 00:00:000 now...

 

[Gersicer]

I know there is a thread for that subject but I just received the gteye spring upgrade for the brake pedal. Installed it right away and jumped into qualifying for race C. Mind you ....it is REALLY not the ideal combo to test a new brake pedal !! but .... I can see already that braking is more consistent and, after a few laps ( and a few moments going off track !) I was doing same time as my Q from this morning, which has been erased by the way, so with a little practise it's gonna get better for sure.

I don't know yet if I'm going to remove or not the rubber piece from which I cut a few mils off but I can see improvement for sure in the near future ! 👍

 

[Sven Jurgens]

How come my qualy time did not get erased
Jumping into another race C attempt, starting 11th of 17, aka rip.

It lasted until T3, 11th to 17th, to 4th. I don't mind driving from the back, but it's much nicer from the start instead of getting punted off.

 

[gthelmi2398]

So with the slipstream on strong in race A, is it winnable from the back if you can draft your way through cleanly?

Short story, in Race it is a big amount of good driving for getting a good qualifying time. I drove after a long try and fail session a 3:00,703. Mostly, I'll start on first position.

Yeah, Pole Position, but it is a big disadvantage, because after the start in front everybody behind you is in the slipstream...

The second point is, in T1 you can not choose the perfect racing line, because everybody is braking another way. So I do this, after starting in front on P1 I'll take the lead and wait for to the moment some guys overtake me. So I have enough space behind and in front of my car for choosing the perfect line in T1 while braking. In the normal case, the other drivers fail in the first corner and I go on the High Speed Part on posotion 4 or 5.

My strategy is, that I will wait and watch in the inner mirror for seeing what's going behind me and brake in chicane ob the mid of the track. You know the chicane, because most people fail and got a penalty.

So in the end of the first lap, I will go to overtake the people on the straight early, because so they can overtake me again and I can choose my perfect line in T1.
Sometimes in the second lap I drive with 3 or 4 drivers for the victory, but around 90% of all races it is a head to head.
So I will wait for the straight again and then overtake for the lead.

I drive with two other german guys in a party and we challenge each other. Normally these two guys want to improve their time. Well, I will say, in this crazy and funny RACE A: You do not need a good qualifying time for esrning a victory. If your 6 seconds behind the leader, no problem, the chance for winning is higher than in any other Race I had before.
So hopefully, you @Pigems will have much fun

 

[Gregi]

I don't understand how DR D drivers manage to get 3:00 trial times on Race A?! I mean, I had a fastest lap in race with 3:02 being dragged around the circuit by slipstream... how you get down to 3:00 driving solo, beats me... Anything to do with ABS, Breaking ratio? I can't get below 3:07

 

[Stencedaddy]

ok. I need EVERYBODY to watch this video.

 

[GT5Power]

Some remarks on race C...

• The car wants you dead and it will remind you of this at every opportunity. Wheelspin up to 210 km/h is scary TCS slows you down, so that's a no go. CSA I found to be an absolute necessity, even though I'm working on abandoning it in GT cars.
• I find it interesting how switching to GP2 Engine fuel map 2-3 actually has merit over short shifting in this race. My experience is that low RPM power is just too little to make short shifting work. I accidentally short shifted into 4th at 180 km/h coming out of the penultimate corner once and lost 3 tenths
• You can tell the difference when you switch between fuel maps, but it's not as pronounced as it is in other cars. You also can't really tell which fuel map people are running unless they're doing extreme fuel saving. In my last race, I ran almost the entirety of the first stint on FM3 and in another race I was able to get within 1.2s of my Q time running FM2.
• I've seen a variety of strategies, mostly one-stops but also a couple of people who no-stopped. I can only assume they ran FM6 all the way. For me, stopping on lap 7 is the best strategy. If the undercut works (meaning you don't get stuck in traffic or mess up) you're instantly at a huge advantage.
• That's because of dirty air. It's really bad in the F1500T. It saved me multiple times in one race while defending the lead. If you get into slipstream range of the car in front, the downforce loss in corners becomes apparent and you'll probably feel like you can't do anything. Understeering out of the track is even worse when there's no runoff area Track position is therefore very important and that's why I think the lap 7 undercut is superior to pitting on lap 8.
• Gears: I take corners in either 3rd or 4th and never shift below 3rd, not even through turn 2.
• Overall, it's a pretty fun race! The car is a handful, but once you get used to it and the track it's quite enjoyable, albeit tiring

 

[gthelmi2398]

how you get down to 3:00 driving solo, beats me... Anything to do with ABS, Breaking ratio? I can't get below 3:07

1) No Automatic, drive manual
2) TKS on 0
3) Breaking Balance on 0
4) First corner driving in 3rd gear, minimum is around 60, but keep on full throttle.
5) accelerate and on 120 km/h shift in 4th gear, at 150 km/h shift in 5th gear
6) Just brake in the hairpin and in the two lefthanders at the end (but try not brake much, because the uphill makes much
7) the two lefthanders with 4th gear over 100 km/h.
8) drive the first lap, if you don't make any mistake in the last turn you will always have a faster second lap.

I have to laugh, I'm sorry, because I wonder how people drive a 2:58,XXX because I can't reach my time anymore...

ok. I need EVERYBODY to watch this video.

Spoiler: Language warning

It was alright up to the second last corner.... I feel with you.

 

[sturk0167]

ok. I need EVERYBODY to watch this video.

Spoiler: Language warning

I was expecting you to launch him into next week, on that final turn.

 

[GTP_TO Blue]

ok. I need EVERYBODY to watch this video.

Spoiler: Language warning

Until PD implement a ruling for that type of behaviour, it will continue. And there is no place for it at all. Up until that point, it was a pretty good final lap between you two.

The things people do just to finish a potential 4th!!!!

 

[breeminator]

Braking is critical (so is brake balance obviously). So is the car, of course. I use the R8 with brake balance set to +1

I use the driving cones. it's a constant reference and it even helps to describe where you should brake, so turn them on for this advice.

The brake point for turn 1 is the white line immediately after the double cones. When your car gets tot he white line, brake fully and aim for that apex. try not to go over the little hump on the inside or it will upset the car. I use second gear for this, but some cars are ok in third.

The brake point for turn 2 is similarly the white line after the cones, but brake when it's close, before your car gets there. You need to shift all the way down to first and again, go for that apex, try to carry some speed around the turn and pour on a little power until you are pointed straight, then giv'r.

Turn 3 follows suit. Look for the line after the cones and start braking as soon as it comes into view (but after the cones), Go down to second and follow the same instructions as turn 2.

Turn 4 and 5 are obvious.

Turn 6 and 7 is more difficult than it appears. This is the chicane where the small track and big track meet. You need to be tight to 6 and carry a lot of speed. Get on the gas early, but you can't just stab the throttle.


The top times are often set by just BARELY missing penalties for running off the track. I've watched the replays, and to be honest, when I try to run those lines, I get penalties. So, take the top times with a grain of salt. I personally think that mid 1:28's is the best that can be done without testing the track limits.

Hope that helps.

Thanks for all the tips. I focused on avoiding the bits of the kerbs that excessively disrupt the car, and consistently hitting the latest possible braking points, and reduced my QT by 0.7 seconds. In one race I got into the lead and was able to drive every lap close to my previous QT, while obviously playing it a little safe, and won that race. A 2nd and a 5th in two other races, and I've added 2600 points to my DR today, almost up to the heady heights of B rating. It's interesting another poster says 1:30.4 is competitive at a high B rating level - that's my QT now and I only seem to be a little above average for my high C rating, started 8th on the grid for that 5th place.

I have to say, my adrenal glands can't take too much of that in one go!

 

[TTM]

So I forgot to mention in my post, I got punted into the pit entry wall from behind, I get the penalty but the punter doesn’t?
Polyphony got Bethesda to make the penalty system for them clearly.

 

[Pigems]

Shaved a little more off the Copen.